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== Checking the calculations on Distribution missions ==
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As of 2 march 2022 [[distribution missions]] has the folowwing table
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
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|+ style="text-align:left; font-size:110%"| Fast Industrials
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|-
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! style="text-align:left;padding-left:10px;visibility:none;" width="120px" |
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! width="90px" colspan=3 | Ship Base
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! width="90px" |
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! width="90px" colspan=3 | {{tooltip|Suggested Fit [[File:Small Info.png|16px|link=]]|Assuming all skills V<br>Expanded Cargohold II to &gt;5 000{{m3}}<br>Remaining low slots Inertial Stabilizer II<br>All Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II rigs}}
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|-
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! style="text-align:left;padding-left:10px;" width="120px" | Ship
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! width="90px" | Capacity
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! width="90px" | Time to Warp
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! width="90px" | Warp Speed
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! width="90px" | Low Slots
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! width="90px" | Capacity
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! width="90px" | Time to Warp
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! width="90px" | Warp Speed
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|-
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| style="text-align:left;padding-left:10px;" | {{icon|isis amarr|22}}[[Sigil]] || 2100{{m3}} || 13.11s || 4.5AU/s || 6 || 5441{{m3}} || 3.89s || 7.82AU/s
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|-
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| style="text-align:left;padding-left:10px;" | {{icon|isis caldari|22}}[[Badger]] || 3900{{m3}} || 13.88s || 4.5AU/s || 4 || 6216{{m3}} || 4.11s || 7.82AU/s
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|-
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| style="text-align:left;padding-left:10px;" | {{icon|isis gallente|22}}[[Nereus]] || 2700{{m3}} || 12.16s || 4.5AU/s || 5 || 5486{{m3}} || 3.61s || 7.82AU/s
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|-
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| style="text-align:left;padding-left:10px;" | {{icon|isis minmatar|22}}[[Wreathe]] || 2700{{m3}} || 11.23s || 4.5AU/s || 5 || 5893{{m3}} || 3.33s || 7.82AU/s
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|}
  
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The Suggested fit part is based on:
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* all skills on level V
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* as many Expanded Cargohold II as needed to get the cargohold capacity over 5,000{{m3}}
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* fitting all remaining low slots with Inertial Stabilizer II
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* fitting all possible Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II rigs
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Racial industrial bonuses for all ships in the table are:
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* 5% to cargo capacity per level
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* 5% to inertia modifier per level
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All ships have 3 medium rig slots and 400 calibration.
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=== Stacking penalty ===
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According to [[Stacking penalties]] the following numbers are in effect:
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* 1st mod: 100.0% effectiveness
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* 2nd mod: ~86.9% effectiveness
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* 3rd mod: ~57.1% effectiveness
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* 4th mod: ~28.3% effectiveness
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* 5th mod: ~10.6% effectiveness
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* 6th mod: ~3.0% effectiveness
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== Suggested fit based on Sigil ==
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=== Warp speed ===
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* Base warp speed 4.5AU/s
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* Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
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** Warp speed bonus 25%
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** Stacking penalty in effect
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** cost 75 calibration
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Based on this we can fit 3 Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
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|+ Warp speed calculation
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! # rigs
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! Stacking effectiveness
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! Speed bonus
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! Warp speed
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|-
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| 0
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| N/A
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| 0%
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|4,5AU/s
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|-
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| 1
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| 100%
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| 25%
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| 5.625AU/S
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|-
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| 2
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| 86.9%
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| 21.725%
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| 6.847AU/s
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|-
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| 3
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| 57.1%
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| 14.275%
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| 7.824AU/s
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|}
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=== Capacity ===
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* Base capacity 2,100{{m3}}
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* {{Sk|Amarr Industrial|V}}
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* Expanded Cargohold II
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** Capacity bonus 27.5%
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
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|+ Capacity calculation
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|-
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! # modules
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! Capacity bonus
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! Capacity
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! Capacity with<br>skill bonus
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|-
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| 0
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| N/A
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| 2,100{{m3}}
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| 2625{{m3}}
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|-
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| 1
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| 27.5%
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| 2677.5{{m3}}
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| 3346.88{{m3}}
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|-
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| 2
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| 27.5%
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| 3413.81{{m3}}
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| 4267.27{{m3}}
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|-
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| 3
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| 27.5%
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| 4352.61{{m3}}
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| 5440.76{{m3}}
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|-
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| 4
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| 27.5%
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| 5549.58{{m3}}
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| 6936.97{{m3}}
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|}
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=== Time to warp ===
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Based om mass and Inertia Modifier
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* Mass: 11,000,000kg
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* Inertia modifier: 0.86
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* Formula from [[Acceleration#Accelerating to warp|Acceleration]]
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* {{Sk|Amarr Industrial|V}}
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* Inertial Stabilizer II
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** Inertia modifier bonus -20%
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** Stackin penalty in effect
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
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|+ Time to warp calculation
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|-
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! # modules
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! Stacking effectiveness
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! Inertia Modifier<br>bonus
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! Inertia modifier
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! TTW
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! Inertia modifier with<br>skill bonus
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! TTW
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|-
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| 0
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| N/A
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| N/A
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| 0.86
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| 13.11s
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| 0.645
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| 9.84s
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|-
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| 1
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| 100%
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| -20%
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| 0.688
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| 10.49s
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| 0.515
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| 7.85s
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|-
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| 2
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| 86.9%
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| -14.4
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| 0.5682
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| 8.66s
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| 0.4262
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| 6.50s
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|-
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| 3
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| 57.1%
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| -11.4
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| 0.5035
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| 7.68s
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| 0.3776
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| 5.76s
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|}
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== Difference ==
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
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|+ Difference between [[Distribution missions]] and my calculations
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|-
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!
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! colspan=4 | Capacity
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! colspan=4 | Time to warp
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|-
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! Ship
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! Original
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! Me
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! Low slots
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! Reason
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! Low slots
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! Original
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! Me
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! Reason
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|-
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| {{Sh|Sigil}}
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| 5441{{m3}}
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| 5440{{m3}}
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| 3
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| Rounding
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| 3
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| 3.89s
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| 5.76s
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|
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|-
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| {{Sh|Badger}}
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| 6216{{m3}}
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| 6215{{m3}}
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| 1
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| Rounding
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| 3
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| 4.11s
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| 6.09s
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|
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|-
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| {{Sh|Nereus}}
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| 5486{{m3}}
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| 5486{{m3}}
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| 2
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|
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| 3
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| 3.61s
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| 5.34
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|
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|-
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| {{Sh|Wreathe}}
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| 5893{{m3}}
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| 5486{{m3}}
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| 2
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| Base capacity changed
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| 3
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| 3.31s
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| 4.93s
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|
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|}

Revision as of 15:30, 2 March 2022

Checking the calculations on Distribution missions

As of 2 march 2022 distribution missions has the folowwing table

Fast Industrials
Ship Base Suggested Fit Small Info.pngAssuming all skills V
Expanded Cargohold II to >5 000 m3
Remaining low slots Inertial Stabilizer II
All Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II rigs
Ship Capacity Time to Warp Warp Speed Low Slots Capacity Time to Warp Warp Speed
Isis amarr.pngSigil 2100 m3 13.11s 4.5AU/s 6 5441 m3 3.89s 7.82AU/s
Isis caldari.pngBadger 3900 m3 13.88s 4.5AU/s 4 6216 m3 4.11s 7.82AU/s
Isis gallente.pngNereus 2700 m3 12.16s 4.5AU/s 5 5486 m3 3.61s 7.82AU/s
Isis minmatar.pngWreathe 2700 m3 11.23s 4.5AU/s 5 5893 m3 3.33s 7.82AU/s

The Suggested fit part is based on:

  • all skills on level V
  • as many Expanded Cargohold II as needed to get the cargohold capacity over 5,000 m3
  • fitting all remaining low slots with Inertial Stabilizer II
  • fitting all possible Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II rigs

Racial industrial bonuses for all ships in the table are:

  • 5% to cargo capacity per level
  • 5% to inertia modifier per level

All ships have 3 medium rig slots and 400 calibration.

Stacking penalty

According to Stacking penalties the following numbers are in effect:

  • 1st mod: 100.0% effectiveness
  • 2nd mod: ~86.9% effectiveness
  • 3rd mod: ~57.1% effectiveness
  • 4th mod: ~28.3% effectiveness
  • 5th mod: ~10.6% effectiveness
  • 6th mod: ~3.0% effectiveness


Suggested fit based on Sigil

Warp speed

  • Base warp speed 4.5AU/s
  • Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
    • Warp speed bonus 25%
    • Stacking penalty in effect
    • cost 75 calibration

Based on this we can fit 3 Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Warp speed calculation
# rigs Stacking effectiveness Speed bonus Warp speed
0 N/A 0% 4,5AU/s
1 100% 25% 5.625AU/S
2 86.9% 21.725% 6.847AU/s
3 57.1% 14.275% 7.824AU/s

Capacity

  • Base capacity 2,100 m3
  • [[Skills:Amarr Industrial V]]
  • Expanded Cargohold II
    • Capacity bonus 27.5%
Capacity calculation
# modules Capacity bonus Capacity Capacity with
skill bonus
0 N/A 2,100 m3 2625 m3
1 27.5% 2677.5 m3 3346.88 m3
2 27.5% 3413.81 m3 4267.27 m3
3 27.5% 4352.61 m3 5440.76 m3
4 27.5% 5549.58 m3 6936.97 m3

Time to warp

Based om mass and Inertia Modifier

  • Mass: 11,000,000kg
  • Inertia modifier: 0.86
  • Formula from Acceleration
  • [[Skills:Amarr Industrial V]]
  • Inertial Stabilizer II
    • Inertia modifier bonus -20%
    • Stackin penalty in effect
Time to warp calculation
# modules Stacking effectiveness Inertia Modifier
bonus 		Inertia modifier TTW Inertia modifier with
skill bonus 		TTW
0 N/A N/A 0.86 13.11s 0.645 9.84s
1 100% -20% 0.688 10.49s 0.515 7.85s
2 86.9% -14.4 0.5682 8.66s 0.4262 6.50s
3 57.1% -11.4 0.5035 7.68s 0.3776 5.76s


Difference

Difference between Distribution missions and my calculations
Capacity Time to warp
Ship Original Me Low slots Reason Low slots Original Me Reason
Amarr Sigil 5441 m3 5440 m3 3 Rounding 3 3.89s 5.76s
Caldari Badger 6216 m3 6215 m3 1 Rounding 3 4.11s 6.09s
Gallente Nereus 5486 m3 5486 m3 2 3 3.61s 5.34
Minmatar Wreathe 5893 m3 5486 m3 2 Base capacity changed 3 3.31s 4.93s
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