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== Overview ==

An access list controls who has access to a shared resource. The what part is handled by [[Bookmark#Share|shared folders]] for bookmarks and [[Structure permissions|profile]]s for [[Upwell structures]].

An access list controls who has access to a shared resource. The what part is handled by [[Bookmark#Share|shared folders]] for bookmarks and [[Structure permissions|profile]]s for [[Upwell structures]]. An Access List has one or more members who are assigned one of the roles.

~~[[File:~~Access ~~Lists window.png|thumb|The Access Lists window.]]~~

~~Access Lists~~ are ~~managed through~~ the ~~Access List window~~. ~~The Access Lists window can be opened~~

* using the [[Neocom]] menu: Social > Access Lists

* using the Neocom menu: ''corporation path?''

* using the Neocom short-cut icon: [[File:Accessgroups.png|22px]]Access Lists <ref group=Note>The short-cut area is player configurable so the icon may or may not be there</ref>

* using a [[Keyboard controls|hot-key]] (There is no default)

=== Role ===

Members of an access list have one of the following roles:

* Admin - Can edit and delete the list. Can add and remove members. Can assign all roles.

** {{Co|yellow|Caution:}} A admin can demote, block and remove themself.

** {{Co|yellow|Caution:}} An admin can demote, block and remove themself.

* Manager - Can add members. Can remove members with the Member or Blocked role. Can assign the Member and Blocked role, but not to Admins or Managers.

** {{Co|yellow|Caution:}} A manager can block and remove themself.

** {{Co|yellow|Caution:}} A manager can demote, block and remove themself.

* Member - Gains the permissions that are granted to the access list. Can not see the list in their Access List window and thus can not see who it's members are.

* Blocked - Is effectively, for the purpose of shared bookmark folders or profiles "removed" from the list. It is used to exclude an entity ~~which~~ is added by a "higher" entity.

* Blocked - Is effectively, for the purpose of shared bookmark folders or profiles "removed" from the list. It is used to exclude an entity that is added by a "higher" entity.

The Admin and Manager roles ~~are~~ only ~~for~~ the access list itself. For the permissions set on shared folders or in profiles, they count as having the Member role. However, as you need the Admin or Manager role to "see" the access list only admins and managers can assign access lists to shared folders or profiles provided that they have the permission/corporation role to do so.

The Admin and Manager roles apply only to the access list itself. For the permissions set on shared folders or in profiles, they count as having the Member role. However, as you need the Admin or Manager role to "see" the access list only admins and managers can assign access lists to shared folders or profiles provided that they have the permission/corporation-role to do so.

[[File:Access Lists window.png|thumb|The Access Lists window.]]

=== Member ===

Members of an access list can be:

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* Capsuleers

{{Note box|

25 August 2024: Despite EVE support saying that it is not possible to add NPC-Corporations to an access list it did work.

25 August 2024: Despite [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/208289645-Access-Lists EVE support] saying that it is not possible to add NPC-Corporations to an access list it did work.

}}

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=== Built-in ===

There is one built-in access list with one (Admin) member, the corporation the capsuleer is part of. It is named for the corporation (e.g. the one for the NPC corporation Republic University is named Republic University.) and can not be modified. So while the corporation has the Admin role it effectively only makes the list visible and usable for all members of the corporation.

There is one built-in access list with one (Admin) member, the corporation the capsuleer is part of. It is named for the corporation (e.g. the one for the NPC corporation Republic University is named Republic University.) and can not be modified. So while the corporation has the Admin role (In contradiction with the rule that corporations can not be Admin or Manager) it effectively only makes the list visible and usable for all members of the corporation.

=== Access Lists window ===

Access Lists are managed through the Access List window. The Access Lists window can be opened

* using the [[Neocom]] menu: Social > Access Lists

* using the Neocom menu: ''corporation path?''

* using the Neocom short-cut icon: [[File:Accessgroups.png|22px]]Access Lists <ref group=Note>The short-cut area is player configurable so the icon may or may not be there</ref>

* using a [[Keyboard controls|hot-key]] (There is no default)

== Create ==

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Members can be added in several ways.

* Clicking the {{Button|+ Add Members}} button. Uses the Add Member window. Has an {{Button|Add Member}} button activated when an entity is selected. Does only ~~finds~~ eligible entities.

* Clicking the {{Button|+ Add Members}} button.

* Using the Add Members option accessed by right-clicking the Access List name or by clicking the hamburger in the top right. Uses the Contacts window. By default finds every type but can be configured to only search characters or corporations etc.

** Uses the Add Member window.

*** Has an {{Button|Add Member}} button activated when an entity is selected.

*** Does only find eligible entities.

* Using the Add Members option accessed by right-clicking the Access List name or by clicking the hamburger in the top right.

** Uses the Contacts window.

*** By default finds every type but can be configured to only search characters or corporations etc.

* Dragging from a chat channel or chat channel member list.

* Dragging from the Guests list in a station

* Dragging the portrait/icon from an info window

* Dragging from an Access List(copy). Warning: This also copies the role.

==== Everyone ====

Everyone can be added in one way ~~only~~, clicking on the globe icon on the bottom right of the member list.

Everyone can only be added in one way, clicking on the globe icon on the bottom right of the member list.

=== Change role ===

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*** Make Admin

*** Make Manager

*** Strangely enough, there is no option Make Member this is done by the options Remove Admin Role and Remove Manager Role

*** Strangely enough, there is no option Make Member this is done by the options Remove Admin Role and Remove Manager Role.

** Corporations and alliances can not be blocked or unblocked via the menu they must be dragged to the role icon bar.

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== Old stuff ==

~~To edit access list select it on the left side panel.~~

~~You can add pilots, corporations, or alliances by dragging them to the list. Alternatively you can use the "+ Add members" button to add new members from search results.~~

~~There is also a special "Add everyone" button on bottom right corner. Having this "everyone" member is exactly what it says. It effectively adds everyone to the list.~~

Entries in the list are of four different kinds: admin, manager, member, and blocked. Admins can change every aspect of the list. Managers are able to see the list in their ACL window and thus can see the entries. Further, they can add member and blocked entries. Members gain the access rights which are granted to an ACL but cannot explicitly see if they are part of an ACL. Blocked entries explicitly don't get access which is useful to create exceptions to the everyone entry but can also be used to create exceptions when you added corporations or alliances. The everyone entry can only have the member status.

You can share lists through drag and drop into chat channels or [[EVE Mail]]. This way you can use ACLs created by others. Such links provide you with basic information about the ACL: its name, description, and all its admins but not managers.

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 == Overview ==
-An access list controls who has access to a shared resource. The what part is handled by [[Bookmark#Share|shared folders]] for bookmarks and [[Structure permissions|profile]]s<!-- link for now, might need a separate article for profiles? --> for [[Upwell structures]].
+An access list controls who has access to a shared resource. The what part is handled by [[Bookmark#Share|shared folders]] for bookmarks and [[Structure permissions|profile]]s<!-- link for now, might need a separate article for profiles? --> for [[Upwell structures]]. An Access List has one or more members who are assigned one of the roles.
-[[File:Access Lists window.png|thumb|The Access Lists window.]]
-Access Lists are managed through the Access List window. The Access Lists window can be opened
-* using the [[Neocom]] menu: Social > Access Lists
-* using the Neocom menu: ''corporation path?''
-* using the Neocom short-cut icon: [[File:Accessgroups.png|22px]]Access Lists <ref group=Note>The short-cut area is player configurable so the icon may or may not be there</ref>
-* using a [[Keyboard controls|hot-key]] (There is no default)
 === Role ===
 Members of an access list have one of the following roles:
 * Admin - Can edit and delete the list. Can add and remove members. Can assign all roles.
-** {{Co|yellow|Caution:}} A admin <em>can</em> demote, block and remove themself.
+** {{Co|yellow|Caution:}} An admin <em>can</em> demote, block and remove themself.
 * Manager - Can add members. Can remove members with the Member or Blocked role. Can assign the Member and Blocked role, but not to Admins or Managers.
-** {{Co|yellow|Caution:}} A manager <em>can</em> block and remove themself.
+** {{Co|yellow|Caution:}} A manager <em>can</em> demote, block and remove themself.
 * Member - Gains the permissions that are granted to the access list. Can not see the list in their Access List window and thus can not see who it's members are.
-* Blocked - Is effectively, for the purpose of shared bookmark folders or profiles "removed" from the list. It is used to exclude an entity which is added by a "higher" entity.
+* Blocked - Is effectively, for the purpose of shared bookmark folders or profiles "removed" from the list. It is used to exclude an entity that is added by a "higher" entity.
-The Admin and Manager roles are only for the access list itself. For the permissions set on shared folders or in profiles, they count as having the Member role. However, as you need the Admin or Manager role to "see" the access list only admins and managers can assign access lists to shared folders or profiles provided that they have  the permission/corporation role to do so.
+The Admin and Manager roles apply only to the access list itself. For the permissions set on shared folders or in profiles, they count as having the Member role. However, as you need the Admin or Manager role to "see" the access list only admins and managers can assign access lists to shared folders or profiles provided that they have the permission/corporation-role to do so.
+[[File:Access Lists window.png|thumb|The Access Lists window.]]
 === Member ===
 Members of an access list can be:
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 * Capsuleers
 {{Note box|
-August 2024: Despite EVE support saying that it is not possible to add NPC-Corporations to an access list it did work.
+August 2024: Despite [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/208289645-Access-Lists EVE support] saying that it is not possible to add NPC-Corporations to an access list it did work.
 }}
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 === Built-in ===
-There is one built-in access list with one (Admin) member, the corporation the capsuleer is part of. It is named for the corporation (e.g. the one for the NPC corporation Republic University is named Republic University.) and can not be modified. So while the corporation has the Admin role it effectively only makes the list visible and usable for all members of the corporation.
+There is one built-in access list with one (Admin) member, the corporation the capsuleer is part of. It is named for the corporation (e.g. the one for the NPC corporation Republic University is named Republic University.) and can not be modified. So while the corporation has the Admin role (In contradiction with the rule that corporations can not be Admin or Manager) it effectively only makes the list visible and usable for all members of the corporation.
+=== Access Lists window ===
+Access Lists are managed through the Access List window. The Access Lists window can be opened
+* using the [[Neocom]] menu: Social > Access Lists
+* using the Neocom menu: ''corporation path?''
+* using the Neocom short-cut icon: [[File:Accessgroups.png|22px]]Access Lists <ref group=Note>The short-cut area is player configurable so the icon may or may not be there</ref>
+* using a [[Keyboard controls|hot-key]] (There is no default)
 == Create ==
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 Members can be added in several ways.
-* Clicking the {{Button|+ Add Members}} button. Uses the Add Member window. Has an {{Button|Add Member}} button activated when an entity is selected. Does only finds eligible entities.
+* Clicking the {{Button|+ Add Members}} button.
-* Using the Add Members option accessed by right-clicking the Access List name or by clicking the hamburger in the top right. Uses the Contacts window. By default finds every type but can be configured to only search characters or corporations etc.
+** Uses the Add Member window.
+*** Has an {{Button|Add Member}} button activated when an entity is selected.
+*** Does only find eligible entities.
+* Using the Add Members option accessed by right-clicking the Access List name or by clicking the hamburger in the top right.
+** Uses the Contacts window.
+*** By default finds every type but can be configured to only search characters or corporations etc.
+* Dragging from a chat channel or chat channel member list.
+* Dragging from the Guests list in a station
+* Dragging the portrait/icon from an info window
+* Dragging from an Access List(copy). Warning: This also copies the role.
 ==== Everyone ====
-Everyone can be added in one way only, clicking on the globe  icon on the bottom right of the member list.
+Everyone can only be added in one way, clicking on the globe icon on the bottom right of the member list.
 === Change role ===
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 *** Make Admin
 *** Make Manager
-*** Strangely enough, there is no option Make Member this is done by the options Remove Admin Role and Remove Manager Role
+*** Strangely enough, there is no option Make Member this is done by the options Remove Admin Role and Remove Manager Role.
 ** Corporations and alliances can not be blocked or unblocked via the menu they must be dragged to the role icon bar.
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 == Old stuff ==
-To edit access list select it on the left side panel.
-You can add pilots, corporations, or alliances by dragging them to the list. Alternatively you can use the "+ Add members" button to add new members from search results.
-There is also a special "Add everyone" button on bottom right corner. Having this "everyone" member is exactly what it says. It effectively adds everyone to the list.
-Entries in the list are of four different kinds: admin, manager, member, and blocked. Admins can change every aspect of the list. Managers are able to see the list in their ACL window and thus can see the entries. Further, they can add member and blocked entries. Members gain the access rights which are granted to an ACL but cannot explicitly see if they are part of an ACL. Blocked entries explicitly don't get access which is useful to create exceptions to the everyone entry but can also be used to create exceptions when you added corporations or alliances. The everyone entry can only have the member status.
 You can share lists through drag and drop into chat channels or [[EVE Mail]]. This way you can use ACLs created by others. Such links provide you with basic information about the ACL: its name, description, and all its admins but not managers.