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'''Bookmarks''' are used to identify unique locations in space so they can be easily warped to. Bookmarks do not need to be associated with an actual in-game object and are often used to mark locations far from surrounding celestial objects.
 
  
== Using bookmarks ==
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[[File:Locations.png|thumb|Bookmarking an object in space.]] [[File:NewLocation.png|thumb|Bookmarking window. The name and note can be changed later but the automatic expiration can not be changed after the bookmark is saved.]]
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There are two main ways of creating bookmarks.
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If you wish to bookmark your current location there are several methods:
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{{related class|Bookmarks (CORE class)}}
* Open the Neocom "Personal -> Locations" window and Select "Add Location" at the bottom and it will open up a new window that will allow you to bookmark the location you are presently at in space.
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A '''bookmark''' is a saved location, either of a "spot" (coordinate bookmark) or an "object" (object bookmark). Bookmarks can be used to warp to (when in the same system) or to add the location to the route waypoint list. Bookmarks can be personal (private) or shared.
* Open the Locations shortcut in the Neocom bar and Select "Add Location" at the bottom and it will open up a new window that will allow you to bookmark the location you are presently at in space.
 
* Faster way is to use the "Save location..." hotkey. The default is {{button|CTRL}} + {{button|B}}.
 
  
If you wish to bookmark the location of an object on grid you can right-click an item in space or on your overview and select “Save Location”. Or use the radial menu to do the same.
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== Common uses ==
 
 
The only difference between these methods is that using the first method bookmarks your ship's current position in space while the second method bookmarks another entity's location in space. You can bookmark cans, POS (Player Owned Station), wrecks, and various site locations found during core probing. You can often even bookmark objects that do not have the "warp to" option. This is useful if you are trying to position yourself on large grids.
 
 
 
 
 
'''Important:'''
 
* You can bookmark many entities in space, but if the item's location is changed by force or is destroyed, the bookmark will only indicate the original location coordinates.
 
* The 'Add location' command works both when you are at a dead stop or while moving - including warping. '''The coordinates you bookmark will indicate the exact location when you click the 'Submit' button and confirm the bookmark.'''
 
** One exception to the above occurs if you open the 'Add location' window in a station. If you undock and use that 'Add location' window in space, the bookmark will be set at the station and NOT at the point in space you were at when 'ok' was clicked.
 
 
 
=== Tips and tricks ===
 
* Any bookmark folder or subfolder can be opened into separate window by double-clicking the folder.
 
* Don’t try to write labels and notes in stressful situations - just take the necessary bookmark. The client will give an automatic label to the bookmark. You can even use the same label for different bookmarks. Because their coordinates are different, they won’t overwrite each other.
 
* Bookmarks can be moved between folders and subfolders by dragging them to the new location. Opening the target folder in separate window makes the dragging much easier.
 
* Bookmarks can be copied from one folder to another by holding {{button|shift}} key while dragging (up to 10 at a time).
 
* Bookmark window shows various information on the bookmark in separate columns: Label, type, distance, solar system, constellation, region, creation date, expiry and creator. The folder contents can be sorted by any of them.
 
* Bookmarks that are in your current system are highlighted with green.
 
* You can bookmark probes in space, useful for creating perches on gates for example. See [[Bookmarking probes]]
 
 
 
== Shared bookmark folders ==
 
[[File:BookMarksInSpace.jpg|thumb|Personal and shared bookmarks have different icons in space.]]
 
Shared bookmark folders allow sharing bookmarks with other people.
 
 
 
To create a shared bookmark
 
 
 
* If you haven't already, from '''Neocom -> Social -> Access Lists''' make an [[Access Lists|Access List]] and add the contacts you wish to share with to the list.
 
* Open '''Neocom -> Personal -> Locations''' window (default shortcut {{button|L}})
 
* Select the '''Create Folder''' button
 
* Select the '''Shared folder''' option and assign the Access List to the desired usage right levels.
 
 
 
The access to the bookmark folder is governed by [[Access Lists]]. Before you create the shared bookmark folder you will need to make at least one access list that you will use for the folder. Shared bookmark folder has five different levels of access. Higher access levels also include all the features of lower access levels.
 
* View access: View and warp to locations.
 
* Use access: Add locations, edit/delete locations added by yourself, copy locations, add subfolders, edit/delete subfolders added by yourself.
 
* Manage access: Edit/delete locations and subfolders.
 
* Admin access: Delete/rename shared folder, ACL management. Additionally, the shared folder is visible without getting link.
 
 
 
Each access level can have a different access list, or they can all have the same list.
 
 
 
Just having access to the folder is not enough to make the folder visible to other people. To share the folder simply drag the folder into chat or mail. This creates clickable link for the folder. If someone with access to the folder clicks this link they get the shared folder added to their locations.
 
 
 
The exception to the above is admin access. If you have admin access to a shared folder you can always find it in your bookmark folder.
 
 
 
{{expansion past | 
 
The bookmark system before December 2019 had very different system for bookmark sharing. There were no shared bookmark folders, instead, each corporation had single corporation wide folder. Bookmarks could also be turned into items and traded with other players with contracts.}}
 
 
 
== Limits of bookmarks ==
 
The number of bookmarks that a player can have is not unlimited.
 
 
 
* Each personal bookmark folder can contain 3000 bookmarks.
 
* You can have up to five personal bookmark folders online at once.
 
* You can have up to 30 personal bookmark folders (online+offline)
 
* Each shared bookmark folder can contain 500 bookmarks.
 
* You can have up to three shared bookmark folders online at once.
 
* You can be connected to up to 30 shared bookmark folders (online+offline)
 
* New bookmarks in shared bookmarks become usable 2 minutes after being added.
 
* Changes to shared bookmark folder access take up to 5 minutes to apply.
 
 
 
Online bookmark folders are active and can be viewed and used. Offline bookmark folders are inactive and cannot be viewed or used. Note that "visible in space" and "offline" are two separate states. Offline bookmarks are separated into "Offline folders" section in Locations window. Bookmark folders can be onlined and offlined by right clicking them and selecting the appropriate menu item.
 
 
 
== Common bookmark uses ==
 
 
There are many types of bookmarks, but all capsuleers should at least have some basic bookmarks to travel in space safely and avoid traps or hunts. Depending on your role or operation you could extend your repertoire to various bookmarks.
 
There are many types of bookmarks, but all capsuleers should at least have some basic bookmarks to travel in space safely and avoid traps or hunts. Depending on your role or operation you could extend your repertoire to various bookmarks.
  
=== Safe spots ===
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=== Safe spot ===
 
{{See also|Safe spots}}
 
{{See also|Safe spots}}
 
Safe spot bookmarks are one of the most important ways to use bookmarks. Safe spots are locations in space away from all charted entities. The only way to find someone in a safe spot and warp to that location is by using scan probes. Although you can be seen in a directional scan, you cannot be followed unless someone scans your location with probes.
 
Safe spot bookmarks are one of the most important ways to use bookmarks. Safe spots are locations in space away from all charted entities. The only way to find someone in a safe spot and warp to that location is by using scan probes. Although you can be seen in a directional scan, you cannot be followed unless someone scans your location with probes.
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Never warp to within 'zero' of your safe spot. This will reduce your chance of being detected or compromising your safe spot location. And always move rather than sit still, so even if your location is known your adversaries will not be able to land to you at zero.
 
Never warp to within 'zero' of your safe spot. This will reduce your chance of being detected or compromising your safe spot location. And always move rather than sit still, so even if your location is known your adversaries will not be able to land to you at zero.
  
=== Salvage bookmarks ===
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=== Salvage ===
 
Wrecks can not be scanned down. If you wish to return to the battlefield you will need to bookmark the location before you leave.
 
Wrecks can not be scanned down. If you wish to return to the battlefield you will need to bookmark the location before you leave.
  
=== Instadock bookmarks ===
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=== Instadock ===
 
When you warp to any location your ship will land approximately 2500 meters away from the target. On stations, this means that you can land outside of the docking range and are vulnerable to ganks as you approach the station. This is especially dangerous at trade hubs where gankers may try to kill you. Instadock bookmarks solve this issue.
 
When you warp to any location your ship will land approximately 2500 meters away from the target. On stations, this means that you can land outside of the docking range and are vulnerable to ganks as you approach the station. This is especially dangerous at trade hubs where gankers may try to kill you. Instadock bookmarks solve this issue.
  
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You can find a demonstration video on Youtube: [https://youtu.be/aKmn3rabMac Staying Safe - Insta-Docks].
 
You can find a demonstration video on Youtube: [https://youtu.be/aKmn3rabMac Staying Safe - Insta-Docks].
  
=== Instaundock bookmarks ===
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=== Insta-undock ===
 
When you undock from a station your ship will be moving at maximum velocity towards a certain direction. By having a bookmark far in that direction it is possible to instantly warp off after undocking.<br>
 
When you undock from a station your ship will be moving at maximum velocity towards a certain direction. By having a bookmark far in that direction it is possible to instantly warp off after undocking.<br>
 
The most common way of making an instaundock is to use a very fast MWD frigate. Undock from the station and burn away. It is also possible to use mid-warp bookmarks, celestial alignment or lucky signatures. The instaundock bookmark should ideally be far enough from the station so that it is not on the same grid. This way you will disappear from their overview after warping to it.<br>
 
The most common way of making an instaundock is to use a very fast MWD frigate. Undock from the station and burn away. It is also possible to use mid-warp bookmarks, celestial alignment or lucky signatures. The instaundock bookmark should ideally be far enough from the station so that it is not on the same grid. This way you will disappear from their overview after warping to it.<br>
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Using instaundocks is not recommended for slow ships. A well placed combat prober will be able to probe a slow ship at the landing position before the slow ship is able to warp away.
 
Using instaundocks is not recommended for slow ships. A well placed combat prober will be able to probe a slow ship at the landing position before the slow ship is able to warp away.
  
=== Tactical bookmarks ===
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=== Tactical ===
 
Tactical bookmarks are bookmarks that are on grid with a point of interest (such as station or stargate) but far enough that hostiles on the grid will not be a danger to you and [[Tackling#Warp disruption fields|drag bubbles]] will not drag you. They should be at minimum 200 km away so that warping between the target and the bookmark is always possible.<br>
 
Tactical bookmarks are bookmarks that are on grid with a point of interest (such as station or stargate) but far enough that hostiles on the grid will not be a danger to you and [[Tackling#Warp disruption fields|drag bubbles]] will not drag you. They should be at minimum 200 km away so that warping between the target and the bookmark is always possible.<br>
 
Tactical bookmarks can be used to check the target grid before warping in or to prey on passing by ships, ready to warp in as soon as the victim arrives.[[File:TacticalBookmarkLayout.gif|thumb|Tactical bookmarks placed around a gate. Click to see animation.]]
 
Tactical bookmarks can be used to check the target grid before warping in or to prey on passing by ships, ready to warp in as soon as the victim arrives.[[File:TacticalBookmarkLayout.gif|thumb|Tactical bookmarks placed around a gate. Click to see animation.]]
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Once you have established this collection of bookmarks around a station, you can extend the thinking to key stargates within the system. The "high ground" of a stargate is either the path that is furthest away from the sun or furthest away from your home station.
 
Once you have established this collection of bookmarks around a station, you can extend the thinking to key stargates within the system. The "high ground" of a stargate is either the path that is furthest away from the sun or furthest away from your home station.
  
=== Bubbling bookmarks ===
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=== Bubbling ===
 
Finding a good spot for a warp disruption bubble takes time. So if you think you may be camping the same stargate in the future, you will want to save the location where you want your bubble to be.
 
Finding a good spot for a warp disruption bubble takes time. So if you think you may be camping the same stargate in the future, you will want to save the location where you want your bubble to be.
  
== Organizing and managing bookmarks ==
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== Limits ==
As time goes by you will create a lot of bookmarks and if you don’t organize and manage them, you will mess them up. This section presents some basic techniques you can use to avoid that. The following are not strict rules. They are, however, built upon solid experience. In time, you should feel free to develop your own style and system.
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The number of bookmarks that a player can have is limited.
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* Each personal bookmark [[#Locations window|folder]] can contain 3,000 bookmarks.
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** You can have up to 30 personal bookmark folders ([[#Folder status|online + offline]])
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** You can have up to five personal bookmark folders online at once.
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* Each shared bookmark folder can contain 500 bookmarks.
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** You can be [[#Folder status|connected]] to up to 30 shared bookmark folders (online + offline)
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** You can have up to three shared bookmark folders online at once.
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* Bookmarks in shared folders become usable 2 minutes after being added.
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* Changes to shared bookmark folder access take up to 5 minutes to apply.
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== Create ==
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[[File:NewLocation.png|thumb|New Location (bookmark) window.]]
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Bookmarks are created through the New Location window The window has the following fields:
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* '''Label''' - The name of the bookmark. Pre-filled with for
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** coordinate bookmarks - "Spot in <''System name''> solar system"
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** object bookmarks - the name of the object
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* '''Notes''' - Optional field for notes about the bookmark <!-- Appears to be only visible in the new and edit window -->
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{{Important note box|
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Don’t try to write labels and notes in stressful situations - just save the bookmark.
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* '''Folder''' - A selection list with the available (sub-)folders where the bookmark will be saved. The folder of the last saved bookmark is kept as the active selection
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* '''Expiry''' - The automatic delete time. Choose an option by selecting the corresponding radio button. The setting of the last saved bookmark is kept on a per folder base
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** Never
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** In 2 Days
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** In 3 Hours
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Bookmarks are saved when the {{Button|Submit}} button is clicked. When saving a coordinate bookmark the saved coordinates are from the position the ship is in when the button is clicked, even when in mid-move/warp. Object bookmarks save the coordinates from the object regardless of where your ship is.
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'''Tips and tricks'''
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[[File:Warning existing location.png|thumb|Warning existing object bookmark]]
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* Probes in space can be bookmarked, useful for creating perches on gates for example. See [[Bookmarking probes]]
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* {{Co|Yellow|Important:}} When an object is destroyed or moved the bookmark still points to the original position
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* Expiry can not be edited, but it can be canceled.
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* The same label can be used for multiple bookmarks. Identical labels will <em>not</em> overwrite each other.
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* Creating a second bookmark of the same object will cause a warning. If the warning is ignored a new bookmark is created for that object.
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* Opening the New Location window when docked will start the creation of an object bookmark. This will not change when undocking
  
The most important part of organizing your bookmarks is labeling. In stressful situations, you have to be able to recognize the right bookmark and use it in an instant. Therefore, your bookmark labels need to have a standard, easily recognizable format. It is important to create - and use - an efficient way to label your bookmarks from the beginning. You will thank yourself in the future.
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=== Open the New Location window ===<!-- Full text because of multiple open the XXX window sections -->
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The window can be opened in several ways:
  
You may also use folders to organize your bookmarks.
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For coordinate bookmarks.
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* Open the [[#Open the Locations window|Locations]] window and click the Add Location button.
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* Use the hot-key (default: {{Button|CTRL}}+{{Button|B}}).
  
Before labeling your bookmarks, you should familiarize yourself with the information stored with your bookmarks in the Locations window.
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For object bookmarks
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* Use the right-click option Save Location on an object (some objects, like ships, can not be saved and thus do not have the option)
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** This option will work on, among others, - brackets in space - objects in the overview - objects in the market window - objects in the agent mission offer window - linked objects and agents in chat , mail and the notebook, anomalies and fully identified (green - 100%) signatures in the probe window and more.
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* Use the radial menu. The push-pin on the second level.
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* Open the Locations window and click the Add Location button (Only when docked).
  
[[File:Labels.jpg]]
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== Share ==
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[[File:Locations-New Folder-Shared.png|thumb|New Folder window]]
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[[File:BookMarksInSpace.jpg|thumb|Personal and shared bookmarks have different icons in space.]]
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Bookmarks are shared by placing them in a shared folder. For the bookmarks to be available the folder must be connected.
  
As you can see in the above illustration, each bookmark automatically contains the following information:
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Access to a shared folder is governed by [[Access List]]s. Before creating a shared folder at least one access list must exist to be used for the folder.
  
{| style="text-align: left;"
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Shared folders have four different levels of access. Higher access levels include all the features of lower access levels.
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# '''View access''': View folder and contents, and use locations.
! Label:
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# '''Use access''': Add locations, edit/delete own locations, copy locations, create sub-folders, edit/delete own sub-folders.
| The label is the name you assign to your bookmark
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# '''Manage access''': Edit/delete all locations and all sub-folders.
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# '''Admin access''': Rename/delete/ the folder and access management<ref group=Note>5 August 2024: The in-game help has this as "Edit Access Lists" but this is not correct. Edit permission for an access list is controlled by the list itself. What is meant here is the permission to assign access lists to an access level.</ref>. Additionally, connect to the shared folder without a connection link.
! Type:  
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| Type of the bookmark (for example "Station" or "Coordinate")
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=== Connection link ===
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Non "Admin access" users need a connection link to connect to a shared folder. To create a connection link drag the shared folder into chat, a chat channels MOTD or EVE mail. Clicking on the connection link will add the folder to the Location window, when having access permission, and not reached the connections [[#Limits|limit]].
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| Indicates current number of jumps away from the solar system the bookmark is placed in
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When creating a shared folder the connection link can also be dragged from the confirmation window.
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! Sol:  
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"Admin access" users do not need a connection link, they can connect to a shared folder via the "Shared folders With Admin Access" folder.
| Solar System the bookmark is placed in
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=== Create a shared folder ===
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If you haven't already done so, create an [[Access List]] and add the contacts you wish to share the folder with to the list.
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* Open the "Locations" window ('''Neocom -> Personal -> Locations''', default shortcut {{button|L}})
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* Click the '''Create Folder''' button
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* Enter a folder name (Required)
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* Enter notes (Optional)
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* Select the '''Shared folder''' option and:
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** Assign an access list for '''Admin access''' (Required)
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** Assign access lists to the other access levels as wanted (Optional)
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* Click {{Button|Submit}}
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{{expansion past|width= 50%| 
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The bookmark system before December 2019 had very different system for bookmark sharing. There were no shared bookmark folders, instead, each corporation had single corporation wide folder. Bookmarks could also be turned into items and traded with other players with contracts.
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{{Clear}}
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== Organize and manage ==
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As time goes by you will create a lot of bookmarks and if you don’t organize and manage them, you will mess them up. This section presents some basic techniques that can be used to avoid that. The following are not strict rules. They are, however, built upon solid experience. In time, feel free to develop your own style and system. Corporations or elements thereof may have, like [[WHC Bookmark Naming Scheme|EVE Unis WHC]] does, rules for labeling
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=== Label ===
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The most important part of organizing bookmarks is labeling. In stressful situations, you have to be able to recognize the right bookmark and use it in an instant. Therefore, bookmark labels need to have a standard, easily recognizable format. It is important to create - and use - an efficient way to label bookmarks from the beginning. You will thank yourself in the future.
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Before labeling bookmarks, you should familiarize yourself with the information automatically stored with the bookmarks in the Locations window.
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; Label : Name assigned to the bookmark.
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; Type : Type of bookmark. Either "Coordinate" for coordinate bookmarks or the type of the bookmarked object like "Station", "Citadel", "Refinery" etc for object bookmarks.
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; Jumps : Number of jumps from the current location.
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; SOL : Solar system the bookmark is located in.
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; CON : Constellation the bookmark is located in.
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; REG : Region the bookmark is located in.
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; Date : Date and time of creation.
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; Expiry : Date and time of auto deletion.
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; Creator : Name of the capasuleer that created the bookmark
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This information is visible in (sort-able) columns on the Locations window and apart from Label and Expiry (limited) can <em>not</em> be edited.
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Try not to use information already available in the Locations window for bookmark labels, and keep it as simple as possible because you may need to find bookmark in an instant in case of an emergency or a strict situation.
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=== Locations window ===
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The Locations window is the central repository of bookmarks. It has a three level structure of root-folders, folders and sub-folders.
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Folders and sub-folders can be used to organize bookmarks. (sub-)folders can be used to arrange bookmarks according to their uses. Folders are also used to control the availability and the visibility in space (see {{Section link| |Folder status}}).
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A folder, of any level, can be opened in its own window by using the right-click menu option "Open Group Window" or double-clicking the folder. Opening a folder in its own window automatically collapses the folder in the Locations window. Expanding that folder in the Locations window will close the stand-alone folder.
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Bookmark data is divided over 9 columns: Label, Type, Jumps, SOL, CON, REG, Date, Expiry and Creator (See {{Section link| |Label}} for a description).
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Bookmarks that are in the current system are high-lighted, with the color depending on the Color Theme in use.
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==== Root-folders ====
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The Locations window has four build in "root"-folders:
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[[File:Locations window collapsed.png]]
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* Locations in <''System''>: This folder is managed by the game and will contain al personal and shared bookmarks that are in online folders in the system that you are currently residing in. <br>It  has a second single window form that differs from the standard one as it has less(3) and different columns (Labels, Folder and Expiry). This folder is opened by clicking on the icon on the far right of the folder name.
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: [[File:Locations-In system.png]]
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* Personal Locations: This folder contains folders with your personal bookmarks that only you can see.
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* Shared Locations: This folder contains folders that either are shared with others or others have shared with you.
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* Agent missions: This folder is managed by the game and will contain al bookmarks to locations that are related to accepted missions.
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The root-folders Personal- and Shared Locations are divided into player controlled folders and sub-folders. There must be at least one folder to be able to store bookmarks.
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==== Folders ====
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Folders can contain a mixture of sub folders and bookmarks. Folder are used to control the usability of the bookmarks within (online/offline), the visibility of bookmarks in space and in the case of shared folders: access control.
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==== Sub-folders ====
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Sub-folders can be created inside folders and can only contain bookmarks. Sub-folders can be used to control visibility in space.
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==== Administrative folders ====
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These folders are controlled by the game.
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; Offline Folders : When one or more folders have the offline status this folder is created and the offline folders are placed in it. When there are no more folders with offline status this folder is automatically removed. This folder can exist in both Personal- and Shared Folders
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; Shared folders With Admin Access : This folder contains all the shared folders with "Admin access" permission regardless of their statuses (connected/disconnected - online/offline). The statuses are visible behind the folders.
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==== Folder status ====
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{| class=wikitable
 
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! Con:  
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! style="width: 12em;" | Status !! style="width: 8em;" | Applicable to !! Description
| Constellation the bookmark is placed in
 
 
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! Reg:
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| online / offline || (Shared) Folders || Controls whether the bookmarks are available for use and the availability of the folder when [[#Create|creating]] new bookmarks. <br>Offline/online status is managed through the right-click menu. <br>When a folder is offline it is moved to the "Offline Folders" folder and appears grayed-out.
| Region the bookmark is placed in
 
 
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! Date:
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| visible / invisible || (Shared) Folders<br>Sub-folders || Controls the visibility of bookmarks in space. <br>The visibility status is indicated and managed by the eye symbol behind the folder name. Green means visible, grey means hidden. <br>Clicking the eye symbol swaps the status.
| Indicates the date of creation of the bookmark
 
 
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! Expiry:
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| connected / disconnected || Shared folders || Controls whether a shared folder is available to you. <br>Disconnected folders with "Admin access" permission can be reconnected through the "Shared folders With Admin Access" folder. Reconnecting to shared folders without "Admin access" requires the connection link. (see also {{Section link| |Share}})
| Date at which the bookmark auto deletes
 
 
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Avoid using these details in your bookmarks to simplify their labels. Also, you can arrange the location of the columns according to your choice.
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==== Open the Locations window ====<!-- Full text because of multiple open the XXX window sections -->
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The locations window can be opened by:
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* using the Neocom menu: Personal > Locations
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* using the Neocom short-cut icon: Locations (The short-cut area is player configurable so the icon may or may not be there).
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* using the hot-key (Default: {{Button|L}})
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== Edit ==
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[[File:Locations-Edit Location.png|thumb|Edit Location (bookmark) window]]
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Only bookmarks in [[#Folder status|online]] folders can be edited. Editable fields are Label, Notes and Folder. Changing the Folder effectively moves the bookmark.
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Expire can be sort of edited in that a set expire time can be canceled making the bookmark permanent.
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The edit window is accessed through the bookmarks right-click option "Edit Location".
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== Copy and move ==
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Copying and moving of bookmarks can only be done between [[#Folder status|online]] folders.
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Bookmarks are '''copied''' by {{Button|Ctrl}}+{{Button|Shift}}-dragging a bookmark on top of the destination folder.
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Bookmarks are '''moved''' by either {{Button|Ctrl}}-dragging a bookmark on top of the destination folder or by changing the folder when editing the bookmark.
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When using the drag method multiple bookmarks can be copied/moved in a single action. When using the drag method bookmarks of multiple source folders can be copied/moved in a single action. Selecting multiple bookmarks is done by either {{Button|Ctrl}}-clicking individual bookmarks or for a number of consecutive bookmarks by clicking on the first and then {{Button|Shift}}-clicking the last bookmark.
  
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== Delete ==
* Try not to use information already available in the Locations window for bookmark labels, and keep it as simple as possible because you may need to find your bookmark in an instant in case of an emergency or a strict situation.
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Only bookmarks in [[#Folder status|online]] folders can be deleted. Bookmarks can be deleted via the bookmarks right-click option "Remove Location" in the Locations window or on the bookmark brackets. When doing so in the Locations window multiple bookmarks, in multiple folders, can be deleted in a single action.
* You can sort your bookmarks according to their jump distance. This way they will be available on top of the list. The bookmarks in the current system are always highlighted with green to help you separate them from the others.
 
* You may reach your bookmarks through the right-click menu while in space. Only the bookmarks in the current system will show up in this menu.
 
  
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Selecting multiple bookmarks is done by either {{Button|Ctrl}}-clicking individual bookmarks or for a number of consecutive bookmarks by clicking on the first and then {{Button|Shift}}-clicking the last bookmark.
  
Using folders and sub folders is a simple way to organize your bookmarks. You can use folders to arrange your bookmarks according to their uses. You also use the folders to choose whether to display a folder's bookmarks in space or not. Clicking the eye icon sets visibility. Green means visible, grey means hidden.
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Note: When deleting a (sub-)folder the bookmarks in it will be deleted as well.
  
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== Notes ==
* When you use the right-click menu to reach your bookmarks in space, you will also see your folders there (only those containing bookmarks in the current system though.)
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* Bookmarks in the root folder (not in a sub folder) are extremely easy to access in space - use this to your advantage.
 
* If you would like to keep just one bookmark folder open from your Locations just double click on the folder you want and a copy will be created on your screen and you will be able to close the Locations window and the folder you choose will remain.
 
  
 
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A bookmark is a saved location, either of a "spot" (coordinate bookmark) or an "object" (object bookmark). Bookmarks can be used to warp to (when in the same system) or to add the location to the route waypoint list. Bookmarks can be personal (private) or shared.

Common uses

There are many types of bookmarks, but all capsuleers should at least have some basic bookmarks to travel in space safely and avoid traps or hunts. Depending on your role or operation you could extend your repertoire to various bookmarks.

Safe spot

See also: Safe spots

Safe spot bookmarks are one of the most important ways to use bookmarks. Safe spots are locations in space away from all charted entities. The only way to find someone in a safe spot and warp to that location is by using scan probes. Although you can be seen in a directional scan, you cannot be followed unless someone scans your location with probes.

There are three basic types of safe spots.

Mid-point safes are the simplest and least secure form of safes. Create a bookmark while warping between two celestials. It is fairly easy to get the approximate position of a midpoint safe by using directional scanner which makes them easier to probe. A determined pilot can even locate mid-point safes with the directional scanner and mid warp bookmarks.

Example of unaligned safe that has been made with one mid-point safe and a celestial.

Unaligned safes are considerably more secure than mid-point safes. These spots are not in alignment between two celestial objects. Unaligned safes can be made by either bookmarking signatures/mission sites or by creating a safe spot while warping from between a mid-point safe and another location.

Deep safes are the most secure form of safe spots. Usually, a safe is considered to be deep safe if it is more than 14 AU from any celestial and is not in between celestials. This makes it impossible to be seen with the directional scanner. Proper deep safes can be hard to make. The following are the three most common methods:



Never warp to within 'zero' of your safe spot. This will reduce your chance of being detected or compromising your safe spot location. And always move rather than sit still, so even if your location is known your adversaries will not be able to land to you at zero.

Salvage

Wrecks can not be scanned down. If you wish to return to the battlefield you will need to bookmark the location before you leave.

Instadock

When you warp to any location your ship will land approximately 2500 meters away from the target. On stations, this means that you can land outside of the docking range and are vulnerable to ganks as you approach the station. This is especially dangerous at trade hubs where gankers may try to kill you. Instadock bookmarks solve this issue.

An instadock bookmark is simply a bookmark that is placed at least 2500 meters inside of the docking range. One common way of creating an instadock bookmark is by undocking from a station and saving the location immediately or while the overview says that you are within 0 meters of that station. Instadock bookmarks can be used in combination with the autopilot. Set the target station as your destination and warp to the instadock bookmark. Enable autopilot after entering the warp. As soon as you land on the bookmark your autopilot will automatically dock your ship.

You can find a demonstration video on Youtube: Staying Safe - Insta-Docks.

Insta-undock

When you undock from a station your ship will be moving at maximum velocity towards a certain direction. By having a bookmark far in that direction it is possible to instantly warp off after undocking.
The most common way of making an instaundock is to use a very fast MWD frigate. Undock from the station and burn away. It is also possible to use mid-warp bookmarks, celestial alignment or lucky signatures. The instaundock bookmark should ideally be far enough from the station so that it is not on the same grid. This way you will disappear from their overview after warping to it.
It should be noted that the ship heading has a small random variance on undock.

Using instaundocks is not recommended for slow ships. A well placed combat prober will be able to probe a slow ship at the landing position before the slow ship is able to warp away.

Tactical

Tactical bookmarks are bookmarks that are on grid with a point of interest (such as station or stargate) but far enough that hostiles on the grid will not be a danger to you and drag bubbles will not drag you. They should be at minimum 200 km away so that warping between the target and the bookmark is always possible.

Tactical bookmarks can be used to check the target grid before warping in or to prey on passing by ships, ready to warp in as soon as the victim arrives.

Tactical bookmarks placed around a gate. Click to see animation.

Tactical bookmarks "above" or "below" the target can also be used for bypassing bubbles.

Tactical bookmarks can also be used for fast repositioning on grid. The recommended layout for a Tactical PvP Bookmark Setup is the classic 3 axes, 4 points per axes, with 150km separating each Bookmark Point. With this layout, almost every point around a designated area (eg. Jump Gate, POS, Station...) in a radius of 300km can be reached, allowing fast position changes as well as the famous "50km Warp" known to be the smallest distance a ship can warp to. if you have a target 50 km away and a tactical bookmark 200 km behind them you can warp to the bookmark at 150 km and land right on top of the target.

The fastest way to create a Tactically Bookmarked Location would be the combined use of Micro Jump Drives (MJD) and Micro Warp Drives (MWD), although it was rarely used in the middle of a fleet fight, these could allow fast creation of such Bookmarks in those situations.

Ender's View of Tactical bookmarks
For those who are a fan of the book Ender's Game:
While at first glance, an undocking ship appears to travel in a straight line, remember this is space and the orientation is in the eye of the beholder. Accordingly, Ender would articulate that when you undock, you are really "falling". Thus, the bookmark behind the undock point represents the High Ground of any combat situation. (If you want to see it in practice, imagine someone is shooting at you from behind the station the next time you undock; try to turn around and burn towards the hypothetical aggressor, and enjoy getting stuck bumping into the station.)

Once you have established this collection of bookmarks around a station, you can extend the thinking to key stargates within the system. The "high ground" of a stargate is either the path that is furthest away from the sun or furthest away from your home station.

Bubbling

Finding a good spot for a warp disruption bubble takes time. So if you think you may be camping the same stargate in the future, you will want to save the location where you want your bubble to be.

Limits

The number of bookmarks that a player can have is limited.

  • Each personal bookmark folder can contain 3,000 bookmarks.
    • You can have up to 30 personal bookmark folders (online + offline)
    • You can have up to five personal bookmark folders online at once.
  • Each shared bookmark folder can contain 500 bookmarks.
    • You can be connected to up to 30 shared bookmark folders (online + offline)
    • You can have up to three shared bookmark folders online at once.
  • Bookmarks in shared folders become usable 2 minutes after being added.
  • Changes to shared bookmark folder access take up to 5 minutes to apply.

Create

New Location (bookmark) window.

Bookmarks are created through the New Location window The window has the following fields:

  • Label - The name of the bookmark. Pre-filled with for
    • coordinate bookmarks - "Spot in <System name> solar system"
    • object bookmarks - the name of the object
  • Notes - Optional field for notes about the bookmark

Don’t try to write labels and notes in stressful situations - just save the bookmark.

  • Folder - A selection list with the available (sub-)folders where the bookmark will be saved. The folder of the last saved bookmark is kept as the active selection
  • Expiry - The automatic delete time. Choose an option by selecting the corresponding radio button. The setting of the last saved bookmark is kept on a per folder base
    • Never
    • In 2 Days
    • In 3 Hours

Bookmarks are saved when the Submit button is clicked. When saving a coordinate bookmark the saved coordinates are from the position the ship is in when the button is clicked, even when in mid-move/warp. Object bookmarks save the coordinates from the object regardless of where your ship is.

Tips and tricks

Warning existing object bookmark
  • Probes in space can be bookmarked, useful for creating perches on gates for example. See Bookmarking probes
  • Important: When an object is destroyed or moved the bookmark still points to the original position
  • Expiry can not be edited, but it can be canceled.
  • The same label can be used for multiple bookmarks. Identical labels will not overwrite each other.
  • Creating a second bookmark of the same object will cause a warning. If the warning is ignored a new bookmark is created for that object.
  • Opening the New Location window when docked will start the creation of an object bookmark. This will not change when undocking

Open the New Location window

The window can be opened in several ways:

For coordinate bookmarks.

  • Open the Locations window and click the Add Location button.
  • Use the hot-key (default: CTRL+B).

For object bookmarks

  • Use the right-click option Save Location on an object (some objects, like ships, can not be saved and thus do not have the option)
    • This option will work on, among others, - brackets in space - objects in the overview - objects in the market window - objects in the agent mission offer window - linked objects and agents in chat , mail and the notebook, anomalies and fully identified (green - 100%) signatures in the probe window and more.
  • Use the radial menu. The push-pin on the second level.
  • Open the Locations window and click the Add Location button (Only when docked).

Share

New Folder window
Personal and shared bookmarks have different icons in space.

Bookmarks are shared by placing them in a shared folder. For the bookmarks to be available the folder must be connected.

Access to a shared folder is governed by Access Lists. Before creating a shared folder at least one access list must exist to be used for the folder.

Shared folders have four different levels of access. Higher access levels include all the features of lower access levels.

  1. View access: View folder and contents, and use locations.
  2. Use access: Add locations, edit/delete own locations, copy locations, create sub-folders, edit/delete own sub-folders.
  3. Manage access: Edit/delete all locations and all sub-folders.
  4. Admin access: Rename/delete/ the folder and access management[Note 1]. Additionally, connect to the shared folder without a connection link.

Connection link

Non "Admin access" users need a connection link to connect to a shared folder. To create a connection link drag the shared folder into chat, a chat channels MOTD or EVE mail. Clicking on the connection link will add the folder to the Location window, when having access permission, and not reached the connections limit.

When creating a shared folder the connection link can also be dragged from the confirmation window.

"Admin access" users do not need a connection link, they can connect to a shared folder via the "Shared folders With Admin Access" folder.

Create a shared folder

If you haven't already done so, create an Access List and add the contacts you wish to share the folder with to the list.

  • Open the "Locations" window (Neocom -> Personal -> Locations, default shortcut L)
  • Click the Create Folder button
  • Enter a folder name (Required)
  • Enter notes (Optional)
  • Select the Shared folder option and:
    • Assign an access list for Admin access (Required)
    • Assign access lists to the other access levels as wanted (Optional)
  • Click Submit


Organize and manage

As time goes by you will create a lot of bookmarks and if you don’t organize and manage them, you will mess them up. This section presents some basic techniques that can be used to avoid that. The following are not strict rules. They are, however, built upon solid experience. In time, feel free to develop your own style and system. Corporations or elements thereof may have, like EVE Unis WHC does, rules for labeling

Label

The most important part of organizing bookmarks is labeling. In stressful situations, you have to be able to recognize the right bookmark and use it in an instant. Therefore, bookmark labels need to have a standard, easily recognizable format. It is important to create - and use - an efficient way to label bookmarks from the beginning. You will thank yourself in the future.

Before labeling bookmarks, you should familiarize yourself with the information automatically stored with the bookmarks in the Locations window.

Label
Name assigned to the bookmark.
Type
Type of bookmark. Either "Coordinate" for coordinate bookmarks or the type of the bookmarked object like "Station", "Citadel", "Refinery" etc for object bookmarks.
Jumps
Number of jumps from the current location.
SOL
Solar system the bookmark is located in.
CON
Constellation the bookmark is located in.
REG
Region the bookmark is located in.
Date
Date and time of creation.
Expiry
Date and time of auto deletion.
Creator
Name of the capasuleer that created the bookmark

This information is visible in (sort-able) columns on the Locations window and apart from Label and Expiry (limited) can not be edited.

Try not to use information already available in the Locations window for bookmark labels, and keep it as simple as possible because you may need to find bookmark in an instant in case of an emergency or a strict situation.

Locations window

The Locations window is the central repository of bookmarks. It has a three level structure of root-folders, folders and sub-folders.

Folders and sub-folders can be used to organize bookmarks. (sub-)folders can be used to arrange bookmarks according to their uses. Folders are also used to control the availability and the visibility in space (see § Folder status).

A folder, of any level, can be opened in its own window by using the right-click menu option "Open Group Window" or double-clicking the folder. Opening a folder in its own window automatically collapses the folder in the Locations window. Expanding that folder in the Locations window will close the stand-alone folder.

Bookmark data is divided over 9 columns: Label, Type, Jumps, SOL, CON, REG, Date, Expiry and Creator (See § Label for a description).

Bookmarks that are in the current system are high-lighted, with the color depending on the Color Theme in use.

Root-folders

The Locations window has four build in "root"-folders:

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  • Locations in <System>: This folder is managed by the game and will contain al personal and shared bookmarks that are in online folders in the system that you are currently residing in.
    It has a second single window form that differs from the standard one as it has less(3) and different columns (Labels, Folder and Expiry). This folder is opened by clicking on the icon on the far right of the folder name.
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  • Personal Locations: This folder contains folders with your personal bookmarks that only you can see.
  • Shared Locations: This folder contains folders that either are shared with others or others have shared with you.
  • Agent missions: This folder is managed by the game and will contain al bookmarks to locations that are related to accepted missions.

The root-folders Personal- and Shared Locations are divided into player controlled folders and sub-folders. There must be at least one folder to be able to store bookmarks.

Folders

Folders can contain a mixture of sub folders and bookmarks. Folder are used to control the usability of the bookmarks within (online/offline), the visibility of bookmarks in space and in the case of shared folders: access control.

Sub-folders

Sub-folders can be created inside folders and can only contain bookmarks. Sub-folders can be used to control visibility in space.

Administrative folders

These folders are controlled by the game.

Offline Folders
When one or more folders have the offline status this folder is created and the offline folders are placed in it. When there are no more folders with offline status this folder is automatically removed. This folder can exist in both Personal- and Shared Folders
Shared folders With Admin Access
This folder contains all the shared folders with "Admin access" permission regardless of their statuses (connected/disconnected - online/offline). The statuses are visible behind the folders.

Folder status

Status Applicable to Description
online / offline (Shared) Folders Controls whether the bookmarks are available for use and the availability of the folder when creating new bookmarks.
Offline/online status is managed through the right-click menu.
When a folder is offline it is moved to the "Offline Folders" folder and appears grayed-out.
visible / invisible (Shared) Folders
Sub-folders
Controls the visibility of bookmarks in space.
The visibility status is indicated and managed by the eye symbol behind the folder name. Green means visible, grey means hidden.
Clicking the eye symbol swaps the status.
connected / disconnected Shared folders Controls whether a shared folder is available to you.
Disconnected folders with "Admin access" permission can be reconnected through the "Shared folders With Admin Access" folder. Reconnecting to shared folders without "Admin access" requires the connection link. (see also § Share)

Open the Locations window

The locations window can be opened by:

  • using the Neocom menu: Personal > Locations
  • using the Neocom short-cut icon: Locations (The short-cut area is player configurable so the icon may or may not be there).
  • using the hot-key (Default: L)

Edit

Edit Location (bookmark) window

Only bookmarks in online folders can be edited. Editable fields are Label, Notes and Folder. Changing the Folder effectively moves the bookmark.

Expire can be sort of edited in that a set expire time can be canceled making the bookmark permanent.

The edit window is accessed through the bookmarks right-click option "Edit Location".

Copy and move

Copying and moving of bookmarks can only be done between online folders.

Bookmarks are copied by Ctrl+Shift-dragging a bookmark on top of the destination folder.

Bookmarks are moved by either Ctrl-dragging a bookmark on top of the destination folder or by changing the folder when editing the bookmark.

When using the drag method multiple bookmarks can be copied/moved in a single action. When using the drag method bookmarks of multiple source folders can be copied/moved in a single action. Selecting multiple bookmarks is done by either Ctrl-clicking individual bookmarks or for a number of consecutive bookmarks by clicking on the first and then Shift-clicking the last bookmark.

Delete

Only bookmarks in online folders can be deleted. Bookmarks can be deleted via the bookmarks right-click option "Remove Location" in the Locations window or on the bookmark brackets. When doing so in the Locations window multiple bookmarks, in multiple folders, can be deleted in a single action.

Selecting multiple bookmarks is done by either Ctrl-clicking individual bookmarks or for a number of consecutive bookmarks by clicking on the first and then Shift-clicking the last bookmark.

Note: When deleting a (sub-)folder the bookmarks in it will be deleted as well.

Notes

  1. ^ 5 August 2024: The in-game help has this as "Edit Access Lists" but this is not correct. Edit permission for an access list is controlled by the list itself. What is meant here is the permission to assign access lists to an access level.

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