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Required skills for ORE ships vary depending on the ship class. All mining-related ships require Mining Barge and Astrogeology to some level, though, and the Orca and Rorqual require leadership skills in order to give bonuses. The Primae does not require any skills to pilot, but the Noctis will require a new skill: ORE Industrial, which, at this time, is planned to only be seeded in ORE nullsec regions.  
 
Required skills for ORE ships vary depending on the ship class. All mining-related ships require Mining Barge and Astrogeology to some level, though, and the Orca and Rorqual require leadership skills in order to give bonuses. The Primae does not require any skills to pilot, but the Noctis will require a new skill: ORE Industrial, which, at this time, is planned to only be seeded in ORE nullsec regions.  
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Most ORE ships (with the notable exceptions of the Orca and Rorqual) are shield tanked. For hisec mining around Aldrat, you'll only need a tank with some decent EHP and 5 or 6 peak DPS, along with decent drone skills, in order to keep the rats away. Launch the drones when you arrive in the belt and set them to aggressive to make sure they attack rats as soon as possible; but if you don't have a few levels in Drone Durability then you'll need to keep an eye on your drone window to see if any of them are taking damage and pull in the ones that are.
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The Orca and Rorqual are also shield tanked, but most of their EHP comes from a large hull buffer that is greatly extended by fitting a DCU2.
  
 
== Mining Barges ==
 
== Mining Barges ==
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|lows=2
 
|lows=2
 
|cargohold=1000 m3
 
|cargohold=1000 m3
|dronebay=0 m3
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|dronebay=5 m3
|bandwidth= 0 Mbit/sec
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|bandwidth= 5 Mbit/sec
 
|roles=Mining
 
|roles=Mining
 
|variations=Skiff
 
|variations=Skiff
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==== [Procurer, Mining] ====
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==== [Procurer, Hisec Mining] ====
  
 
{{ShipSkillGuide
 
{{ShipSkillGuide
|name=[Procurer, Mining]
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|name=[Procurer, Hisec Mining]
 
|high=Strip Miner I
 
|high=Strip Miner I
 
|mid=Medium Shield Extender I
 
|mid=Medium Shield Extender I
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}}  
 
}}  
  
==== [Retriever, Mining] ====
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==== [Retriever, Hisec Mining] ====
  
 
{{ShipSkillGuide
 
{{ShipSkillGuide
|name=[Retriever, Mining]
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|name=[Retriever, Hisec Mining]
 
|high=Strip Miner I<br>Strip Miner I
 
|high=Strip Miner I<br>Strip Miner I
 
|mid=[empty med slot]
 
|mid=[empty med slot]
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==== [Covetor, Mining] ====
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==== [Covetor, Hisec Mining] ====
  
 
{{ShipSkillGuide
 
{{ShipSkillGuide
|name=[Covetor, Mining]
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|name=[Covetor, Hisec Mining]
 
|high=Strip Miner I<br>Strip Miner I<br>Strip Miner I
 
|high=Strip Miner I<br>Strip Miner I<br>Strip Miner I
|mid=Medium Shield Extender I
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|mid=[empty med slot]
|low=Mining Laser Upgrade I<br>
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|low=Mining Laser Upgrade II<br>
Expanded Cargohold I
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Expanded Cargohold II
 
|charges=
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Warrior I x10
 
|drones=Warrior I x10
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|name=[Covetor, Mining w/ T2 Strips]
 
|name=[Covetor, Mining w/ T2 Strips]
 
|high=Modulated Strip Miner II<br>Modulated Strip Miner II<br>Modulated Strip Miner II
 
|high=Modulated Strip Miner II<br>Modulated Strip Miner II<br>Modulated Strip Miner II
|mid=Medium Shield Extender I
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|mid=[empty med slot]
|low=Mining Laser Upgrade I<br>
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|low=Mining Laser Upgrade II<br>
Expanded Cargohold I
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Expanded Cargohold II
 
|charges=Plagioclase Mining Crystal II
 
|charges=Plagioclase Mining Crystal II
 
|drones=Warrior I x10
 
|drones=Warrior I x10
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|name=[Hulk, Hisec Mining]
 
|name=[Hulk, Hisec Mining]
 
|high=Modulated Strip Miner II<br>Modulated Strip Miner II<br>Modulated Strip Miner II
 
|high=Modulated Strip Miner II<br>Modulated Strip Miner II<br>Modulated Strip Miner II
|mid=Medium Shield Extender II<br>Medium Shield Extender II<br>Invulnerability Field II<br>Invulnerability Field II
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|mid=Small Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I<br>Small Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I<br>Small Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I<br>Shield Recharger II
 
|low=Mining Laser Upgrade II<br>Mining Laser Upgrade II
 
|low=Mining Laser Upgrade II<br>Mining Laser Upgrade II
 
|charges=Plagioclase Mining Crystal II
 
|charges=Plagioclase Mining Crystal II
 
|drones=Warrior II x10
 
|drones=Warrior II x10
|rigs=Medium Cargohold Optimization I<br>Medium Cargohold Optimization I<br>Medium Cargohold Optimization I
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|rigs=Medium Cargohold Optimization I<br>Medium Cargohold Optimization I
 
|required1=Exhumers III<br>Minmatar Drone Specialization I
 
|required1=Exhumers III<br>Minmatar Drone Specialization I
|required2=Hull Upgrades II<br>Mining Upgrades I<br>Shield Upgrades I
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|required2=Hull Upgrades II<br>Mining Upgrades V<br>Shield Upgrades IV
 
|required3=Mining V<br>Refining IV<br>[Plagioclase] Processing IV
 
|required3=Mining V<br>Refining IV<br>[Plagioclase] Processing IV
 
|recommended1=Drones V<br>Combat Drone Operation III<br>Drone Durability III<br>Drone Interfacing III<br>Scout Drone Operation III
 
|recommended1=Drones V<br>Combat Drone Operation III<br>Drone Durability III<br>Drone Interfacing III<br>Scout Drone Operation III
 
|recommended2=Energy Management III<br>Energy Systems Operation III
 
|recommended2=Energy Management III<br>Energy Systems Operation III
 
|recommended3=Astronautics Rigging I
 
|recommended3=Astronautics Rigging I
|notes=
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|notes=Like the Mackinaw, the Hulk has trouble fitting a normal tank when using two T2 upgrades. We can do slightly better than four civilian shield boosters here, though.
 
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|rigs=Medium Cargohold Optimization I<br>Medium Cargohold Optimization I<br>Medium Cargohold Optimization I
 
|rigs=Medium Cargohold Optimization I<br>Medium Cargohold Optimization I<br>Medium Cargohold Optimization I
 
|required1=Exhumers III<br>Minmatar Drone Specialization I
 
|required1=Exhumers III<br>Minmatar Drone Specialization I
|required2=Hull Upgrades II<br>Mining Upgrades I<br>Shield Upgrades I
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|required2=All Fitting Skills V
 
|required3=Mining V<br>Refining IV<br>[Plagioclase] Processing IV
 
|required3=Mining V<br>Refining IV<br>[Plagioclase] Processing IV
 
|recommended1=Drones V<br>Combat Drone Operation III<br>Drone Durability III<br>Drone Interfacing III<br>Scout Drone Operation III
 
|recommended1=Drones V<br>Combat Drone Operation III<br>Drone Durability III<br>Drone Interfacing III<br>Scout Drone Operation III
 
|recommended2=Energy Management III<br>Energy Systems Operation III
 
|recommended2=Energy Management III<br>Energy Systems Operation III
 
|recommended3=Astronautics Rigging I
 
|recommended3=Astronautics Rigging I
|notes=
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|notes=This fit should be able to tank a lot of nullsec pirate spawns, but upgrading the shield booster to a faction or deadspace booster is a common choice that will significantly upgrade the tanking capabilities.
 
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|recommended2=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|recommended3=
|notes=Cargohold expanders are avoided in favour of warp strength and align time in an effort to avoid gankers, and because expanders only affect the 100m3 cargohold.
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|notes=Cargohold expansion is avoided in favour of boosting warp strength and align time in an effort to avoid gankers, and because expanders only affect the 100m3 cargohold.
 
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|rigs=
 
|rigs=
 
|required1=Salvaging I
 
|required1=Salvaging I
|required2=
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|required2=Hull Upgrades II
 
|required3=
 
|required3=
|recommended1=
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|recommended1=Archaeology I<br>Hacking I
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|recommended3=
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|low=Expanded Cargohold II<br>Damage Control II
 
|low=Expanded Cargohold II<br>Damage Control II
 
|charges=
 
|charges=
|drones=Warrior II x10<br>Small Armour Maintenance Bot I x5
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|drones=Warrior II x10<br>Small Armor Maintenance Bot I x5
 
|rigs=Large Cargohold Optimization I<br>Large Cargohold Optimization I<br>Large Cargohold Optimization I
 
|rigs=Large Cargohold Optimization I<br>Large Cargohold Optimization I<br>Large Cargohold Optimization I
|required1=
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|required1=Industrial Command Ships I<br>Leadership V
|required2=
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|required2=Tactical Shield Manipulation IV<br>Shield Upgrades IV
 
|required3=
 
|required3=
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended1=
|recommended2=
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|recommended2=Drones V<br>Repair Drone Operation I
|recommended3=
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|recommended3=Astronautics Rigging I
|notes=
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|notes=The Armor Maintenance bots give the Orca a little bit of extra utility: they can repair any armor damage that other ships might have taken, instead of having to spend ISK to repair at the station.
 
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|name=[Orca, Faster Hauling]
 
|name=[Orca, Faster Hauling]
 
|high=[empty high slot]<br>[empty high slot]<br>[empty high slot]
 
|high=[empty high slot]<br>[empty high slot]<br>[empty high slot]
|mid=Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
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|mid=Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets<br>Invulnerability Field II<br>Invulnerability Field II<br>Medium Shield Extender II
 
|low=Power Diagnostic System II<br>Power Diagnostic System II
 
|low=Power Diagnostic System II<br>Power Diagnostic System II
 
|charges=
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Warrior II x10<br>Small Armour Maintenance Bot I x5
 
|drones=Warrior II x10<br>Small Armour Maintenance Bot I x5
 
|rigs=Large Cargohold Optimization I<br>Large Cargohold Optimization I<br>Large Cargohold Optimization I
 
|rigs=Large Cargohold Optimization I<br>Large Cargohold Optimization I<br>Large Cargohold Optimization I
|required1=
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|required1=Industrial Command Ships I<br>Engineering V
|required2=
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|required2=Energy Grid Upgrades II<br>High Speed Manoeuvring I<br>Tactical Shield Manipulation IV<br>Shield Upgrades IV
 
|required3=
 
|required3=
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended1=
|recommended2=
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|recommended2=Drones V<br>Repair Drone Operation I
|recommended3=
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|recommended3=Astronautics Rigging I
|notes=The MWD is pulsed to help the Orca align faster, giving it a 10 second align instead of 30-40 seconds.
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|notes=The MWD is pulsed to help the Orca align faster, giving it a 10 second align instead of 30-40 seconds. Fitting a single faction PDS instead of the two PDS2 will allow you to fit a damage control too.
 
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Revision as of 19:57, 22 September 2010

Template:Uwc The ORE Basic Ship and Skill Guide is intended to give basic ship fitting advice and skill recommendations for ORE ships. For more indepth discussion of the purpose and use of some specific ORE ships, please see the Mining Ships and Orca pages.

The fits given will try to fit Mining Upgrades where possible; you can replace these with Expanded Cargoholds depending on preference. Also, Warrior drones will be used, since Aldrat's local rats are Angels. You will probably want to swap these for Hobgoblins in other regions. Medium Cargohold Optimizations will be added to all fits; these are useful but optional. You'll probably want to skip them if you're thinking of reselling a ship quickly, especially the Procurer and/or Covetor.

Skills

Required skills for ORE ships vary depending on the ship class. All mining-related ships require Mining Barge and Astrogeology to some level, though, and the Orca and Rorqual require leadership skills in order to give bonuses. The Primae does not require any skills to pilot, but the Noctis will require a new skill: ORE Industrial, which, at this time, is planned to only be seeded in ORE nullsec regions.

Most ORE ships (with the notable exceptions of the Orca and Rorqual) are shield tanked. For hisec mining around Aldrat, you'll only need a tank with some decent EHP and 5 or 6 peak DPS, along with decent drone skills, in order to keep the rats away. Launch the drones when you arrive in the belt and set them to aggressive to make sure they attack rats as soon as possible; but if you don't have a few levels in Drone Durability then you'll need to keep an eye on your drone window to see if any of them are taking damage and pull in the ones that are.

The Orca and Rorqual are also shield tanked, but most of their EHP comes from a large hull buffer that is greatly extended by fitting a DCU2.

Mining Barges

Mining barges are the first level of ORE mining ships, and follow a natural progression from Procurer to Covetor. Mining Barges require various levels of Science Astrogeology and Spaceship Command Mining Barge to pilot.

Procurer

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[Procurer, Hisec Mining]

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Retriever

Template:Infobox Ship Horizontal

[Retriever, Hisec Mining]

Template:ShipSkillGuide

Covetor

Template:Infobox Ship Horizontal

[Covetor, Hisec Mining]

Template:ShipSkillGuide

[Covetor, Mining w/ T2 Strips]

This is a good point to train for T2 Strip Miners, which add a significant boost to your mining output but require more management and capacitor skills. Template:ShipSkillGuide

Exhumers

Exhumers are the T2 versions of Mining Barges. However, only the Hulk is a direct upgrade from a Mining Barge; the Skiff and Mackinaw serve specialized purposes. Exhumers all require various level of the Spaceship Command Exhumers skill to operate.

Skiff

Template:Infobox Ship Horizontal

[Skiff, Mercoxit Mining]

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Mackinaw

Template:Infobox Ship Horizontal

[Mackinaw, Ice Mining]

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[Mackinaw, T2/High Yield Ice Mining]

If you mine ice often, then it's worthwhile to train up to T2 Ice Miners for a significant boost in yield. Template:ShipSkillGuide

Hulk

Template:Infobox Ship Horizontal

[Hulk, Hisec Mining]

Template:ShipSkillGuide

[Hulk, Nullsec Mining]

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Industrial Ships

Primae

Template:Infobox Ship Horizontal

[Primae, PI Hauler]

Template:ShipSkillGuide

Noctis

Template:Infobox Ship Horizontal

[Noctis, Salvager]

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Command Industrial Ships

Orca

Template:Infobox Ship Horizontal

[Orca, Mining Support]

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[Orca, Faster Hauling]

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Capital Industrial Ships

Rorqual

Template:Infobox Ship Horizontal

[Rorqual, Mining Support]

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