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| − | "So how much will this cost me?" you may ask. Not much, in my opinion, and it also depends. Five million isk will pay for all the skill books and leave enough left over to buy your command centers (81,000 isk in | + | "So how much will this cost me?" you may ask. Not much, in my opinion, and it also depends. Five million isk will pay for all the skill books and leave enough left over to buy your command centers (81,000 to 87,000 isk in April 2019) and an industrial hauler that is needed to haul the massive Command Centers (1,000 m3 each). This leaves a little left over for building the colony, which costs an additional five million a planet. If you are willing to start small, you can finance your own operation by using the sales of your first planet's materials to fund more advanced operations, and additional planets (this is starting slow, but a perfectly good plan that will be maxed in no time). |
Financing is also available either by doing the tutorials or use your main character to pay for the alt character's training. The tutorials can provide about 4-5 million isk and a couple industrial ships, but can be time consuming. Transferring funds from your main character is faster, simply locate your alt using the People & Places tool, right click the character's icon, and choose "Give Money". If your main has 30 million isk to give to your alt, you'll fully fund your alt's training and initial operations, and the investment will pay itself off rather quickly once all five planets are up and running. And, of course, you can have your alt run distribution missions, as you'll have them piloting a nice flying cargohold. | Financing is also available either by doing the tutorials or use your main character to pay for the alt character's training. The tutorials can provide about 4-5 million isk and a couple industrial ships, but can be time consuming. Transferring funds from your main character is faster, simply locate your alt using the People & Places tool, right click the character's icon, and choose "Give Money". If your main has 30 million isk to give to your alt, you'll fully fund your alt's training and initial operations, and the investment will pay itself off rather quickly once all five planets are up and running. And, of course, you can have your alt run distribution missions, as you'll have them piloting a nice flying cargohold. | ||
Revision as of 14:59, 27 April 2019
- Main article: Alternate characters
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This is a guide for skilling and maintaining a Planetary Interaction (PI) alt character for your main account in about 12 days with the goal of earning semi-passive, low-risk income in high security space to support your more exciting activities in Eve Online. This guide will provide the skill plan to follow, estimated amount of money needed to start, and estimates of how much money you can expect to make. Although this guide will not cover the actual way to conduct PI, the Uniwiki has some well-written pages on how to get started and set up your planets. Additionally, Seamus Donohue of EVE University has made some wonderful training videos on YouTube, which I encourage you to watch to learn the process.
Introduction
Planetary Interaction is an excellent way to make money since the skills required are relatively easy to attain and the startup costs aren't very high. There are three character slots on every Eve account and it is a missed opportunity to not do something useful with all of them. Since only one character can be trained at a time per account, you must forfeit training time on your main--unless you purchase PLEX to enable multiple characters to train concurrently. The most challenging part of PI is the actual process, which, like most everything else in Eve, can have a steep learning curve. However, once you've developed a good technique for maintaining your planetary colonies, making a decent income from them becomes routine and fairly simple.
This plan will provide you with a character capable of the following in 12-1/2 days with attribute remaps:
- A PI character that can run five planets with basic scanning and decent upgrade abilities
- Gallente industrial pilot skill to three (III) to haul your delicious goods to market
- Basic navigation skills so you can fly around a little quicker
- Basic trade skills to sell several orders with slightly less taxes to "the Man"
What's The Big Idea?
The general concept of this plan is intended to:
- Manufacture enough materials from your planets to provide an income for your main character to spend as you see fit (or with wild abandon!)
- Pay for itself and still make money for your main. The cost of PI is pretty high in high-sec, but will turn a profit; this plan gets even more lucrative if you can safely run your colonies in lowsec or nullsec
- Be over quickly. The training plan is 12 days for a reason, which is that your main is losing time waiting. This is a bare minimum plan that gives your toon only what he needs to serve his Main character master
The Alt PI Training Plan
Alright, so you've randomized your way through the character creator, and have a fat wad of cash in your new alt's account (see financing below). Now it's time to be careful and patient. This plan is predicated on using both remaps you'll have available. Scary, yes, but remember this toon is just for PI, nothing more. If you do decide to train this character further, you'll be maxed on Intelligence, which isn't too terrible. You certainly don't have to remap, either, it will just take about 14-1/2 days instead of 12.
Purchase the following books:
- Command Center Upgrades
- Interplanetary Consolidation
- Remote Sensing
- Planetology
- Capacitor Systems Operation
- Capacitor Management
- Energy Grid Upgrades
- Electronics Upgrades
- Long Range Targeting
- Target Management
- Signature Analysis
- Evasive Maneuvering
- Warp Drive Operation
- Hull Upgrades
- Shield Management
- Afterburner
- Fuel Conservation
- Trade
- Retail
- Broker Relations
- Racial Industrial (get your character's race, as you will already have the Frigate prerequisite for that ship type to level II)
Once you have these books, it's time to queue up! The following plan is based on two remaps, which will result in a completed plan in 12 days and some hours (you'll already have Science III and Racial Frigate II):
First Remap
Maximize Charisma and put the rest into Intelligence
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Command Center Upgrades I Command Center Upgrades II Command Center Upgrades III Command Center Upgrades IV Interplanetary Consolidation I Interplanetary Consolidation II Interplanetary Consolidation III Interplanetary Consolidation IV
Second Remap
Maximize Intelligence, add one point to Memory, and the rest into Perception
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Remote Sensing I Remote Sensing II Remote Sensing III Planetology I Planetology II Planetology III Energy Grid Upgrades II Long Range Targeting II Target Management II Target Management III Signature Analysis II Signature Analysis III Evasive Maneuvering II Evasive Maneuvering III Warp Drive Operation II Mechanics III Hull Upgrades III Shield Management II Shield Management III Fuel Conservation I Fuel Conservation II Retail I Retail II Broker Relations I Broker Relations II
In addition to the above skills you should train one of the following. Note that the Gallente Epithal is the only industrial that has a hold specifically for PI materials, and at Gallente Industrial I it will hold at 49,500 m3, much more than any other T1 industrial. You will not be able to put command centers in the specialized hold.
Amarr Industrial
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Amarr Industrial I Amarr Industrial II Amarr Industrial III
Caldari Industrial
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Caldari Industrial I Caldari Industrial II Caldari Industrial III
Gallente Industrial
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Gallente Industrial I Gallente Industrial II Gallente Industrial III
Minmatar Industrial
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Minmatar Industrial I Minmatar Industrial II Minmatar Industrial III
You may note that Target Management, Signature Analysis, and Long Range Targeting aren't necessarily required, as well as Retail. The skill plan was based on using Evemon and selecting a Core Basic Certificate and Basic Trade Certificate so your character could mount the Expanded Cargohold IIs, some basic shields, and have enough slots on the market to buy and sell a bit. It's up to you whether you want to train those skills. As the plan is so amazingly short, I left them there in the event I decided to use my alt as a spy and trading alt. You could (and probably should) replace them with Shield Operations, if you're so inclined. If you are more concerned with speed, this plan can certainly be tweaked with High Speed Maneuvering and Acceleration Control to level II, but try to keep it under 13 days, otherwise your main may start to feel neglected, and you'll have missed the point!
How To Use Your New Character
If you've followed this plan, you just spent between 11-15 days training up your alt. So, first things first: Restart training your main character! (The first time I did this, I opened up Evemon to see an empty training queue on one of my mains. That was painful.)
Also, keep in mind that just because you aren't training your main doesn't mean you can't play with your main. Get out there and be useful, as your new character may need some more scratch to get good colonies set up. Anyway, back to your new PI toon...
You'll notice that after your racial Industrial training, you could technically start PI farming, and you should. The rest of the skills are the icing on the cake that will speed you up and make you feel a little safer flying through space with a cargo full of goods that sell for millions.
If you are particularly strapped for isk, start with one planet. After making 5-6 million isk worth of materials, export them and sell them on the market. This will give you the money to set up your second planet. A planet with two basic industrial facilities, one advanced industrial facility, a launchpad, two extractors, and a command center with a level four upgrade (the max you'll be able to upgrade with this character), will cost between 5-6 million isk, which does account for upgrading to the highest level of skill (IV). You'll note also that taxes are quite high, but when you finally sell a month's worth of goods, it won't be so bad.
Once you have enough money, you can simply set up all five planets and let them go nuts. A P1/P2 manufacturing plan will yield somewhere between 2500-3500 units of P2 material a month (3,600 units if you run it perfectly, assuming 30-day months). If you have set up your planets to extract balanced amounts of P0 materials, then your advanced facility should be able to run non-stop all day, every day. This isn't terribly easy, however, as you will need to occasionally tweak your extractors to not gather an over- or under-abundance of one P0 material, and not run out of a P1 product and hold up production. Regardless, the goal is to keep your advanced facility running at all times, and then sell your processed P2 materials (like Coolant, for example) once or twice a month. If you live in nullsec or wormholes, you may have to export more often due to having more resources to extract and process (I honestly don't know, I haven't lived in nullsec or WHs yet). This doesn't mean you can't make more advanced materials, like Hazmat Detection Subsystems. The plan simply considers export only and to not have to spend more isk on imports for the more advanced products. That is a financial decision you must make.
The Dollars and Cents
As stated earlier, this is a plan for quickly creating a character able to contribute to your overall budget needs. And what can you reasonably expect? Well, based on rough estimates of the current Eve market in early 2012, P2 products go for around 7000-9000 isk/unit. So, if you were to export approximately 3,000 units of P2 products from each planet that averaged 8,000 isk on the market, then you would see the following results, assuming 10% taxes from exporting initially:
3,000 units*8,000 isk*0.9 (for export taxes) = ~21,600,000 isk
With sales fees and taxes, this number will be closer to 20,952,000 isk. The nice thing is, this is for one planet:
20,952,000*5 planets = 104,760,000 isk per month
If you choose to consolidate your manufactured goods with a main who has good trading skills, this number will increase slightly. If you decide to take the time to train your second alt character as well, then you can expect to double this number. If you choose to train your main as well, then you could see over 314 million isk a month (please note: these are estimates only, based on current prices and personal experience).
It should be noted that these numbers will be lower due to colony reorganization, including deleting and moving extractors to the best resources, adding storage and basic production units, and clicking "accidents."
The Price of Greed
"So how much will this cost me?" you may ask. Not much, in my opinion, and it also depends. Five million isk will pay for all the skill books and leave enough left over to buy your command centers (81,000 to 87,000 isk in April 2019) and an industrial hauler that is needed to haul the massive Command Centers (1,000 m3 each). This leaves a little left over for building the colony, which costs an additional five million a planet. If you are willing to start small, you can finance your own operation by using the sales of your first planet's materials to fund more advanced operations, and additional planets (this is starting slow, but a perfectly good plan that will be maxed in no time).
Financing is also available either by doing the tutorials or use your main character to pay for the alt character's training. The tutorials can provide about 4-5 million isk and a couple industrial ships, but can be time consuming. Transferring funds from your main character is faster, simply locate your alt using the People & Places tool, right click the character's icon, and choose "Give Money". If your main has 30 million isk to give to your alt, you'll fully fund your alt's training and initial operations, and the investment will pay itself off rather quickly once all five planets are up and running. And, of course, you can have your alt run distribution missions, as you'll have them piloting a nice flying cargohold.
Of course, there are an infinite number of ways to set up planets, including factory planets, which I haven't tried and would be vastly more expensive. This plan, however, calls for a simple P2 production plan. Be sure to adjust your numbers accordingly, based on how you operate.
Thinking Big
So, do you go for it or not?
There are some definite advantages and disadvantages to having a PI alt. On the one hand, you will be providing yourself with a significant increase in isk, especially as a newer player. Also, if you or someone in your corp is an industrialist, you could be supplying you or your corp with free or cheap POS fuel, ship building components, etc. In fact, a single player running this system with all three characters could easily fuel his or her own POS! If you run more than one account, you can potentially be making enough to pay for PLEXs, thus keeping your accounts paying for themselves. Finally, once the plan is complete and your alt is producing, you can get back to more interesting activities.
On the other hand, there are drawbacks. PI can be difficult to maintain and keep an interest in. All that clicking and strategizing can get tiring pretty quickly, and more than one industrialist has let their struggling colonies die due to boredom. If you have multiple accounts, and each character has multiple planet skills, you can spend a lot of time managing something in game that isn't very satisfying from a game play point of view. You may want to space out your activity so you only have to check a dozen planets every other day. Finally, highsec PI is the least lucrative PI, since the taxes are so high. A lot more isk could be made in wormhole space or nullsec PI, but this training plan gives you a character that could be easily killed outside of highsec space.
Summary of reasons to consider creating a PI alt
- PI can make you a lot of money with little effort.
- Once you complete training on one or two characters, you never have to do it again and will always have extra money coming in. You can never have enough isk.
- All the clicking gets pretty quick once you figure out the game mechanics.
- 10% tax on 20 million isn't too terrible if you want to balance risk vs. reward.
- The training plan is very quick, and relatively painless.
Conclusion and Final Thoughts
PI can be a great way to make some extra money. The training plan explained above takes less than half a month. The ability to run five extra planets per character can benefit in both isk and industrial mats that can be used in manufacturing. The process of setting up colonies and running them is pretty low. The risk in high sec is very low. The potential of running lucrative planets in lowsec or nullsec is very high, if dangerous. The more characters you have running planets, the more isk you'll make. Like any other job in Eve, it isn't perfect, but the plan is as efficient as I can make it.
