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− | '''Bookmarks''' are used to identify unique locations in space so they can be easily returned to. Bookmarks do not need to be associated with an actual in-game object, and are often used to mark locations far from surrounding celestial objects.
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− | {{related class|Bookmarking 101}}
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− | == Where do we use bookmarks and why do we need them? == | + | Draft editing is been done at [[User:Evon R'al/Draft]] |
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− | In EVE, celestial objects and star bases are defined by coordinates in our current maps. Other than those locations already defined in astrometry charts, there could be other locations which you may want to save so that you can return later. Bookmarks are used to identify those locations in-game.
| + | {{related class|Bookmarks (CORE class)}} |
| + | A '''bookmark''' is a saved location, either of a "spot" (coordinate bookmark) or an "object" (object bookmark). Bookmarks can be used to warp to (when in the same system) or to add the location to the route waypoint list. Bookmarks can be personal (private) or shared. |
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− | [[Image:SolarSystemCelestials.jpg]]
| + | == Common uses == |
| + | There are many types of bookmarks, but all capsuleers should at least have some basic bookmarks to travel in space safely and avoid traps or hunts. Depending on your role or operation you could extend your repertoire to various bookmarks. |
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− | === Bookmarks for Various Roles! === | + | === Safe spot === |
| + | {{See also|Safe spots}} |
| + | Safe spot bookmarks are one of the most important ways to use bookmarks. Safe spots are locations in space away from all charted entities. The only way to find someone in a safe spot and warp to that location is by using scan probes. Although you can be seen in a directional scan, you cannot be followed unless someone scans your location with probes. |
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− | A miner ship has a limited cargo hold for ore. So, miners usually collect ore in a can and leave it in space. After they deplete the source, they return to their base of operation and come back with a hauler to haul the can. These cans are objects floating in space and if you don’t bookmark their location you cannot return to them and collect your ore.
| + | There are three basic types of safe spots. |
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− | Salvaging is one of the most profitable operations in the EVE universe. During your agent missions, you will probably leave lots of wrecks behind after engagements. A ship fitted with both PvE and salvage equipment will not be an efficient way to complete missions. Most mission runners bookmark their wrecks, complete their missions, and return to bookmarks for salvaging with a dedicated salvage ship.
| + | '''Mid-point safes''' are the simplest and least secure form of safes. Create a bookmark while warping between two celestials. It is fairly easy to get the approximate position of a midpoint safe by using [[directional scanner]] which makes them easier to probe. A determined pilot can even locate mid-point safes with the directional scanner and mid warp bookmarks. |
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− | If you are in PvP or military operations, a direct approach to any celestial object could create potential risks. You could end up in a trap, be easily hunted down, and killed. For that reason, there are sets of tactical bookmarks used for this kind of situation. There are also observation bookmarks, safe spots in space, bookmarks for blockade running from a station, and instant warp-out bookmarks.
| + | [[File:MidSafeMethod.jpg|thumb|Example of unaligned safe that has been made with one mid-point safe and a celestial.]] |
| + | '''Unaligned safes''' are considerably more secure than mid-point safes. These spots are not in alignment between two celestial objects. Unaligned safes can be made by either bookmarking signatures/mission sites or by creating a safe spot while warping from between a mid-point safe and another location. |
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− | Whether you are a miner, explorer, a combat capsuleer, or just a traveler, you will be in need of bookmarks for various reasons. From the first days of your capsuleer life you could start creating your own bookmarks without needing to train any skills at all.
| + | '''Deep safes''' are the most secure form of safe spots. Usually, a safe is considered to be deep safe if it is more than 14 AU from any celestial and is not in between celestials. This makes it impossible to be seen with the directional scanner. Proper deep safes can be hard to make. The following are the three most common methods: |
| + | * [[Incursions|Sansha's Nation incursion]] sites spawn far enough to be used as deep safes. |
| + | * [[Sleeper Cache]]s can spawn more than 14 AU from the nearest celestial. |
| + | * [[Abyssal Deadspace]] can be exploited to make deep safes. |
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− | == How do we create bookmarks? ==
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− | There are three ways of creating bookmarks. The first is to use the "[[People & Places]]" window and go to the "Places" tab. Select "Add Location" at the bottom and you will bookmark the location you are presently at in space.
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| + | * The old probe scanning system could be used to warp to an arbitrarily far location. This allowed making bookmarks that were hundreds or thousands of AU away. The safes nowadays called deep are just a pale imitation of the deep safes of the past.}} |
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− | [[Image:CPlacesWindow.jpg]]
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− | The other way is to either right-click an item in space or on your overview and select “Save Location”.
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− | [[Image:CCanBookmark.jpg]]
| + | Never warp to within 'zero' of your safe spot. This will reduce your chance of being detected or compromising your safe spot location. And always move rather than sit still, so even if your location is known your adversaries will not be able to land to you at zero. |
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− | The only difference between these methods is that using the first method bookmarks your ship's current position in space while the second method bookmarks another entity's location in space. You can bookmark cans, POS (Player Owned Station), wrecks, and various site locations found during core probing.
| + | === Salvage === |
− | | + | Wrecks can not be scanned down. If you wish to return to the battlefield you will need to bookmark the location before you leave. |
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− | You can bookmark many entities in space, but if the location of the item is changed by force or is destroyed, the bookmark will only indicate the original location coordinates.
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− | The 'Add location' command works both when you are at a dead stop or while moving - including warping. '''The coordinates you bookmark will indicate the exact location when you click the 'Submit' button and confirm the bookmark.'''
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− | One exception to the above occurs if you open the 'Add location' window in a station. If you undock and use that 'Add location' window in space, the bookmark will be set at the station and NOT at the point in space you were at when 'ok' was clicked.
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− | The third and quickest method for adding a book mark is to use the short cut keys to bring up the "New Location Window".
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− | [[Image:NewLocationWindow.jpg]]
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− | The default short cut for doing this is "CTRL+B" and this only works when in space. The window functions in the same way as going via the "Add Location Button" in the "People & Places" window.
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− | === Tips & Tricks: ===
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− | Don’t try to write labels and notes in stressful situations - just take the necessary bookmark. The client will give an automatic label to the bookmark. You can even use the same label for different bookmarks. Because their coordinates are different, they won’t overwrite each other.
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− | == Bookmarks in Space ==
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− | With the release of Phoebe in November 2014 bookmarks now appear in space by default. Personal bookmarks look like a small pin. Corporate bookmarks appear as a small pin with a star on the top.
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− | [[Image:BookMarksInSpace.jpg]]
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− | == Types of Bookmarks ==
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− | There are many types of bookmarks, but all capsuleers should at least have some basic bookmarks to travel in space safely and avoid traps or hunts. Depending on your role or operation you could extend your repertoire to various bookmarks.
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− | === Station Undock ===
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− | Stations come in various sizes and types. For every station there is a different undock location where all ships undock at the same point. This is a constant location where all ships enter space. If you bookmark your location at the very moment you undock you will end up with an undock location bookmark for that station. This bookmark is used to camp people undocking from that station. If you want to engage or catch some one undocking from a station you camp this bookmark to catch that target in optimal range. Also this is an offensive bookmark; it is strongly advised to be collected for every capsuleer.
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− | === Instant warp-out ===
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− | An instant warp-out bookmark is used to safely exit a station in hostile space. Pirates or various enemies can "camp" a station's undock location. With the help of various fits they could instantly lock and warp-disrupt/scram your ship. Instant warp-out bookmarks are used to run from these blockades using undock mechanics and a bookmark placed at a distance at least 150 km away from your undock location in a straight direction.
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− | When you undock you leave the station aligned to a constant direction '' moving at your maximum velocity''. In theory, if you place a bookmark at least 150 km away aligned to this direction you could warp out almost instantly to this bookmark without being target-locked. There are two ways to create such a bookmark.
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− | The first one is easy and (a bit) dirty.
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− | You use a fast frigate or an interceptor with a MWD (micro-warp drive) fitted and as soon as you undock hit your MWD without changing your alignment. Put some distance between you and the station - at least 150 km - and take the bookmark of the new location.
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− | This is a bit of an outdated method as your direction is slightly random each time you undock. You might not immediately enter warp but have to align a bit first.
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− | The second one is the thorough one and gives nearly perfect undock bookmarks.
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− | There are two pretty easy ways to get a near perfect undock bookmark, depending on whether the station undocks you horizontally or vertically, both using your tactical overlay:
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− | Most (but not quite all) horizontally undocking stations are aligned directly along one of the 'compass lines' that display when your tactical overlay is active. Adjust your camera so that you're looking almost straight down that compass line (you can't do it directly down one because your ship would be in the way) and double click where that row of numbers disappears into the horizon. That should be the main direction of station undocks, and get you a bookmark you can warp to instantly.
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− | On a vertically-undocking station, select the station so it is in your Selected Items box, then a line will display on your tactical overlay showing you exactly where the station is horizontally relative to your position. Once you go off grid this line will disappear, but the bright spot where it intersects your horizontal plain will still be visible even then. Keep flying downwards and adjusting your direction slightly so that the bright spot remains as close to your ship as possible, and you've got yourself a perfectly aligned undock bookmark.
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− | ==== Important ====
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− | Always use different distances for your instant warp-out bookmark. If you use always same distance, they can wait for you there as a trap.
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− | ==== Tips & Tricks ====
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− | Try to create off-grid instant warp-out bookmarks so that you cannot be detected instantly and followed. Always try not to warp at 0 to protect the exact location of your bookmark.
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| === Instadock === | | === Instadock === |
| + | When you warp to any location your ship will land approximately 2500 meters away from the target. On stations, this means that you can land outside of the docking range and are vulnerable to ganks as you approach the station. This is especially dangerous at trade hubs where gankers may try to kill you. Instadock bookmarks solve this issue. |
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− | Warping to a station never takes you to the exact location where you can dock right away. Sometimes you may have to approach the station a bit closer and wait several seconds between the docking request and the actual docking. This waiting time can be fatal, especially at stations which are likely to get camped, e.g. trading hubs. An instadock bookmark is used for docking nearly instantly after you get out of warp, thus providing you with much more safety.
| + | An instadock bookmark is simply a bookmark that is placed at least 2500 meters inside of the docking range. One common way of creating an instadock bookmark is by undocking from a station and saving the location immediately or while the overview says that you are within 0 meters of that station. Instadock bookmarks can be used in combination with the autopilot. Set the target station as your destination and warp to the instadock bookmark. Enable autopilot after entering the warp. As soon as you land on the bookmark your autopilot will automatically dock your ship. |
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− | You should create an instadock bookmark by approaching a station and bookmarking your location when you are within a range of 2500 meters, e.g. right after bouncing off the station itself. One such bookmark per station is enough, no matter from which direction you warp in. For a safe instadock, you can then warp to your bookmark and spam the "Dock" button right after you fall out of warp or mark a station as your destination and use autopilot after warping to a bookmark manually.
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| You can find a demonstration video on Youtube: [https://youtu.be/aKmn3rabMac Staying Safe - Insta-Docks]. | | You can find a demonstration video on Youtube: [https://youtu.be/aKmn3rabMac Staying Safe - Insta-Docks]. |
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− | === Safe Spots === | + | === Insta-undock === |
| + | When you undock from a station your ship will be moving at maximum velocity towards a certain direction. By having a bookmark far in that direction it is possible to instantly warp off after undocking.<br> |
| + | The most common way of making an instaundock is to use a very fast MWD frigate. Undock from the station and burn away. It is also possible to use mid-warp bookmarks, celestial alignment or lucky signatures. The instaundock bookmark should ideally be far enough from the station so that it is not on the same grid. This way you will disappear from their overview after warping to it.<br> |
| + | It should be noted that the ship heading has a small random variance on undock. |
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− | Safe spot bookmarks are one of the most important and creative ways to use bookmarks. Safe spots are locations in space away from all charted entities. The only way to find someone in a safe spot and warp to that location is by using scan probes. Although you can be seen in a directional scan, you cannot be followed unless someone scans your location with probes.
| + | Using instaundocks is not recommended for slow ships. A well placed combat prober will be able to probe a slow ship at the landing position before the slow ship is able to warp away. |
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− | There are three basic types of safe spots.
| + | === Tactical === |
| + | Tactical bookmarks are bookmarks that are on grid with a point of interest (such as station or stargate) but far enough that hostiles on the grid will not be a danger to you and [[Tackling#Warp disruption fields|drag bubbles]] will not drag you. They should be at minimum 200 km away so that warping between the target and the bookmark is always possible.<br> |
| + | Tactical bookmarks can be used to check the target grid before warping in or to prey on passing by ships, ready to warp in as soon as the victim arrives.[[File:TacticalBookmarkLayout.gif|thumb|Tactical bookmarks placed around a gate. Click to see animation.]] |
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− | ==== Mid-Point Safe Spots ====
| + | Tactical bookmarks "above" or "below" the target can also be used for bypassing bubbles. |
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− | When you are traveling between celestial objects, you can click on 'add bookmark' and take bookmarks while warping. Bookmarks created this way are called mid-point safe spots. It is the basic way to create a safe spot in a system.
| + | Tactical bookmarks can also be used for fast repositioning on grid. The recommended layout for a Tactical PvP Bookmark Setup is the classic 3 axes, 4 points per axes, with 150km separating each Bookmark Point. With this layout, almost every point around a designated area (eg. Jump Gate, POS, Station...) in a radius of 300km can be reached, allowing fast position changes as well as the famous "50km Warp" known to be the smallest distance a ship can warp to. if you have a target 50 km away and a tactical bookmark 200 km behind them you can warp to the bookmark at 150 km and land right on top of the target. |
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− | ==== Unaligned Safe spots ====
| + | The fastest way to create a Tactically Bookmarked Location would be the combined use of Micro Jump Drives (MJD) and Micro Warp Drives (MWD), although it was rarely used in the middle of a fleet fight, these could allow fast creation of such Bookmarks in those situations. |
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− | Mid-point safe spots are somewhere between the alignment of two celestial objects and it is easy to spot or find someone at a location like this. The much safer locations are unaligned safe spots. These spots are not in an alignment between two celestial objects.
| + | ''Ender's View of Tactical bookmarks''<br> |
| + | For those who are a fan of the book ''Ender's Game'':<br> |
| + | While at first glance, an undocking ship appears to travel in a straight line, remember this is space and the orientation is in the eye of the beholder. Accordingly, Ender would articulate that when you undock, you are really "falling". Thus, the bookmark behind the undock point represents the High Ground of any combat situation. (If you want to see it in practice, imagine someone is shooting at you from behind the station the next time you undock; try to turn around and burn towards the hypothetical aggressor, and enjoy getting stuck bumping into the station.) |
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− | There are two ways to create unaligned safe spots.
| + | Once you have established this collection of bookmarks around a station, you can extend the thinking to key stargates within the system. The "high ground" of a stargate is either the path that is furthest away from the sun or furthest away from your home station. |
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− | The first method is to bookmark dead space pockets when you are running missions in a system. Dead space pockets are created randomly and are very hard to find. When you are running missions, always create bookmarks as safe spots.
| + | === Bubbling === |
| + | Finding a good spot for a warp disruption bubble takes time. So if you think you may be camping the same stargate in the future, you will want to save the location where you want your bubble to be. |
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− | [[Image:UnAlignedSafeSpots.jpg]]
| + | == Limits == |
| + | The number of bookmarks that a player can have is limited. |
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− | The second method is to create an unaligned safe spot by using two mid-point safe spots. First, create two different mid-point safe spots. Then, create another mid-point safe spot between those two mid-point safe spots. Then you will have an unaligned safe spot.
| + | * Each personal bookmark [[#Locations window|folder]] can contain 3,000 bookmarks. |
| + | ** You can have up to 30 personal bookmark folders ([[#Folder status|online + offline]]) |
| + | ** You can have up to five personal bookmark folders online at once. |
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− | [[Image:MidSafeMethod.jpg]] | + | * Each shared bookmark folder can contain 500 bookmarks. |
| + | ** You can be [[#Folder status|connected]] to up to 30 shared bookmark folders (online + offline) |
| + | ** You can have up to three shared bookmark folders online at once. |
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− | ===== Tips & Tricks =====
| + | * Bookmarks in shared folders become usable 2 minutes after being added. |
| + | * Changes to shared bookmark folder access take up to 5 minutes to apply. |
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− | If your safe spot is out of the maximum on-board scanning range, you cannot be detected by a directional scan. To easily confirm that, warp to your safe spot and use your directional scanner at maximum range. If you find nothing, nothing is in directional scan range.
| + | == Create == |
| + | [[File:NewLocation.png|thumb|New Location (bookmark) window.]] |
| + | Bookmarks are created through the New Location window The window has the following fields: |
| + | * '''Label''' - The name of the bookmark. Pre-filled with for |
| + | ** coordinate bookmarks - "Spot in <''System name''> solar system" |
| + | ** object bookmarks - the name of the object |
| + | * '''Notes''' - Optional field for notes about the bookmark <!-- Appears to be only visible in the new and edit window --> |
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− | Never warp to within 'zero' of your safe spot, and always move rather than sitting still. This will reduce your chance of being detected or compromising your safe spot location.
| + | {{Important note box| |
| + | Don’t try to write labels and notes in stressful situations - just save the bookmark. |
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− | Catching a good point somewhere close to the middle is difficult using the normal space view. Switch to the 'map' screen. Observe the celestial objects and define the most deviated alignments in different axes to create your mid-points. As soon as you initiate warp to your target, watch your location closely and catch a good mid-point from the map screen. Because your velocity varies during the warp sequence, if you do not check your map screen, you will end up very close to the celestial.
| + | * '''Folder''' - A selection list with the available (sub-)folders where the bookmark will be saved. The folder of the last saved bookmark is kept as the active selection |
| + | * '''Expiry''' - The automatic delete time. Choose an option by selecting the corresponding radio button. The setting of the last saved bookmark is kept on a per folder base |
| + | ** Never |
| + | ** In 2 Days |
| + | ** In 3 Hours |
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− | ===== Important =====
| + | Bookmarks are saved when the {{Button|Submit}} button is clicked. When saving a coordinate bookmark the saved coordinates are from the position the ship is in when the button is clicked, even when in mid-move/warp. Object bookmarks save the coordinates from the object regardless of where your ship is. |
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− | Unaligned safe spots are pretty safe, but there is always a chance that you could be pinpointed by probe scanning. The longer you stay in a safe spot, the chance of being pinpointed increases exponentially. Even if you are far away from any celestials and out of maximum on-board scanning range, your existence could be confirmed by your appearance in the local chat channels in high and low security space.
| + | '''Tips and tricks''' |
| + | [[File:Warning existing location.png|thumb|Warning existing object bookmark]] |
| + | * Probes in space can be bookmarked, useful for creating perches on gates for example. See [[Bookmarking probes]] |
| + | * {{Co|Yellow|Important:}} When an object is destroyed or moved the bookmark still points to the original position |
| + | * Expiry can not be edited, but it can be canceled. |
| + | * The same label can be used for multiple bookmarks. Identical labels will <em>not</em> overwrite each other. |
| + | * Creating a second bookmark of the same object will cause a warning. If the warning is ignored a new bookmark is created for that object. |
| + | * Opening the New Location window when docked will start the creation of an object bookmark. This will not change when undocking |
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− | ==== Observation Bookmarks ==== | + | === Open the New Location window ===<!-- Full text because of multiple open the XXX window sections --> |
| + | The window can be opened in several ways: |
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− | Observation bookmarks are used for tactical observation of star bases, POS, and gates. Before you warp to a gate or a base, you may want to scan and check your destination from an off-grid location for any camps or targets you are hunting. In this situation, observation bookmarks are used to scan the destination for possible targets or camps from a safe distance.
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− | | + | * Open the [[#Open the Locations window|Locations]] window and click the Add Location button. |
− | Tactical Bookmarks around a station represent an important category of Observation Bookmarks. When entering a new system for the first time, you should build a simple library of bookmarks around your home station. Ideally, you should fit a fast frigate to establish the bookmarks.
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− | At a minimum, 16 bookmarks are recommended. The undock path is used as the starting point to describe the other bookmarks:
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− | Three "Insta-Undocks" (One on-grid, one off-grid, and one that "bends the grid").
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− | Two bookmarks that represent Insta-DOCKs immediately above and below the station.
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− | Two more bookmarks further above and below the station, respectively.
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− | Two bookmarks to the left and right (port and starboard) of the undock path, respectively.
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− | Two red bookmarks immediately behind the undock path.
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− | One "safe spot" bookmark at an off grid spot situated in a random direction away from the station.
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− | To do this properly, it should take a UNISTA about 30 minutes. However, once established, a UNISTA can now warp around the area at ease using this collection of tactical bookmarks.
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− | ===== Ender's View of Observation Bookmarks =====
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− | While at first glance an undocking ship appears to travel in a straight line, remember this is space and the orientation is in the eye of the beholder. Accordingly, Ender would articulate that when you undock, you are really "falling." Thus, the bookmark behind the undock point represent the High Ground of any combat situation. (If you want to see it in practice, imagine someone is shooting at you from behind the station the next time you undock, try to turn around and burn towards the hypothetical aggressor, and enjoy getting stuck bumping into the station.)
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− | Once you have established this collection of bookmarks around a station, you can extend the thinking to key stargates within the system. The "high ground" of a stargate is either the path that is furthest away from the sun or furthest away from your home station.
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− | === Tactical Bookmarks ===
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− | In the same layout as the Observation Bookmarks, one can use Tactical Bookmarks for a PvP usage in Low Security Systems, Null Sec Systems and Wormhole Space. The recommended layout for a Tactical PvP Bookmark Setup is the classic 3 axes, 4 point per axes, with 150km separating each Bookmark Point. With this layout, a Fleet Commander, or yourself, can warp to various different positions depending on the situation and the fleets compositions.
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− | With this layout, almost every point around a designated area (eg. Jump Gate, POS, Station...) in a radius of 300km can be reached, allowing fast position changes as well as the famous "50km Warp" known to be the smallest distance a ship can warp to.
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− | ===== How to Tactical Bookmarks =====
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− | The fastest way to create a Tactically Bookmarked Location would be the combined use of Micro Jump Drives (MJD) and Micro Warp Drives (MWD), although it was rarely used in the middle of a fleet fight, these could allow fast creation of such Bookmarks in those situations. The recommended layout for a Tactical PvP Bookmark Setup is the classic 3 axes, 4 point per axes, with 150km separating each Bookmark Point. This creates 12 points that can be warped to from any other point in the layout. Because that ship cannot warp if the target location is closer than 150km range, it is recommended to even make them at a little more than 150km.
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− | More Points in the layout allows more mobility and precision to the desired warp location.
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− | ===== Usage of Tactical Bookmarks =====
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− | The 150km minimum range doesn't apply to the "Warp at..." option, allowing a pilot to make a 50km warp if warping to a target location at 150km range using the "Warp at 100km" option.
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− | Because of the fact that there are 7 "Warp at..." options, a pilot or a Fleet Commander can virtually arrive at any locations inside the Tactically Bookmarked Location.
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− | Also, beside the realigning time, there is no cooldown on the warp, this allows pilots to move freely between the different layout points to get closer, or farther, to their targets upon landing. Using Warp instead of a MWD, for anything bigger than a destroyer, is faster for distances above 50km on most of the situations, making Tactical Bookmarks a more important tool for non-frigates.
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− | The gif belows shows a classic double warp use of the tactical bookmarks to reach a target.
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− | [[File:TacticalBookmarkUse2.gif]]
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− | ==== Tips & Tricks ====
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− | In general, solar systems mostly rest on a plane. Try to create observation points perpendicular to the alignment of this plane (above and below). This will reduce the probability of being detected by chance.
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− | As time goes by you will create a lot of bookmarks and if you don’t organize and manage them, you will mess them up. This section presents some basic techniques you can use to avoid that. The following are not strict rules. They are, however, built upon solid experience. In time, you should feel free to develop your own style and system.
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− | === Labeling bookmarks ===
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− | The most important part of organizing your bookmarks is labeling. In stressful situations, you have to be able to recognize the right bookmark and use it in an instant. Therefore, your bookmark labels need to have a standard, easily recognizable format. It is important to create - and use - an efficient way to label your bookmarks from the beginning. You will thank yourself in the future.
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− | You may also use folders to organize your bookmarks.
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− | Before labeling your bookmarks, you should familiarize yourself with the information stored with your bookmarks in the Places tab of the People & Places window.
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− | [[Image:Labels.jpg]]
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− | As you can see in the above illustration, each bookmark automatically contains the following information:
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− | ! Label:
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− | | The label is the name you assign to your bookmark
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− | ! Type:
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− | | Type of the bookmark (for example "Station" or "Coordinate")
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− | ! Jump:
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− | | Indicates current number of jumps away from the solar system the bookmark is placed in
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− | ! Sol:
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− | | Solar System the bookmark is placed in
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− | ! Con:
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− | | Constellation the bookmark is placed in
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− | ! Reg:
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− | | Region the bookmark is placed in
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− | ! Date:
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− | | Indicates the date of creation of the bookmark
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− | Avoid using these details in your bookmarks to simplify their labels. Also, you can arrange the location of the columns according to your choice.
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− | ==== Example: the Agony style ====
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− | In this subsection we will discuss and summarize the [http://www.agony-unleashed.com/wiki/index.php?title=Bookmarks#Labeling_Bookmarks Agony Unleashed style]. This style may seem a bit complex at first, but after some practice it becomes very clear and easy to recognize and use.
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− | This is not a complete documentation of the style - please refer to the [http://www.agony-unleashed.com/wiki/index.php?title=Bookmarks original article] for details.
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− | Basically, the Agony style is based around the concept of using different brackets to define the type of the bookmark (the object or place relates to.) Some of the brackets used in the style contain multiple characters - so-called composite brackets. The different brackets are as follows:
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− | ! Brackets
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− | | Station
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− | | '''[''' ''label'' ''']'''
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− | | Planet
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− | | POS
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− | | Cargo can
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− | | Safespot
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− | | '''<nowiki>|--</nowiki>''' ''label'' '''<nowiki>--|</nowiki>'''
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− | | Tactical
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− | | '''<nowiki>|></nowiki>''' ''label'' '''<nowiki><|</nowiki>'''
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− | Apart from the brackets, the style uses two special symbols. The <span style="color: olive;">@</span> symbol is used to describe distance from the preceding object, and the <span style="color: olive;">%</span> symbol is used to describe the alignment of the bookmark.
| + | For object bookmarks |
| + | * Use the right-click option Save Location on an object (some objects, like ships, can not be saved and thus do not have the option) |
| + | ** This option will work on, among others, - brackets in space - objects in the overview - objects in the market window - objects in the agent mission offer window - linked objects and agents in chat , mail and the notebook, anomalies and fully identified (green - 100%) signatures in the probe window and more. |
| + | * Use the radial menu. The push-pin on the second level. |
| + | * Open the Locations window and click the Add Location button (Only when docked). |
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− | <br>
| + | == Share == |
| + | [[File:Locations-New Folder-Shared.png|thumb|New Folder window]] |
| + | [[File:BookMarksInSpace.jpg|thumb|Personal and shared bookmarks have different icons in space.]] |
| + | Bookmarks are shared by placing them in a shared folder. For the bookmarks to be available the folder must be connected. |
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− | ===== Stations =====
| + | Access to a shared folder is governed by [[Access List]]s. Before creating a shared folder at least one access list must exist to be used for the folder. |
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− | Station bookmarks, undock bookmarks and instant warp-out bookmarks use the following syntax: <span style="color: olive;">Tag [Prefix: Planet-Moon-Suffix @Distance]</span>
| + | Shared folders have four different levels of access. Higher access levels include all the features of lower access levels. |
| + | # '''View access''': View folder and contents, and use locations. |
| + | # '''Use access''': Add locations, edit/delete own locations, copy locations, create sub-folders, edit/delete own sub-folders. |
| + | # '''Manage access''': Edit/delete all locations and all sub-folders. |
| + | # '''Admin access''': Rename/delete/ the folder and access management<ref group=Note>5 August 2024: The in-game help has this as "Edit Access Lists" but this is not correct. Edit permission for an access list is controlled by the list itself. What is meant here is the permission to assign access lists to an access level.</ref>. Additionally, connect to the shared folder without a connection link. |
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− | *Tag can be <span style="color: olive;">IWO</span> (for Instant Warp-Out bookmarks) or <span style="color: olive;">UNDOCK</span> - or otherwise omitted
| + | === Connection link === |
− | *Prefix is up to you (optional)
| + | Non "Admin access" users need a connection link to connect to a shared folder. To create a connection link drag the shared folder into chat, a chat channels MOTD or EVE mail. Clicking on the connection link will add the folder to the Location window, when having access permission, and not reached the connections [[#Limits|limit]]. |
− | *Planet is the planet number in roman format
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− | *Moon is the nearest moon (omit it if there's no moon)
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− | *Suffix is the abbreviated name of the station
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− | So, for example, an Aldrat Pator Tech School station bookmark would be labelled: <span style="color: olive;">[Example: IX-PTS]</span>
| + | When creating a shared folder the connection link can also be dragged from the confirmation window. |
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− | An instant warp-out at 2000km away from the HQ would look like this: <span style="color: olive;">IWO [Example: IX-PTS @2000KM]</span>
| + | "Admin access" users do not need a connection link, they can connect to a shared folder via the "Shared folders With Admin Access" folder. |
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− | And an undock bookmark at 2500m would be: <span style="color: olive;">UNDOCK [Example: IX-PTS @2500M]</span>
| + | === Create a shared folder === |
| + | If you haven't already done so, create an [[Access List]] and add the contacts you wish to share the folder with to the list. |
| + | * Open the "Locations" window ('''Neocom -> Personal -> Locations''', default shortcut {{button|L}}) |
| + | * Click the '''Create Folder''' button |
| + | * Enter a folder name (Required) |
| + | * Enter notes (Optional) |
| + | * Select the '''Shared folder''' option and: |
| + | ** Assign an access list for '''Admin access''' (Required) |
| + | ** Assign access lists to the other access levels as wanted (Optional) |
| + | * Click {{Button|Submit}} |
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− | ===== Safespots ===== | + | {{expansion past|width= 50%| |
| + | The bookmark system before December 2019 had very different system for bookmark sharing. There were no shared bookmark folders, instead, each corporation had single corporation wide folder. Bookmarks could also be turned into items and traded with other players with contracts. |
| + | }} |
| + | {{Clear}} |
| + | == Organize and manage == |
| + | As time goes by you will create a lot of bookmarks and if you don’t organize and manage them, you will mess them up. This section presents some basic techniques that can be used to avoid that. The following are not strict rules. They are, however, built upon solid experience. In time, feel free to develop your own style and system. Corporations or elements thereof may have, like [[WHC Bookmark Naming Scheme|EVE Unis WHC]] does, rules for labeling |
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− | Mid-point safespots use the following syntax: <span style="color: olive;"><nowiki>|-- Object - Object --|</nowiki></span>
| + | === Label === |
| + | The most important part of organizing bookmarks is labeling. In stressful situations, you have to be able to recognize the right bookmark and use it in an instant. Therefore, bookmark labels need to have a standard, easily recognizable format. It is important to create - and use - an efficient way to label bookmarks from the beginning. You will thank yourself in the future. |
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− | A mid point safespot between Algogille and Pakhshi gates in Renyn would look like this: <span style="color: olive;"><nowiki>|-- Algogille - Pakhshi --|</nowiki></span>
| + | Before labeling bookmarks, you should familiarize yourself with the information automatically stored with the bookmarks in the Locations window. |
| + | ; Label : Name assigned to the bookmark. |
| + | ; Type : Type of bookmark. Either "Coordinate" for coordinate bookmarks or the type of the bookmarked object like "Station", "Citadel", "Refinery" etc for object bookmarks. |
| + | ; Jumps : Number of jumps from the current location. |
| + | ; SOL : Solar system the bookmark is located in. |
| + | ; CON : Constellation the bookmark is located in. |
| + | ; REG : Region the bookmark is located in. |
| + | ; Date : Date and time of creation. |
| + | ; Expiry : Date and time of auto deletion. |
| + | ; Creator : Name of the capasuleer that created the bookmark |
| + | This information is visible in (sort-able) columns on the Locations window and apart from Label and Expiry (limited) can <em>not</em> be edited. |
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− | <br> Un-aligned safespots use the following syntax: <span style="color: olive;"><nowiki>|--Number: Object @Distance --|</nowiki></span>
| + | Try not to use information already available in the Locations window for bookmark labels, and keep it as simple as possible because you may need to find bookmark in an instant in case of an emergency or a strict situation. |
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− | *Number is the number of the safespot in a system
| + | === Locations window === |
− | *Object is the closest celestial object
| + | The Locations window is the central repository of bookmarks. It has a three level structure of root-folders, folders and sub-folders. |
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− | An un-aligned safespot 10AU from the Jark gate could look like this: <span style="color: olive;"><nowiki>|--02: Jark @10AU --|</nowiki></span>
| + | Folders and sub-folders can be used to organize bookmarks. (sub-)folders can be used to arrange bookmarks according to their uses. Folders are also used to control the availability and the visibility in space (see {{Section link| |Folder status}}). |
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− | A spot 8AU from the HQ would be: <span style="color: olive;"><nowiki>|--07: [IX-PTS] @8AU --|</nowiki></span> | + | A folder, of any level, can be opened in its own window by using the right-click menu option "Open Group Window" or double-clicking the folder. Opening a folder in its own window automatically collapses the folder in the Locations window. Expanding that folder in the Locations window will close the stand-alone folder. |
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− | And an un-aligned safespot 2AU from the seventh planet in the system could look like this: <span style="color: olive;"><nowiki>|--04: (VII) @2AU --|</nowiki></span>
| + | Bookmark data is divided over 9 columns: Label, Type, Jumps, SOL, CON, REG, Date, Expiry and Creator (See {{Section link| |Label}} for a description). |
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| + | Bookmarks that are in the current system are high-lighted, with the color depending on the Color Theme in use. |
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− | ==== Example: a simpler system ==== | + | ==== Root-folders ==== |
| + | The Locations window has four build in "root"-folders: |
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− | In the simple system all bookmarks follow the pattern of:
| + | [[File:Locations window collapsed.png]] |
| + | * Locations in <''System''>: This folder is managed by the game and will contain al personal and shared bookmarks that are in online folders in the system that you are currently residing in. <br>It has a second single window form that differs from the standard one as it has less(3) and different columns (Labels, Folder and Expiry). This folder is opened by clicking on the icon on the far right of the folder name. |
| + | : [[File:Locations-In system.png]] |
| + | * Personal Locations: This folder contains folders with your personal bookmarks that only you can see. |
| + | * Shared Locations: This folder contains folders that either are shared with others or others have shared with you. |
| + | * Agent missions: This folder is managed by the game and will contain al bookmarks to locations that are related to accepted missions. |
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− | TYPE OBJECT ALIGNMENT DISTANCE
| + | The root-folders Personal- and Shared Locations are divided into player controlled folders and sub-folders. There must be at least one folder to be able to store bookmarks. |
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− | This follows the same general pattern as the Agony style where you always have the four key elements in the bookmark name. But instead of using symbols like ">label<" or "|-label-|", you stick with short character prefixes to define the bookmark type.
| + | ==== Folders ==== |
| + | Folders can contain a mixture of sub folders and bookmarks. Folder are used to control the usability of the bookmarks within (online/offline), the visibility of bookmarks in space and in the case of shared folders: access control. |
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− | As with the Agony system, bookmarks should be sorted into folders based on the type of the bookmark. Over the long term, sorting into folders by type will make the most sense because the game will filter out any bookmarks that are not in the current solar system. By putting the "type" identifier at the front of the name, you can easily sort your bookmarks back into folders (such as if you lose your local settings file). For example, every bookmark that is prefixed as "GOG" goes in the "Gate (Off-Grid)" folder.
| + | ==== Sub-folders ==== |
| + | Sub-folders can be created inside folders and can only contain bookmarks. Sub-folders can be used to control visibility in space. |
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− | The alignment notation can be done in a variety of ways, but is generally done in relationship to the star. Pretend that you are standing at the star and looking towards the gate. This gives you left / right / high / low / near / far. Or you could just use letters like: L (Left) / R (Right) / T (Top) / B (Bottom) / N (Near) / F (Far). Sometimes the alignment can be omitted (in the case of favorite stations, or insta-warp undocks).
| + | ==== Administrative folders ==== |
| + | These folders are controlled by the game. |
| + | ; Offline Folders : When one or more folders have the offline status this folder is created and the offline folders are placed in it. When there are no more folders with offline status this folder is automatically removed. This folder can exist in both Personal- and Shared Folders |
| + | ; Shared folders With Admin Access : This folder contains all the shared folders with "Admin access" permission regardless of their statuses (connected/disconnected - online/offline). The statuses are visible behind the folders. |
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− | {|style="width:90%; border-spacing: 0px; border-width: 1px;"
| + | ==== Folder status ==== |
− | ! style="width:10%; border-style: solid;"|Prefix
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− | ! style="width:20%; border-style: solid;"|Folder Name
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− | ! style="width:45%; border-style: solid;"|Description
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− | ! style="width:25%; border-style: solid;"|Examples
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Belt
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Bookmarks inside of asteroid belts that allow mining ships to get within 2-4 kilometers of a section of the asteroid arc. Saves time instead of slow-boating the 15-20km from the warp-in point for the belt.
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− | * AB 9-3 (Left)
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− | * AB 6-1 (Right)
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|ABO
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Belt (Obsv)
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Asteroid belt observation bookmarks are usually used by support craft such as haulers. Typically above/below the belt so that haulers can warp in/out without bumping mining craft (jetcans get tractored to the location by haulers).
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− | They can also be used by mining ships in NULL sec. It is never a good idea to warp direct to a belt as hostile pilots can appear in local and be on grid before you arrive at the belt. It is safer to warp to the bookmark first and then onto your preferred position in the belt.
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− | * ABO 9-3 High 200km
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− | * ABO 6-1 Low 50km
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− | * ABO 3-7 High 10km
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|GO
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Gate
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Gate observation bookmarks that are the same grid as the gate. Observation bookmarks are generally at least 200-250km away from the gate, while tactical bookmarks are generally within 150km. You should have at least 1 observation bookmark for every gate that you pass through on a regular basis, and it should be off to the sides, out of alignment with any major celestial. Gates where you travel through frequently should have multiple bookmarks for safety / flexibility.
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− | * GO Eygfe Low 250km
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− | * GO Aldrat Far 300km
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− | * GO Olbra Left 100km
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− | * GO Eystur Right 280km
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− | * GO Ovest High 280km
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|GOG
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Gate (Off-Grid)
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Off-grid gate bookmarks are generally done at 1000-5000km away from the gate and possibly as far as 1.0 AU. The purpose of an off-grid bookmark is to partially hide your fleet numbers from the opposition rather then sitting on a gate. Or it can be used to stop short of warping to the gate, allowing you to do a quick d-scan of the gate before going through a gate. Off-grid bookmarks should always be made in a direction not aligned with any major celestial object (stations / gates / planets / moons).
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− | * GOG Eygfe Low 5000km
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− | * GOG Eystur Left 0.5AU
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− | * GOG Aldrat Far 2500km
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|GT
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Gate (Tactical)
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Tactical bookmarks around gates are typically within 150km and are used as warp-in points for ships that want to land at a gate at their optimal ranges. However, in a pinch, you can just bounce to a gate observation bookmark then back to the gate at your optimal range.
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− | * GT Eygfe Low 100km
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− | * GT Aldrat High 80km
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− | * GT Olbra L 60km
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|JB
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Jump Bridge
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Jump bridges are used in sovereign null-sec systems to move from one system to another without using a jump drive or star gates. Most corporations will have pre-existing bookmarks defined.
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− | * JB P#-M# [OWNER] Destination
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− | * JB 03-25 [IVY] D4KU-5
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|JBO
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Jump Br (Obsv)
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Observational bookmark at a distance more then 200km from the jump bridge.
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− | * JBO 11-23 Low 250km
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− | * JBO 03-25 Far 300km
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|LOC
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Locator Agent
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Stations where you have standings to use locator agents should be bookmarked. The reason that you bookmark these and put them in their own folder is so that you have a quick way to figure out if any L3/L4 locator agents are within N jumps of your current position. You should include the station abbreviation, planet/moon, and the level of the locator agent. Only L3/L4 agents are generally worth bookmarking as the L1/L2 agents are much more limited and/or too slow.
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− | * LOC MMC 7-7 L4
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− | * LOC L3 RJD 11-1
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− | * LOC CBT L4
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|P#
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Planet (Obsv)
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Planet warp-in grid observation points.
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− | * P9 Right 240km
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− | * P7 Left 210km
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− | * P6 Far 320km
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|PO
| + | ! style="width: 12em;" | Status !! style="width: 8em;" | Applicable to !! Description |
− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|POS Tower
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|By creating bookmarks for the moons in a system, you can get on-grid with the POS, hopefully from an unexpected angle and in a grid corner where you won't be uncloaked. It's optional whether you include the corp/alliance that owns the tower as that information can change frequently.
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− | * PO 9-9 <IVY> High 280km
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− | * PO 7-3 Left 200km
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− | * PO 6-2 [E-UNI] Far 300km
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|POG | + | | online / offline || (Shared) Folders || Controls whether the bookmarks are available for use and the availability of the folder when [[#Create|creating]] new bookmarks. <br>Offline/online status is managed through the right-click menu. <br>When a folder is offline it is moved to the "Offline Folders" folder and appears grayed-out. |
− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|POS Tower (Off-Grid) | |
− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Off-grid bookmarks at moon locations where POS towers can be found, so that you can stage assets near a tower without being on the same grid. | |
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− | * POG 9-9 <IVY> Left 2500km
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− | * POG 7-3 Left 3000km (Ammo)
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|SF | + | | visible / invisible || (Shared) Folders<br>Sub-folders || Controls the visibility of bookmarks in space. <br>The visibility status is indicated and managed by the eye symbol behind the folder name. Green means visible, grey means hidden. <br>Clicking the eye symbol swaps the status. |
− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Station (Favs)
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|It can be useful to bookmark stations that you use frequently, so that you don't have to dig through the list in a multiple station system. And you can tag the stations with comments so that you know why you bookmarked a particular station. | |
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− | * SF PTS 9 (E-UNI HQ)
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− | * SF MMC 5-15 (L4 Combat)
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− | * SF BCF 8-12 (Market)
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− | * SF CNAP 4-4 (Market)
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− | * SF RMS 2-1 (Starter)
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− | * SF JH 10-14 (Office)
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|SFR | + | | connected / disconnected || Shared folders || Controls whether a shared folder is available to you. <br>Disconnected folders with "Admin access" permission can be reconnected through the "Shared folders With Admin Access" folder. Reconnecting to shared folders without "Admin access" requires the connection link. (see also {{Section link| |Share}}) |
− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Station (Refining) | |
− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|For industrial folks, it is very useful to make special bookmarks for stations where you have zero-tax standing and the station has 50% refine facilities. Just like with locator agent stations, you can open up your folder of refining stations and sort by jump distance to see what is close to your current location. | |
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Safe-spots are locations in space, not between any major celestial objects where you can hole up for 30-60 seconds without sitting at a station / gate / planet. These are typically within 15AU of any major celestial (see "SSD" for deep safe spots). Distance (if noted) should be the distance to the closest major celestial object.
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Deep safe spots are those which are 15AU or more away from any celestial object. More secure deep safe spots are also at least 15AU away from any line of travel between major celestial objects (gates / stations). The goal with a deep safe-spot is to never appear on the directional scanner of someone who is hunting you by moving from celestial to celestial.
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Safe-Spot (Burned)
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Safe-spots that have been shared with other people or where someone has landed on-grid with you should be considered "burned" and marked accordingly.
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Temporary safe spots are those that you drop quickly, but don't categorize. Often named by just putting the EVE time or the nearest celestial.
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Station observation bookmarks are those on-grid with the station, but at least 200-250km away from it (or the undock point). These are used by covert operations pilots who want to get a quick peek at a station's undock activity without running the risk of discovery.
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− | * STO PTS 9 High 250km
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Off-grid bookmarks for stations. Good for setting up a pounce fleet where you are going to warp to the undock point.
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− | * STOG PTS 9 Low 3500km
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Instant warp-off or an undock bookmark. These are always created in as straight of a line as possible from the undock point on a station at a distance of 2000-8000km. When you undock, you right-click on the bookmark and warp to it. If the alignment is close to your existing alignment you will warp off before anyone can bump you or tackle you. Since alignment doesn't matter, typically you only record the distance.
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− | |style="border-style: solid; padding: 2px; border-width: 1px;"|Temporary or unsorted bookmarks should have a home. These can be pretty much anything and everything where you don't plan on keeping the bookmark long-term.
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− | ==== Important ==== | + | ==== Open the Locations window ====<!-- Full text because of multiple open the XXX window sections --> |
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− | Define your own style and stick with it to avoid any future confusion between your bookmarks!
| + | * using the Neocom menu: Personal > Locations |
− | | + | * using the Neocom short-cut icon: Locations (The short-cut area is player configurable so the icon may or may not be there). |
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− | *Try not to use information already available in the Places tab for bookmark labels, and keep it as simple as possible because you may need to find your bookmark in an instant in case of an emergency or a strict situation.
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− | *You can sort your bookmarks according to their jump distance. This way they will be available on top of the list. The bookmarks in the current system are always highlighted with green to help you separate them from the others.
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− | *You may reach your bookmarks through the right-click menu while in space. Only the bookmarks in the current system will show up in this menu.
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− | Using folders is the simplest way to organize your bookmarks. You can use folders to arrange your bookmarks according to your individual style. You also use the folders to choose whether to display a folder's bookmarks in space or not. Clicking the eye icon sets visibility. Green means visible, grey means hidden.
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− | *When you use the right-click menu to reach your bookmarks in space, you will also see your folders there (only those containing bookmarks in the current system though.)
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− | *Bookmarks in the root folder (not in any of your folders) are extremely easy to access in space - use this to your advantage.
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− | *If you would like to keep just one bookmark folder open from your People and Places just double click on the folder you want and a copy will be created on your screen and you will be able to close the People and Places tab and the fold you choose will remain.
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− | === Sharing & Copying Bookmarks ===
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− | You can share your bookmarks with others in-game, but in most situations this is not recommended. Acquiring bookmarks is difficult, and if you share your safespots they will become public and compromised. If you share your bookmarks with your corpmates consider these as being compromised.
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− | ==== Copying Bookmarks ====
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− | To copy your bookmarks, open the Places tab and select all the bookmarks you want to copy. Multiple selections can be made by using the shift key for in-between selection or ctrl for one-by-one selection - however, you can only copy ten at a time. Since the Invasion Update of Nov 2019 you cannot copy or move your bookmarks to your station hangar or cargo hold.
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− | To COPY your bookmarks, hold the SHIFT key while clicking and dragging the bookmarks to another folder.
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− | To MOVE your bookmarks, hold the CTRL key as you drag the bookmarks to the destination folder.
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− | If the destination folder is not easily accessible for drag & drop you can right click it and choose "Open Group Window" and then drag stuff into that window.
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− | If you are finding the bookmark isn't copying or moving, when clicking on your bookmark, you need to select the white space at the front or the end of the bookmark.
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− | You can also share bookmarks with other corporate members in the Corporate Locations under the Places tab in the People & Places tab on your [[NeoCom|NeoCom]]. Any corporate member can create a folder or a bookmark but each addition will log the creators name. In addition, only a corporate member with the 'Communications Officer' role (in EVE University the Sophomore title provides this role) can delete a corporate bookmark. To create a bookmark in Corporate locations just create a personnel bookmark like you normally would then just drag the location down into the corporate folder that you want to place it in. Since the Invasion Update of Nov 2019 the old limit of 500 corp bookmarks has been removed - there is now a new limit of 500 bookmarks per shared folder and a limit of 3 online shared folders a character can use.
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− | ==== Deleting Personal Bookmarks ====
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− | If you copy or move a bookmark into your hanger you no longer need, you will not be able to delete it directly from your hangar. You will need to move it back to your Personal Locations. Once in your Personal Locations you can then right click and select "remove location" from the menu. It would be ideal to setup a separate folder for this. Deleting a copied bookmark will not delete the original if you have multiples of the same bookmark.
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− | ==== Sharing Bookmarks ====
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− | The old but simple system of sharing bookmarks by dragging them into your hangar or cargo hold to get a tradeable voucher has been removed with the Invasions Update of Nov 2019.
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− | The new system of shared folders is a lot more flexible - but alas, that flexibility comes with a slightly steeper learning curve (but we're used to that, aren't we).
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− | - The access to shared folders is governed by Access Lists - just like access to Upwell Structures. If you don't want to use an existing Access List you have to create a new one. This can be done by opening the Access Lists editor from the Social menu in Neocom.
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− | - You can then press the New Access List Button in the lower left corner and create your own Access List and then click it and press the Add Members button at the right bottom to add other characters. You can also give members different roles aside from the default Member role - be very selective who you grant Manager (can add characters, corporations or alliances to Member - or Blocked which is only interesting for structures) or even Admin (can do everything).
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− | - After you have created an Access List or have decided to use an existing one, you can now create a new shared folder by clicking the New Folder button in your People & Places Window and selecting the Shared Folder radio button.
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− | - This gives you 4 levels of access to the folder, namely View (view folder and contents, Align and Warp to bookmarks), Use (Add Bookmarks or Subfolders, Edit and Delete own Bookmarks/Subfolders, Copy Bookmarks), Manage (Edit and Delete all Bookmarks/Subfolders) and Admin (Delete or Rename shared folder, Change Access Lists). Each of these levels can be assigned an Access List. | |
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− | - The pilots you have just given access to your new Shared Bookmark Folder don't know yet about their luck - you have to give them a link to it. This can be done by dragging the Shared Bookmark Folder into an ingame mail or a chat channel. They can then click the link and connect to the folder and make it online (one of the 3 concurrently usable shared folders per character).
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− | If you think that a bookmark may be compromised, or you share it with your mates and then separate from them for any reason, just trash it. Also trash the bookmarks you used with a fleet, because everyone in that fleet learned them. Paranoia can be very healthy in this regard.
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− | You can recycle your compromised or old bookmarks. Use the mid-safe technique that was described above in the safespot section, but this time use your safespots rather than celestials to take mid-points. In this way you will be able to generate more unaligned safespots from your older ones.
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− | Corp bookmarks are designed such that anyone in your corporation can read and create bookmarks, although special roles are required to delete bookmarks. Only those with the Communications Officer role can delete and otherwise manage bookmarks listed in the corp bookmarks are.
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− | Corporation bookmarks are limited to 500 per shared folder and 3 online shared folders so using these bookmarks in larger corporations require some guidelines. In general, the following should be observed when creating and deleting bookmarks in corporation bookmark folder areas in order to manage large numbers of players who wish to store bookmarks.
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− | 1) When in doubt, always use your personal bookmark folder for bookmarks. The corp bookmark folder is not an "overflow" for your own personal bookmarks. Corporation bookmarks are there for use by fleets and special locations that are important for a substantial set of members for your corporation. When creating a bookmark here, you should ask yourself, is it necessary for everyone in the corp to view this?
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− | 2) If you are creating bookmarks in the corporate folder, be sure to use a good descriptive name for the folder and the bookmarks. IF you simply label the folder as "temporary" then someone is going to delete them. It is much better to start with a name like "XYZ fleet" then change it to "Delete" when you are done with them.
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− | ==== Deleting Bookmarks: ==== | + | == Edit == |
− | Occasionally, the corporation bookmark folder may become full. At this point, it is important to consider several issues when deleting bookmarks to add more.
| + | [[File:Locations-Edit Location.png|thumb|Edit Location (bookmark) window]] |
| + | Only bookmarks in [[#Folder status|online]] folders can be edited. Editable fields are Label, Notes and Folder. Changing the Folder effectively moves the bookmark. |
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− | Where should we look?
| + | Expire can be sort of edited in that a set expire time can be canceled making the bookmark permanent. |
− | * Look at where the bookmark is located. Bookmarks not in any folders are probably mistakes.
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− | * Look in your group's folder. If you are in solitude, go there first to delete BMs.
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− | * Finally, if you cannot find any start looking outside your own group.
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− | Which ones MIGHT be candidates for deletion?
| + | The edit window is accessed through the bookmarks right-click option "Edit Location". |
− | * Bookmarks that YOU MADE are the easiest if you can delete them.
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− | * Bookmarks that are OLD AND FOR DYNAMIC SITES are more likely to be candidates for deletions. For example, a two day old wormhole location is most likely no longer there, so can usually be deleted safely.
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− | OK, I found some I think can be deleted, now what?
| + | == Copy and move == |
− | * Check WHO created the bookmarks. Are they online? Can you check in mumble if they need them?
| + | Copying and moving of bookmarks can only be done between [[#Folder status|online]] folders. |
− | * Check in Chat.E-Uni if the bookmarks are needed.
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− | When in doubt, probably better to leave them and find some different ones to delete.
| + | Bookmarks are '''copied''' by {{Button|Ctrl}}+{{Button|Shift}}-dragging a bookmark on top of the destination folder. |
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− | In general, just use common sense.
| + | Bookmarks are '''moved''' by either {{Button|Ctrl}}-dragging a bookmark on top of the destination folder or by changing the folder when editing the bookmark. |
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| + | When using the drag method multiple bookmarks can be copied/moved in a single action. When using the drag method bookmarks of multiple source folders can be copied/moved in a single action. Selecting multiple bookmarks is done by either {{Button|Ctrl}}-clicking individual bookmarks or for a number of consecutive bookmarks by clicking on the first and then {{Button|Shift}}-clicking the last bookmark. |
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− | == Conclusion: == | + | == Delete == |
| + | Only bookmarks in [[#Folder status|online]] folders can be deleted. Bookmarks can be deleted via the bookmarks right-click option "Remove Location" in the Locations window or on the bookmark brackets. When doing so in the Locations window multiple bookmarks, in multiple folders, can be deleted in a single action. |
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− | Whatever role you carry out in EVE, bookmarking is one of the most important aspects of the game. Although it seems very tiresome, at least if you want to survive and avoid dangers, you should create the basic bookmarks for your own safety.
| + | Selecting multiple bookmarks is done by either {{Button|Ctrl}}-clicking individual bookmarks or for a number of consecutive bookmarks by clicking on the first and then {{Button|Shift}}-clicking the last bookmark. |
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− | If you are considering PvP or military action, you must at least create these bookmarks for your operation area. Your survival in low sec and Null sec, highly depends on your bookmarks and your personal skill to use them.
| + | Note: When deleting a (sub-)folder the bookmarks in it will be deleted as well. |
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− | Always remember that bookmarking requires no additional game skill, it’s just a time consuming action. If you start bookmarking in the early days in your game life and spend few hours every week or month, you will cover most of your operation area in few months.
| + | == Notes == |
| + | <references group=Note /> |
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− | Each time you run for an agent mission, hauling something, docking and undocking a station, approaching a gate and flying with a fleet, try taking some time and creating some bookmarks. If you use all the opportunities, it is much easier than it seems.
| + | == External links == |
| + | * Devblog: [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/shareable-bookmarks-alliance-bookmarks-and-more Shareable Bookmarks: Alliance Bookmarks and More!] |
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A bookmark is a saved location, either of a "spot" (coordinate bookmark) or an "object" (object bookmark). Bookmarks can be used to warp to (when in the same system) or to add the location to the route waypoint list. Bookmarks can be personal (private) or shared.
Common uses
There are many types of bookmarks, but all capsuleers should at least have some basic bookmarks to travel in space safely and avoid traps or hunts. Depending on your role or operation you could extend your repertoire to various bookmarks.
Safe spot
- See also: Safe spots
Safe spot bookmarks are one of the most important ways to use bookmarks. Safe spots are locations in space away from all charted entities. The only way to find someone in a safe spot and warp to that location is by using scan probes. Although you can be seen in a directional scan, you cannot be followed unless someone scans your location with probes.
There are three basic types of safe spots.
Mid-point safes are the simplest and least secure form of safes. Create a bookmark while warping between two celestials. It is fairly easy to get the approximate position of a midpoint safe by using directional scanner which makes them easier to probe. A determined pilot can even locate mid-point safes with the directional scanner and mid warp bookmarks.
Example of unaligned safe that has been made with one mid-point safe and a celestial.
Unaligned safes are considerably more secure than mid-point safes. These spots are not in alignment between two celestial objects. Unaligned safes can be made by either bookmarking signatures/mission sites or by creating a safe spot while warping from between a mid-point safe and another location.
Deep safes are the most secure form of safe spots. Usually, a safe is considered to be deep safe if it is more than 14 AU from any celestial and is not in between celestials. This makes it impossible to be seen with the directional scanner. Proper deep safes can be hard to make. The following are the three most common methods:
A long, long time ago...
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- The old probe scanning system could be used to warp to an arbitrarily far location. This allowed making bookmarks that were hundreds or thousands of AU away. The safes nowadays called deep are just a pale imitation of the deep safes of the past.
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Never warp to within 'zero' of your safe spot. This will reduce your chance of being detected or compromising your safe spot location. And always move rather than sit still, so even if your location is known your adversaries will not be able to land to you at zero.
Salvage
Wrecks can not be scanned down. If you wish to return to the battlefield you will need to bookmark the location before you leave.
Instadock
When you warp to any location your ship will land approximately 2500 meters away from the target. On stations, this means that you can land outside of the docking range and are vulnerable to ganks as you approach the station. This is especially dangerous at trade hubs where gankers may try to kill you. Instadock bookmarks solve this issue.
An instadock bookmark is simply a bookmark that is placed at least 2500 meters inside of the docking range. One common way of creating an instadock bookmark is by undocking from a station and saving the location immediately or while the overview says that you are within 0 meters of that station. Instadock bookmarks can be used in combination with the autopilot. Set the target station as your destination and warp to the instadock bookmark. Enable autopilot after entering the warp. As soon as you land on the bookmark your autopilot will automatically dock your ship.
You can find a demonstration video on Youtube: Staying Safe - Insta-Docks.
Insta-undock
When you undock from a station your ship will be moving at maximum velocity towards a certain direction. By having a bookmark far in that direction it is possible to instantly warp off after undocking.
The most common way of making an instaundock is to use a very fast MWD frigate. Undock from the station and burn away. It is also possible to use mid-warp bookmarks, celestial alignment or lucky signatures. The instaundock bookmark should ideally be far enough from the station so that it is not on the same grid. This way you will disappear from their overview after warping to it.
It should be noted that the ship heading has a small random variance on undock.
Using instaundocks is not recommended for slow ships. A well placed combat prober will be able to probe a slow ship at the landing position before the slow ship is able to warp away.
Tactical
Tactical bookmarks are bookmarks that are on grid with a point of interest (such as station or stargate) but far enough that hostiles on the grid will not be a danger to you and drag bubbles will not drag you. They should be at minimum 200 km away so that warping between the target and the bookmark is always possible.
Tactical bookmarks can be used to check the target grid before warping in or to prey on passing by ships, ready to warp in as soon as the victim arrives.
Tactical bookmarks placed around a gate. Click to see animation.
Tactical bookmarks "above" or "below" the target can also be used for bypassing bubbles.
Tactical bookmarks can also be used for fast repositioning on grid. The recommended layout for a Tactical PvP Bookmark Setup is the classic 3 axes, 4 points per axes, with 150km separating each Bookmark Point. With this layout, almost every point around a designated area (eg. Jump Gate, POS, Station...) in a radius of 300km can be reached, allowing fast position changes as well as the famous "50km Warp" known to be the smallest distance a ship can warp to. if you have a target 50 km away and a tactical bookmark 200 km behind them you can warp to the bookmark at 150 km and land right on top of the target.
The fastest way to create a Tactically Bookmarked Location would be the combined use of Micro Jump Drives (MJD) and Micro Warp Drives (MWD), although it was rarely used in the middle of a fleet fight, these could allow fast creation of such Bookmarks in those situations.
Ender's View of Tactical bookmarks
For those who are a fan of the book Ender's Game:
While at first glance, an undocking ship appears to travel in a straight line, remember this is space and the orientation is in the eye of the beholder. Accordingly, Ender would articulate that when you undock, you are really "falling". Thus, the bookmark behind the undock point represents the High Ground of any combat situation. (If you want to see it in practice, imagine someone is shooting at you from behind the station the next time you undock; try to turn around and burn towards the hypothetical aggressor, and enjoy getting stuck bumping into the station.)
Once you have established this collection of bookmarks around a station, you can extend the thinking to key stargates within the system. The "high ground" of a stargate is either the path that is furthest away from the sun or furthest away from your home station.
Bubbling
Finding a good spot for a warp disruption bubble takes time. So if you think you may be camping the same stargate in the future, you will want to save the location where you want your bubble to be.
Limits
The number of bookmarks that a player can have is limited.
- Each personal bookmark folder can contain 3,000 bookmarks.
- You can have up to 30 personal bookmark folders (online + offline)
- You can have up to five personal bookmark folders online at once.
- Each shared bookmark folder can contain 500 bookmarks.
- You can be connected to up to 30 shared bookmark folders (online + offline)
- You can have up to three shared bookmark folders online at once.
- Bookmarks in shared folders become usable 2 minutes after being added.
- Changes to shared bookmark folder access take up to 5 minutes to apply.
Create
New Location (bookmark) window.
Bookmarks are created through the New Location window The window has the following fields:
- Label - The name of the bookmark. Pre-filled with for
- coordinate bookmarks - "Spot in <System name> solar system"
- object bookmarks - the name of the object
- Notes - Optional field for notes about the bookmark
Don’t try to write labels and notes in stressful situations - just save the bookmark.
- Folder - A selection list with the available (sub-)folders where the bookmark will be saved. The folder of the last saved bookmark is kept as the active selection
- Expiry - The automatic delete time. Choose an option by selecting the corresponding radio button. The setting of the last saved bookmark is kept on a per folder base
- Never
- In 2 Days
- In 3 Hours
Bookmarks are saved when the Submit button is clicked. When saving a coordinate bookmark the saved coordinates are from the position the ship is in when the button is clicked, even when in mid-move/warp. Object bookmarks save the coordinates from the object regardless of where your ship is.
Tips and tricks
Warning existing object bookmark
- Probes in space can be bookmarked, useful for creating perches on gates for example. See Bookmarking probes
- Important: When an object is destroyed or moved the bookmark still points to the original position
- Expiry can not be edited, but it can be canceled.
- The same label can be used for multiple bookmarks. Identical labels will not overwrite each other.
- Creating a second bookmark of the same object will cause a warning. If the warning is ignored a new bookmark is created for that object.
- Opening the New Location window when docked will start the creation of an object bookmark. This will not change when undocking
Open the New Location window
The window can be opened in several ways:
For coordinate bookmarks.
- Open the Locations window and click the Add Location button.
- Use the hot-key (default: CTRL+B).
For object bookmarks
- Use the right-click option Save Location on an object (some objects, like ships, can not be saved and thus do not have the option)
- This option will work on, among others, - brackets in space - objects in the overview - objects in the market window - objects in the agent mission offer window - linked objects and agents in chat , mail and the notebook, anomalies and fully identified (green - 100%) signatures in the probe window and more.
- Use the radial menu. The push-pin on the second level.
- Open the Locations window and click the Add Location button (Only when docked).
Share
Personal and shared bookmarks have different icons in space.
Bookmarks are shared by placing them in a shared folder. For the bookmarks to be available the folder must be connected.
Access to a shared folder is governed by Access Lists. Before creating a shared folder at least one access list must exist to be used for the folder.
Shared folders have four different levels of access. Higher access levels include all the features of lower access levels.
- View access: View folder and contents, and use locations.
- Use access: Add locations, edit/delete own locations, copy locations, create sub-folders, edit/delete own sub-folders.
- Manage access: Edit/delete all locations and all sub-folders.
- Admin access: Rename/delete/ the folder and access management[Note 1]. Additionally, connect to the shared folder without a connection link.
Connection link
Non "Admin access" users need a connection link to connect to a shared folder. To create a connection link drag the shared folder into chat, a chat channels MOTD or EVE mail. Clicking on the connection link will add the folder to the Location window, when having access permission, and not reached the connections limit.
When creating a shared folder the connection link can also be dragged from the confirmation window.
"Admin access" users do not need a connection link, they can connect to a shared folder via the "Shared folders With Admin Access" folder.
Create a shared folder
If you haven't already done so, create an Access List and add the contacts you wish to share the folder with to the list.
- Open the "Locations" window (Neocom -> Personal -> Locations, default shortcut L)
- Click the Create Folder button
- Enter a folder name (Required)
- Enter notes (Optional)
- Select the Shared folder option and:
- Assign an access list for Admin access (Required)
- Assign access lists to the other access levels as wanted (Optional)
- Click Submit
A long, long time ago...
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The bookmark system before December 2019 had very different system for bookmark sharing. There were no shared bookmark folders, instead, each corporation had single corporation wide folder. Bookmarks could also be turned into items and traded with other players with contracts.
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Organize and manage
As time goes by you will create a lot of bookmarks and if you don’t organize and manage them, you will mess them up. This section presents some basic techniques that can be used to avoid that. The following are not strict rules. They are, however, built upon solid experience. In time, feel free to develop your own style and system. Corporations or elements thereof may have, like EVE Unis WHC does, rules for labeling
Label
The most important part of organizing bookmarks is labeling. In stressful situations, you have to be able to recognize the right bookmark and use it in an instant. Therefore, bookmark labels need to have a standard, easily recognizable format. It is important to create - and use - an efficient way to label bookmarks from the beginning. You will thank yourself in the future.
Before labeling bookmarks, you should familiarize yourself with the information automatically stored with the bookmarks in the Locations window.
- Label
- Name assigned to the bookmark.
- Type
- Type of bookmark. Either "Coordinate" for coordinate bookmarks or the type of the bookmarked object like "Station", "Citadel", "Refinery" etc for object bookmarks.
- Jumps
- Number of jumps from the current location.
- SOL
- Solar system the bookmark is located in.
- CON
- Constellation the bookmark is located in.
- REG
- Region the bookmark is located in.
- Date
- Date and time of creation.
- Expiry
- Date and time of auto deletion.
- Creator
- Name of the capasuleer that created the bookmark
This information is visible in (sort-able) columns on the Locations window and apart from Label and Expiry (limited) can not be edited.
Try not to use information already available in the Locations window for bookmark labels, and keep it as simple as possible because you may need to find bookmark in an instant in case of an emergency or a strict situation.
Locations window
The Locations window is the central repository of bookmarks. It has a three level structure of root-folders, folders and sub-folders.
Folders and sub-folders can be used to organize bookmarks. (sub-)folders can be used to arrange bookmarks according to their uses. Folders are also used to control the availability and the visibility in space (see § Folder status).
A folder, of any level, can be opened in its own window by using the right-click menu option "Open Group Window" or double-clicking the folder. Opening a folder in its own window automatically collapses the folder in the Locations window. Expanding that folder in the Locations window will close the stand-alone folder.
Bookmark data is divided over 9 columns: Label, Type, Jumps, SOL, CON, REG, Date, Expiry and Creator (See § Label for a description).
Bookmarks that are in the current system are high-lighted, with the color depending on the Color Theme in use.
Root-folders
The Locations window has four build in "root"-folders:
- Locations in <System>: This folder is managed by the game and will contain al personal and shared bookmarks that are in online folders in the system that you are currently residing in.
It has a second single window form that differs from the standard one as it has less(3) and different columns (Labels, Folder and Expiry). This folder is opened by clicking on the icon on the far right of the folder name.
![Locations-In system.png](/images/3/34/Locations-In_system.png)
- Personal Locations: This folder contains folders with your personal bookmarks that only you can see.
- Shared Locations: This folder contains folders that either are shared with others or others have shared with you.
- Agent missions: This folder is managed by the game and will contain al bookmarks to locations that are related to accepted missions.
The root-folders Personal- and Shared Locations are divided into player controlled folders and sub-folders. There must be at least one folder to be able to store bookmarks.
Folders
Folders can contain a mixture of sub folders and bookmarks. Folder are used to control the usability of the bookmarks within (online/offline), the visibility of bookmarks in space and in the case of shared folders: access control.
Sub-folders
Sub-folders can be created inside folders and can only contain bookmarks. Sub-folders can be used to control visibility in space.
Administrative folders
These folders are controlled by the game.
- Offline Folders
- When one or more folders have the offline status this folder is created and the offline folders are placed in it. When there are no more folders with offline status this folder is automatically removed. This folder can exist in both Personal- and Shared Folders
- Shared folders With Admin Access
- This folder contains all the shared folders with "Admin access" permission regardless of their statuses (connected/disconnected - online/offline). The statuses are visible behind the folders.
Folder status
Status |
Applicable to |
Description
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online / offline |
(Shared) Folders |
Controls whether the bookmarks are available for use and the availability of the folder when creating new bookmarks. Offline/online status is managed through the right-click menu. When a folder is offline it is moved to the "Offline Folders" folder and appears grayed-out.
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visible / invisible |
(Shared) Folders Sub-folders |
Controls the visibility of bookmarks in space. The visibility status is indicated and managed by the eye symbol behind the folder name. Green means visible, grey means hidden. Clicking the eye symbol swaps the status.
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connected / disconnected |
Shared folders |
Controls whether a shared folder is available to you. Disconnected folders with "Admin access" permission can be reconnected through the "Shared folders With Admin Access" folder. Reconnecting to shared folders without "Admin access" requires the connection link. (see also § Share)
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Open the Locations window
The locations window can be opened by:
- using the Neocom menu: Personal > Locations
- using the Neocom short-cut icon: Locations (The short-cut area is player configurable so the icon may or may not be there).
- using the hot-key (Default: L)
Edit
Edit Location (bookmark) window
Only bookmarks in online folders can be edited. Editable fields are Label, Notes and Folder. Changing the Folder effectively moves the bookmark.
Expire can be sort of edited in that a set expire time can be canceled making the bookmark permanent.
The edit window is accessed through the bookmarks right-click option "Edit Location".
Copy and move
Copying and moving of bookmarks can only be done between online folders.
Bookmarks are copied by Ctrl+Shift-dragging a bookmark on top of the destination folder.
Bookmarks are moved by either Ctrl-dragging a bookmark on top of the destination folder or by changing the folder when editing the bookmark.
When using the drag method multiple bookmarks can be copied/moved in a single action. When using the drag method bookmarks of multiple source folders can be copied/moved in a single action. Selecting multiple bookmarks is done by either Ctrl-clicking individual bookmarks or for a number of consecutive bookmarks by clicking on the first and then Shift-clicking the last bookmark.
Delete
Only bookmarks in online folders can be deleted. Bookmarks can be deleted via the bookmarks right-click option "Remove Location" in the Locations window or on the bookmark brackets. When doing so in the Locations window multiple bookmarks, in multiple folders, can be deleted in a single action.
Selecting multiple bookmarks is done by either Ctrl-clicking individual bookmarks or for a number of consecutive bookmarks by clicking on the first and then Shift-clicking the last bookmark.
Note: When deleting a (sub-)folder the bookmarks in it will be deleted as well.
Notes
- ^ 5 August 2024: The in-game help has this as "Edit Access Lists" but this is not correct. Edit permission for an access list is controlled by the list itself. What is meant here is the permission to assign access lists to an access level.
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