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== Applied DPS ==
 
== Applied DPS ==
One of the most important aspects to realize is that whatever DPS(damage per second) your favourite third party fitting tool tells you that you have, or whatever the fitting window ingame tells you, is worth nothing if you cannot apply that damage. Hence the term ''"applied DPS"'' as opposed to ''"paper DPS"'' which is basically just your potential damage.
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One of the most important aspects to realize is that whatever DPS (damage per second) your favourite third party fitting tool tells you that you have, or whatever the fitting window ingame tells you, is worth nothing if you cannot apply that damage. Hence the term ''"applied DPS"'' as opposed to ''"paper DPS"'' which is basically just your potential damage.
  
 
Your velocity, your target's velocity, approach vectors, your gun's signature resolution, your target's ship signature, locking speed, locking range, your weapon's optimal and falloff range and tracking all play a vital part in how much of your damage you'll be able to apply on your enemy. See [[Turret Damage|turret damage]] or the [[Gunnery Guide|gunnery guide]] for a more comprehensive introduction to the factors determining how much damage you'll end up doing when you undock and leave your theoretical bubble.
 
Your velocity, your target's velocity, approach vectors, your gun's signature resolution, your target's ship signature, locking speed, locking range, your weapon's optimal and falloff range and tracking all play a vital part in how much of your damage you'll be able to apply on your enemy. See [[Turret Damage|turret damage]] or the [[Gunnery Guide|gunnery guide]] for a more comprehensive introduction to the factors determining how much damage you'll end up doing when you undock and leave your theoretical bubble.
  
 
Practically this means that utility modules often make or break fleets.
 
Practically this means that utility modules often make or break fleets.
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== Utility modules ==
 
== Utility modules ==
 
Utility modules refer to modules you fit that doesn't directly give you a higher dps in your favourite third party fitting program or on your fitting screen ingame. Instead they act as force multipliers of sorts making up for weaknesses or capitalize on strengths for increased efficiency. There are also modules that has no impact on your offensive capabilities, but are invaluable when things go wrong.
 
Utility modules refer to modules you fit that doesn't directly give you a higher dps in your favourite third party fitting program or on your fitting screen ingame. Instead they act as force multipliers of sorts making up for weaknesses or capitalize on strengths for increased efficiency. There are also modules that has no impact on your offensive capabilities, but are invaluable when things go wrong.

Revision as of 01:34, 29 March 2015

Fitting principles

Incursion fleets rely on good resists and buffer supported by a logistics. There are simply too many enemies to be able to fit a strong enough local tank, not to mention that by sacrificing a small portion of your fleet to bring in logistics instead of more damage dealers, the rest of the damage dealers can fit more offensive modules and your fleet will perform better.

Once you have a good enough tank, the rest of your spare slots should be used to augment your damage potential. While there's such a thing as under-tanked, being over-tanked is not only wasteful in incursions but even dangerous if done at the cost of offence.

See Preparing for Incursions for more information about what skills are needed.

Omni damage and resists

The Sansha incursion rats deal damage in two ways, lasers (EM and thermal) and torpedoes (kinetic and explosive). As such, they hit across all four resist types. While you can sometimes compensate for a low kinetic resist by having a higher explosive resist, or get away with lower resists due to having a small signature and high speed, generally you don't have the luxury of having resist holes in incursions.

Just as they do damage across the board, the Sansha incursion rats have omni tanks as well. The only notable exception is the Lirsautton Parichaya, it's a little weaker against thermal damage and stronger against explosive damage. So contrary to missions where Amarr and Gallente weapons are somewhat limited due to their set damage types, these weapons are not hampered by resists in incursions.

Applied DPS

One of the most important aspects to realize is that whatever DPS (damage per second) your favourite third party fitting tool tells you that you have, or whatever the fitting window ingame tells you, is worth nothing if you cannot apply that damage. Hence the term "applied DPS" as opposed to "paper DPS" which is basically just your potential damage.

Your velocity, your target's velocity, approach vectors, your gun's signature resolution, your target's ship signature, locking speed, locking range, your weapon's optimal and falloff range and tracking all play a vital part in how much of your damage you'll be able to apply on your enemy. See turret damage or the gunnery guide for a more comprehensive introduction to the factors determining how much damage you'll end up doing when you undock and leave your theoretical bubble.

Practically this means that utility modules often make or break fleets.

Utility modules

Utility modules refer to modules you fit that doesn't directly give you a higher dps in your favourite third party fitting program or on your fitting screen ingame. Instead they act as force multipliers of sorts making up for weaknesses or capitalize on strengths for increased efficiency. There are also modules that has no impact on your offensive capabilities, but are invaluable when things go wrong.

Utility midslot Utility medium slots Utility highslot Utility high slots Utility drones Utility drones
Icon sensor resolution.png Sensor Booster II
Icon stasis webifier faction.png Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Icon tracking computer i.png Tracking Computer II
Icon target painter i.png Phased Weapon Navigation Array ...
Icon shield transporter i.png Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
Icon remote capacitor transmitter i.png Large 'Regard' Capacitor Transmitters
Icon auto targeting system i.png Auto Targeting System I
Icon drone link augmentor i.png Drone Link Augmentor I
Icon ISIS weapon Drones.png Heavy Shield Maintenance Bot I
Icon ISIS weapon Drones.png Medium Shield Maintenance Bot I
Icon ISIS weapon Drones.png Light Shield Maintenance Bot I
Icon ISIS weapon Drones.png Light Armor Maintenance Bot I

For vanguards we make sure we have at least one sensor booster and one web. If we have room for more midslots we primarily go for a second web first before looking into other modules. For assaults and up, once you've ensured that you have the locking range needed (potentially requires you to use a sensor booster) and fitted any required propulsion modules. For utility highslots, pick the most important one. So a capacitor transmitter if you run with Basilisks or need a cap chain and a remote shield booster if you run with Scimitars or have no need for a cap chain. Should you have the luxury of having more than one utility highslot, just bring both. If you have no use for either or lack the powergrid to fit them you could use an auto targeter for more locks, drone link augmentor for longer drone control range etc.

When in doubt, just follow the recommended fits on the Vanguard and Assault fitting pages. See Anatomy of Incursions for more information on how you can change these modules around for different tactics based on your fleet composition.

Drones

Drones can be a tremendous asset, if you pick the right ones and use them intelligently. The sum of all the drones in fleet can easily amount to the equivalent of adding an extra pilot or two on grid, so it's not something to treat lightly. See utilizing drones for more information on how to make the most of drones.

When selecting drones you need to factor in how to get the best mix of microwarpdrive and orbital speeds, tracking and optimal range for the type of fleet and sites you run. Amarr drones generally provide the best mix for most situations except for headquarter sites. Below are the drones we recommend within our community.

Recommended drones/site Light drones Medium drones Heavy drones Sentry drones
Vanguard sites Vanguard sites Acolyte II Not recommended Not recommended Garde II [1]
Assault sites Assault sites Acolyte II Infiltrator II Not recommended Curator II [2]
Headquarter sites Headquarter sites [3] Hobgoblin II Hammerhead II Ogre II [4] Not recommended
  1. ^ (Situational) Unbonused sentries have considerably lower tracking and needs to operate at range or stay on cruisers..
  2. ^ (Situational) In order to use Curator II drones you need to remain stationary more often than not. The extra range of curators is needed for the 35 - 65 km engagement range.
  3. ^ Drones are often put on stationary objects in headquarter sites, thus focus shifts from Amarr drones (speed and application) to Gallente drones (maximum damage).
  4. ^ If cost isn't an issue, Gecko or 'Augmented' Ogre drones are preferred due to increased speed and better damage application.

Rigging choice

It's very easy to dismiss the importance of the rig selection when buying a new ship. While it's usually not something a new pilot needs to worry about when getting any of the minimum fits posted on the wiki, it's extremely important for people looking to get a new ship as it heavily influences your options in terms of flexibility and utility slots (which is everything in incursions). Don't spend too much ISK on a temporary setup, either go for a cheap "good enough" setup while you're saving up for your ideal setup, or just wait until you can afford the whole setup you want in the end.

Electromagnetic or thermal rig

In general the electromagnetic rig will free up more midslots, but tends to require fancier deadspace modules to compensate for the overall lower resists. The thermal rig gives you a stronger and more flexible tank without having to rely on the high-end deadspace modules, at the cost of not being able to free up as many midslots.

Defence or offence

Going for offence means that you're limited to a single tech one resist rig in combination to your burst or collision rig, due to the high calibration cost of the tech two damage rigs. Choosing a more defensive setup will allow you to fit a tech two resist rig as well as making full use of the other two rigs. The offensive rigs are usually much cheaper than the defensive ones, but since the offensive setup usually has to up the quality of their deadspace modules to get a comparable resist profile, they're often forced to use higher tiered deadspace mods.

Flexibility vs efficiency vs cost

Given the different needs for tank and utility modules between the different type of sites, most incursion communities go for the most efficient rig setup for the kind of sites they are running. A community running vanguards exclusively often have different setups than those who run headquarters only. Communities that push for high-end fits with expensive deadspace modules usually have different rig selections too, since those stronger modules opens up for a few more options.

Going for the most efficient setup is of course always going to be the strongest way to do it, but sometimes you have to be practical. In our case, within our community, we factor in flexibility and cost a lot more. We want our members to be able to use the same ship for any type of site without having to resort to spending billions on faction and deadspace modules. That doesn't stop people who want to from doing it, but it does mean that some of our recommended fits will differ quite a lot from that of public communities.

Determining a proper tank

There are a few easy ways to determine whether a tank is ok or not. Below are some key aspects that help when you're testing your ship in your favourite third-party fitting tool or if you've taken on the role of waitlist manager and need to quickly gauge whether the fit someone x up with is ok or not.

Resist holes

A lot of ships share a standard resist profile, so they share the same resist holes and have the same issues and weaknesses. Understanding what innate weaknesses a ship has is key to knowing how to best raise it to the desired high average resists mentioned above.

Below is a list of different resist profiles for various ship classes as well as a few specific ships with deviating profiles. The last column lists the obvious weaknesses of the class/hull, which will help you determine how to best achieve the desired resist profile. Plugging a hole is usually a simple matter of adding a resist rig or a combination of a rig and a shield amplifier, then up the resists in general by using one or two invulnerability fields.

Ship Base resist profile Comments
Regular/faction battleships [1] Electromagnetic resistance  0%Thermal resistance20%Kinetic resistance40%Explosive resistance50% An EM hole and a weak thermal resist.
Resist bonused battleships [2] Electromagnetic resistance20%Thermal resistance36%Kinetic resistance52%Explosive resistance60% Weak EM and thermal resists, but no resist holes.
Scimitar Electromagnetic resistance75%Thermal resistance60%Kinetic resistance40%Explosive resistance50% No resist holes.
Basilisk Electromagnetic resistance  0%Thermal resistance80%Kinetic resistance70%Explosive resistance50% An EM hole.
  1. ^ Includes regular battleships, navy and fleet issue battleships as well as pirate faction battleships.
  2. ^ Like the Rokh and other ships with 4% per level resist bonuses. The values are assuming maximum skills, so the full +20% better resists.

Effective shield hit points

You can judge your tank by many means, but for Incursions the best way to measure your tank is to look at effective shield hit points (ESHP), as opposed to damage per second repaired (DPS-tank) or the generic effective hit points (EHP). This is because a lot of ships have significant armour and hull hit points, so the effective hit points value can be quite misleading on a battleship with a damage control for example, as the EHP-value skyrockets compared to a ship without a damage control fitted, but very little of it applies to the actual ESHP. You also need to factor in things like speed and signature, because a smaller ship that is orbiting will be a lot harder to hit than a large, stationary ship. So don't casually compare a ship's effective shield hit points against another without taking that into your consideration.

Shield hit points and resists

While the above mentioned effective shield hit points is a good measure, it is not always practical to use on the fly. For one it doesn't really tell you if the ship has any glaring resist holes, so for practical reasons we tend to speak in more general terms -- Shield hit points and resists. It's much easier to just ask the pilot "How many raw shield hit points do you have?" and "What are your resists if you undock and turn on all your modules?". It's very easy for people to check this ingame and it tells us enough to judge whether or not the fit is ok.

Below are some rough guidelines for what a proper tank might be for a battleship (there isn't much variation to speak of for logistics). The values below are of raw shield hit points and paired average resists (EM/thermal and kinetic/explosive), values before boosts for easy comparison.

Vanguards Vanguards (33k+ effective shield hit points)
70% resists and at least 10,000 raw shield hit points.
Assaults Assaults (40k+ effective shield hit points)
70% resists and at least 12,000 raw shield hit points.
Headquarters Headquarters (52k+ effective shield hit points + 100k effective hit points in total)
73% resists and at least 14,000 raw shield hit points.

Naturally lower shield hit points is doable if you adjust your resists accordingly. Increasing your resists from 70% to 73% will drop the incoming damage from 30% to 27%, a decrease in 10% which means you can get away with at 10% lower shield hit points. In vanguards and assaults it's also possible to drop a little lower in really good fleets. Just remember that resists are far more important than raw shield hit points, as higher resists has the secondary benefit of increasing the efficiency of remote repairs.

Since we focus mainly on low skilled, kitchen sink setups we're going with a relatively higher recommended level for our community than mentioned above, if possible.

Battleship setups

Below are some examples of tank setups for battleships, both the setups we use for our minimum fits as well as some advanced ones for high-end ships.

In order to highlight the transition of each type of fit from vanguards to headquarters, each setup will not only show the vanguard fit in question, but also how it works if you take off some tank as well as what's needed to make that setup work for assaults and headquarters.

Minimum setup

This is the minimum skill setup that we use within our community. It is designed to cheap and flexible enough to be useful in a variety of different sites. For assaults and headquarters, we often use a Large Shield Extender II to ensure that everyone has enough buffer, even with the minimum skills we require.

Slots Vanguard (less tank) [1] Vanguard Assault Headquarter
Icon mid slot.png Icon mid slot.png Freed up mid slot
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II EM Ward Amplifier II
Icon mid slot.png Freed up mid slot
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II EM Ward Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II EM Ward Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier [2]
Icon low slot.png Icon low slot.png Freed up low slot Module icon damage control tech2.png Damage Control II Module icon damage control tech2.png Damage Control II Module icon damage control tech2.png Damage Control II
Icon rigs.png Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II [2]
Normal resist profile. Electromagnetic resistance65,2%Thermal resistance65,7%Kinetic resistance69,0%Explosive resistance74,1% Electromagnetic resistance69,5%Thermal resistance70,0%Kinetic resistance72,8%Explosive resistance77,4% Electromagnetic resistance69,5%Thermal resistance70,0%Kinetic resistance72,8%Explosive resistance77,4% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-%
Resist profile with warfare links active. Electromagnetic resistance67,7%Thermal resistance68,2%Kinetic resistance73,5%Explosive resistance77,9% Electromagnetic resistance71,7%Thermal resistance72,2%Kinetic resistance76,8%Explosive resistance80,7% Electromagnetic resistance71,7%Thermal resistance72,2%Kinetic resistance76,8%Explosive resistance80,7% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-%
  1. ^ In a good fleet with excellent damage projection, with an experienced fleet commander and seasoned logistics, you can usually remove the damage control in favour of more damage mods.
  2. ^ a b This is a necessary upgrade in order to improve overall resists for headquarter sites.

Resist bonused ships

Ships like the Rokh with resist bonuses can fit slightly different as long as Caldari Battleship III (+12% bonus to resists) is trained.

Slots Vanguard (less tank) [1] Vanguard Assault Headquarter
Icon mid slot.png Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Icon mid slot.png Freed up mid slot
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Icon mid slot.png Freed up mid slot
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Icon mid slot.png Freed up mid slot
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II EM Ward Amplifier II
Icon low slot.png Icon low slot.png Freed up low slot Module icon damage control tech2.png Damage Control II Module icon damage control tech2.png Damage Control II Module icon damage control tech2.png Damage Control II
Icon rigs.png Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Normal resist profile. Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-%
Resist profile with warfare links active. Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-%
Resist profile when you're overheating your defensive modules. Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-%
Resist profile if all your defensive modules run out of capacitor and turn off. Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-%
  1. ^ In a good fleet with excellent damage projection, with an experienced fleet commander and seasoned logistics, you can usually remove the damage control in favour of more damage mods.

Advanced fits

While there are several ways to fit high-end ships for incursions, here are some frequently used variants.

Calibration

Due to the limit of calibration points, there are several combinations available. Here are some common ones.

Slots Offensive Defensive Warp speed
Icon mid slot.png Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Hybrid Burst Aerator II Large Hybrid Burst Aerator II
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II
Icon mid slot.png Spare rig slot
Icon mid slot.png Spare rig slot
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Icon mid slot.png Spare rig slot
SUM 350/350 (0 points left) 75/350 (275 points left) 150/350 (200 points left)

Filling up the spare rig slots is a matter of figuring out what rig benefits you the most, based on the type of fleet compositions you run, what kind of ship you fly and if a rig can in some way help you free up a low- or midslot. If you need more range use a Locus Coordinator II rig (150 points), if you need more shield hit points use a Core Defense Field Extender II rig (75 points) and if you need more cap use either a Capacitor Control Circuit II rig (150 points) or a Discharge Elutriation II rig (150 points).

Just remember that any offensive rig you fit on your ship needs to be tech two, otherwise it'll end up at the end of stacking penalties and that will render it completely useless.

Thermal rig

The thermal rig setup is primarily a more defensive setup, used for even resists with the ability to really push the resists up. The downside of this setup is that you're forced to use two midslots and cannot drop down to one midslot for vanguards. Depending on what other rigs you use, you'll have enough calibration points to upgrade to a tech two anti-thermal rig further increasing your tank.

Slots Vanguard Assault Headquarter Headquarter (alternative) [1]
Icon mid slot.png Icon mid slot.png Freed up mid slot
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invuln ...
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Icon mid slot.png Freed up mid slot
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invuln ...
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invuln ...
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Icon mid slot.png Freed up mid slot
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invuln ... [2]
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier Pithum A-Type EM Ward Amplifier [2]
Icon low slot.png Icon low slot.png Freed up low slot Module icon damage control tech2.png Damage Control II Module icon damage control tech2.png Damage Control II Module icon damage control tech2.png Damage Control II
Icon rigs.png Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Normal resist profile. Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-%
Resist profile with warfare links active. Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-%
Resist profile when you're overheating your defensive modules. Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-%
Resist profile if all your defensive modules run out of capacitor and turn off. Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-%
  1. ^ This alternative is only suitable for ships with a high native shield hit point count like the Nightmare, since it can't really push resists higher without using additional slots (at which point the other option is cheaper and more flexible).
  2. ^ a b This is a necessary upgrade in order to get enough resists with just one invulnerability field for headquarter sites.

Electromagnetic rig

The EM rig setup is primarily used to free up as many slots are possible, but requires you to spend considerably more ISK on deadspace hardeners and will still have considerably lower resists for vanguards.

Slots Vanguard (much less tank) [1] Vanguard (less tank) [2] Assault Headquarter
Icon mid slot.png Icon mid slot.png Freed up mid slot
Icon mid slot.png Freed up mid slot
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invuln ...
Icon mid slot.png Freed up mid slot
Icon mid slot.png Freed up mid slot
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invuln ...
Icon mid slot.png Freed up mid slot
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invuln ...
Icon mid slot.png Freed up mid slot
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invuln ... [3]
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invuln ...
Icon low slot.png Icon low slot.png Freed up low slot Module icon damage control tech2.png Damage Control II Module icon damage control tech2.png Damage Control II Module icon damage control tech2.png Damage Control II
Icon rigs.png Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Normal resist profile. Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-%
Resist profile with warfare links active. Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-%
Resist profile when you're overheating your defensive modules. Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-%
Resist profile if all your defensive modules run out of capacitor and turn off. Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-% Electromagnetic resistance-%Thermal resistance-%Kinetic resistance-%Explosive resistance-%
  1. ^ In a really good fleet with excellent damage projection, with an experienced fleet commander and seasoned logistics, you can usually remove the damage control in favour of more damage mods.
  2. ^ This setup is considerably weaker than your average vanguard setup and relies heavily on higher applied damage to mitigate incoming damage by killing them before they get into optimal range.
  3. ^ This is a necessary upgrade in order to get your EM and thermal resists up to an acceptable level for headquarter sites, especially if you run with less than recommended shield hit points.

Strategic cruisers and command ships

While a lot of communities avoid strategic cruisers and command ships due to the fact that their damage output cannot match that of pirate faction battleships, we still allow them as they can easily match the efficiency of tech one battleships. As such, we welcome properly fit strategic cruisers and command ships in our community, as they are good enough for our purposes and we don't benefit from alienating people who prefer to fly smaller ships.

Just be sure to inform people that if they have plans to fly with public communities, they will most likely need to train into a proper battleship.

Different resist profiles

One of the biggest differences fitting strategic cruisers and command ships compared to battleships is that they have a different resist profile. They are also much smaller in signature, especially the strategic cruisers, so won't need the same raw buffer of shield hit points either. As such, the solution could range from anything between a thermal and EM hardener for the Legion to a mere anti-EM rig on the Tengu or an invulnerability field for the Sleipnir.

Ship Base resist profile Comments
Astarte / Proteus Electromagnetic resistance  0%Thermal resistance60%Kinetic resistance85%Explosive resistance50% An EM hole.
Legion Electromagnetic resistance  0%Thermal resistance20%Kinetic resistance70%Explosive resistance87,5% An EM hole and weak thermal resists.
Loki [1] Electromagnetic resistance80%Thermal resistance60%Kinetic resistance52%Explosive resistance60% No resist holes.
Sleipnir Electromagnetic resistance75%Thermal resistance60%Kinetic resistance40%Explosive resistance50% No resist holes.
Tengu [1] Electromagnetic resistance20%Thermal resistance84%Kinetic resistance76%Explosive resistance60% Weak EM resists.
Vulture Electromagnetic resistance  0%Thermal resistance80%Kinetic resistance70%Explosive resistance50% An EM hole.
  1. ^ a b This is with the resist bonused defensive subsystem fitted.