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You get a '''weapon timer''' whenever you use an offensive module against another player (including webs, painters, damps, scrams, points, turrets, missiles, drones etc). This effect also happens when using a '''bastion'''-module on a marauder (but not for other siege-like modules) as well as activation of '''Command Burst'''-modules. Unlike the '''capsuleer log-off timer''', you do not get this flag simply by being shot by another player. | You get a '''weapon timer''' whenever you use an offensive module against another player (including webs, painters, damps, scrams, points, turrets, missiles, drones etc). This effect also happens when using a '''bastion'''-module on a marauder (but not for other siege-like modules) as well as activation of '''Command Burst'''-modules. Unlike the '''capsuleer log-off timer''', you do not get this flag simply by being shot by another player. | ||
| − | This timer behaves differently depending on what kind of offensive action you're taking. An immediate action such as firing a volley with your turrets or missiles as well as drones firing will instantly start the 60 second timer from the moment of the cycle starting. It would then re-initiate for each cycle, but at the start of the cycle when you activate the module. Modules with persistent effects such as webs, painters, damps, scrams and bastion mode, will both start the weapon timer upon activation as well as keeping it at 60 seconds for the duration of the module and won't start counting down until the cycle and effect is gone. The [[Command Burst]] module is an exception to this | + | This timer behaves differently depending on what kind of offensive action you're taking. An immediate action such as firing a volley with your turrets or missiles as well as drones firing will instantly start the 60 second timer from the moment of the cycle starting. It would then re-initiate for each cycle, but at the start of the cycle when you activate the module. Modules with persistent effects such as webs, painters, damps, scrams and bastion mode, will both start the weapon timer upon activation as well as keeping it at 60 seconds for the duration of the module and won't start counting down until the cycle and effect is gone. The [[Command Burst]] module is an exception to this; it starts the weapon timer upon activation and will disappear at the end of the cycle and long before the burst effect dissipates. |
While this timer is active you cannot change sessions, which means you cannot jump, dock or eject from, store, refit or switch ships. You also cannot be tethered by '''Upwell Structures''' such as [[Citadel]]s or [[Engineering Complexes]] as long as you have a weapon timer. | While this timer is active you cannot change sessions, which means you cannot jump, dock or eject from, store, refit or switch ships. You also cannot be tethered by '''Upwell Structures''' such as [[Citadel]]s or [[Engineering Complexes]] as long as you have a weapon timer. | ||
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A brief overview about the basics of timers and their impact on capsuleers in empire space.
Combat and legality timers
The Retribution expansion introduced a new and improved timers system called Crimewatch 2.0, which greatly improve upon the previous one by getting rid of the Global Countdown Timer and generally streamlining the system via the use of specific flags.
It's very important to be aware of and understand what the different timers mean and what the implications are in terms of legality. Timers can easily wreak havoc in the fleet causing issues with rules of engagements and remote assistance.
See CCP's support page on Crimewatch for more details on the more intricate mechanics of legal timers.
Combat Timers
The following timers have no direct impact on the legality of actions, but serve as a consequence for your actions. Keep in mind that the capsuleer log-off timer can indirectly cause legality issues if you are also at war.
Non-Capsuleer Log-Off Timer
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Non-Capsuleer Log-Off Timer a.k.a. NPC-flag Cause: Combat with a non-capsuleer Consequence: Ship will remain in space on log-off until timer expires (5 minutes) |
The non-capsuleer log-off timer is created when you either shoot or get shot by an NPC.
This means you will remain in space if you disconnect or close the client, until the timer runs out. The NPC timer will not be renewed if you are shot while already having disconnected or logged off.
Capsuleer Log-Off Timer
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Capsuleer Log-Off Timer a.k.a. PvP-flag (complicated timer, see comments below) Cause: Combat with another capsuleer. Consequence: Ship will remain in space on log-off until timer expires (15 minutes). |
The capsuleer log-off timer is created when you either shoot or get shot by a fellow capsuleer.
This means you will remain in space if you disconnect or close the client, until the timer runs out. The timer will be renewed if you are shot while already having disconnected or logged off. So if someone finds you after you logged out they can keep your ship in space indefinitely.
When your corporation or alliance is at war, the capsuleer log-off timer becomes deceptively dangerous in mixed fleets, see while at war below.
Weapon Timer
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Weapons Timer Cause: Aggression against another capsuleer. Consequence: Unable to dock or use stargates (60 seconds). |
You get a weapon timer whenever you use an offensive module against another player (including webs, painters, damps, scrams, points, turrets, missiles, drones etc). This effect also happens when using a bastion-module on a marauder (but not for other siege-like modules) as well as activation of Command Burst-modules. Unlike the capsuleer log-off timer, you do not get this flag simply by being shot by another player.
This timer behaves differently depending on what kind of offensive action you're taking. An immediate action such as firing a volley with your turrets or missiles as well as drones firing will instantly start the 60 second timer from the moment of the cycle starting. It would then re-initiate for each cycle, but at the start of the cycle when you activate the module. Modules with persistent effects such as webs, painters, damps, scrams and bastion mode, will both start the weapon timer upon activation as well as keeping it at 60 seconds for the duration of the module and won't start counting down until the cycle and effect is gone. The Command Burst module is an exception to this; it starts the weapon timer upon activation and will disappear at the end of the cycle and long before the burst effect dissipates.
While this timer is active you cannot change sessions, which means you cannot jump, dock or eject from, store, refit or switch ships. You also cannot be tethered by Upwell Structures such as Citadels or Engineering Complexes as long as you have a weapon timer.
Legality Timers
The following timers directly determine whether or not you are a legal target.
Suspect Timer
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Suspect Timer Cause: Committed a "suspect"-level offense. Consequence: Capsuleers may freely engage (15 minutes). |
The suspect timer means that anyone can freely attack you without CONCORD interfering. If someone engages you, a limited engagement timer is created between both of you, to allow you to shoot back at the aggressor. This causes issues with assistance however, due to interfering with a limited engagement (for more information, see limited engagement below).
Criminal Timer
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Criminal Timer Cause: Committed a "criminal"-level offense. Consequence: Capsuleers may freely engage. CONCORD will engage in high-sec space (15 minutes). |
The criminal timer means that anyone can freely attack you without CONCORD interfering.
If someone engages you, a limited engagement timer is created between both of you, to allow you to shoot back at the aggressor. This causes issues with assistance however, due to interfering with a limited engagement (for more information, see limited engagement below).
Consequences of being a criminal
Being a criminal means that CONCORD will engage and kill you in high security space. The response-time of CONCORD depends on the security of space, anything between a few seconds up to half a minute. During that time, while piloting a ship with a criminal flag you'll be unable to enter warp, jump through gates, dock up in stations, eject from, store or switch ships. Those restrictions are lifted once your ship is destroyed and you're in your capsule. That doesn't necessarily mean you can do these things, as all those actions (with the exception of warping away) would also be prohibited by an active weapon timer.
Being a criminal in low security space is practically the same as being a suspect, as long as you or anyone who assists you have no plans of jumping into high security space for the next fifteen minutes.
Jumping into or undocking a ship in high security space as a criminal will allow you to benefit from the session change timer invulnerability, but it only delays the inevitable demise of your ship. Even if your criminal timer runs out during the invulnerability, CONCORD will still follow through and destroy your ship, even though you're no longer a criminal when the invulnerability wears off.
Limited Engagement Timer
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Limited Engagement Timer Cause: Involved in a limited engagement with 1 pilot (or any number of pilots). Consequence: These pilots may freely engage you while timer is active (5 minutes). |
A limited engagement is a permission between two pilots to freely engage each other or their assets in combat without interference of CONCORD. Limited Engagements are created on attacks towards other pilots that are under a suspect or criminal flag to allow them to defend themselves, but can also be gained from accepting a Duel Request.
Consequences of being in a limited engagement
As long as a limited engagement is active, the involved pilots may freely engage each other, including attacks on capsules or any other assets. Any other pilot interfering in the combat between two pilots with active limited engagements, such as using remote support modules on one of the parties, will receive a suspect flag for the interference.
Naturally in null security space or wormhole space, where you are allowed to freely engage anyone at any time, there would be no legality issues and no timers apart from the combat timers would be created in the first place.
Remote assistance, combat timers and legality
- Main article: Remote assistance
Whenever you remotely assist someone, you will automatically inherit all the combat timers of the one you're assisting. Using remote assistance to interfere in a fight between two parties, aiding a suspect or an outlaw is usually a 
Suspect offence and assisting criminals is a 
Criminal offence.
Other Timers
Session Change Timer (SCT)
The SCT is a 10 second timer initiated after performing one of the following things:
- jumping through a stargate, wormhole or jump bridge
- using a jump drive
- docking or undocking
- joining a fleet or moving to a different command position within that fleet
- upon booster/role changes applied to you in that fleet
- leaving your ship, either through ejecting or having it destroyed
- boarding a ship
- performing a clone jump
- being podded
- joining or leaving a corporation
- changing corp wallet divisions
Whilst the SCT is active it prevents you from doing any of the things that cause a session change timer (i.e. anything on the list above), and will give you a sometimes amusing error message. Some of these things, if you attempt them with the SCT active, will 'queue', and will be executed as soon as it wears off.
The SCT is displayed in the top left corner of your screen. The exact time remaining will be displayed upon mouse-over.
Examples of the SCT in action:
1: You are scouting lo-sec systems in a CovOps for a fleet and the FC moves you to another wing or squad without telling you. You arrive on a stargate to jump through, but the SCT prevents you from jumping. Unfortunately there happened to be a hostile there, and because you were decloaked by the stargate, you are destroyed.
2: You are fighting on a wormhole and your ship is destroyed. You attempt to jump your capsule through the wormhole to get away, but your SCT from your ship being destroyed prevents you jumping (and so your capsule is destroyed too!).
Station undock invulnerability timer
The game grants you a 30 second protection after undocking. If you do not activate any modules, or target anyone, or move your ship in any direction after undocking you cannot be targeted or bumped at all for 30 seconds. This can be used to wait out your SCT and re-dock.
You can still press Ctrl+Space to stop your ship (or click the small - icon on the HUD) and retain your invulnerability, this action does not break it.
Important note: There are certain stations that will eject you (kick-out) outside of docking range and prevent you from using this tactic without reapproaching the station's docking radius. A prominent example would be the old EVE-University HQ at Aldrat IX – Pator Tech School. Even if you immediately stop your ship on undocking, by the time your SCT has worn off you are likely to be out of immediate docking range
Gate cloak timer
After jumping through a stargate or wormhole you will have an SCT for 10 seconds, however the entire gate cloak timer is 60 seconds. For this entire 1 minute period you are invulnerable to damage from such effects as bombs, smartbombs and ECM Bursts. For the entire duration of the cloak you cannot be de-cloaked by someone coming within 2000 meters. For the entire period you cannot be bumped to cause you to lose your cloak.
You are effectively completely invulnerable and invisible - however, the gate or wormhole will have flashed to signify a ship has jumped through it (and in k-space you will immediately appear in Local chat), so if anyone happens to be watching they are likely to know you are there.
This timer allows you a period of safety to scout out the system, with d-scan or otherwise, before deciding what course of action to take.
Logout timer
When logging out in space, your ship (if not warp-disrupted/scrambled) will warp off to a random location and remain there for 1 minute until disappearing.
This timer will extend to 5 minutes if you were involved in combat with NPC ships.
It will get extended to 15 minutes if you were involved in pvp, whether it you being aggressive or being aggressed by someone else. Should your ship be destroyed during this time, another 15 minute timer applying to your pod will start.
Wormhole polarization timer
You can make a maximum of 2 jumps through a specific wormhole in 5 minutes. If you try to jump a third time through the same wormhole inside those 5 minutes, you will receive a message informing you how long you have to wait before you can jump again. This timer doesn't apply to jumping through different wormholes.
Trade modification timer
When you place or modify a buy or sell order in the market, you will not be allowed to modify that order or delete that order until 5 minutes have elapsed.
Corporation roles & titles timer
While the timer does still exist, members can quit corporation even without waiting 24 hours after dropping roles by right clicking their portrait in chat and choosing quit corporation? and confirm quit corporation.
Character termination timer
If you choose to terminate one of the characters owned by your account, it will enter the recycling queue for a 10 hour waiting period. When the 10 hour timer expires, you can complete the termination of the character and re-use the slot for a new character.
