Creating an Alt Hauler
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Stuck in station, unable to purchase the items you need?
Looking at hauling as a means to running trade routes?
Note: EvE University members can create an alt shopper. No training required. Just sit the Out-Of-Corp alt in Jita and use the E-UNI shipping services to deliver to the campus of your choice. Buy with the alt, contract goods to your E-UNI main, and then contract to the shipping service.
Hauling can be a great way to earn ISK doing profitable trade runs. By reading this guide, you will learn how to create the quickest, most efficient hauler. This guide can be considered a current, text version of the Alt Hauling 101 audio class.
Our goal is to be able to haul the greatest volume of cargo (measured in m3) in the least amount of training time from a new character's perspective. This guide shows you some basic skill training plans that you can customize using a program such as EVEMon.
Note: You cannot train the skills for any of the Industrial ships on Trial accounts.
Hauler Table
Here is a table of suggested haulers for all types of cargo, showing their cargo capacity in m3 and approximate training time. All low slots should be filled with Expanded Cargohold IIs, and then with both Cargohold Expander IIs and Medium Cargohold Optimization I rigs (these modules increase a ship's cargo capacity). Training time assumes a new character created after the Vanguard patch (new players given 400,000 starting skill points). A remap should be saved, as there is much less training to be completed than pre-Vanguard. Also note there is no longer any training necessary to fit Expanded Cargohold II, as Hull Upgrades II is provided to new characters.
The Ody-1.1 industrial rebalance gave the Bestower the highest potential cargo, the Mammoth, the fastest travel time, the Tayra a launcher and highest base cargohold and made the Iteron Mark V average all-around due to the conversion of the Iteron Mark 2/3/4 into specialized ships for minerals, planetary commodities and ore.[1]
With Expanded Cargohold IIs |
With both Expanded Cargohold IIs and Medium Cargohold Optimization I rigs | ||||
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Ship |
Race |
Cargo m3 |
Estimated Training Time (No Remap) |
Cargo m3 |
Estimated Training Time (No Remap) |
Bestower |
Amarr |
21,652 |
None |
32,929 |
~12h 57m |
Tayra |
Caldari |
20,256 |
None |
30,807 |
~12h 57m |
Mammoth |
Minmatar |
18,532 |
None |
28,184 |
~12h 57m |
Iteron Mark V |
Gallente |
20,520 |
None |
31,208 |
~12h 57m |
Weighing Training Time Against How Much You Want to Haul
The Bestower is the top hauler for general cargo. The Bestower carries less specific cargo than the modified haulers with special bays for ore, etc like the Kryos and Miasmos. The Bestower is also a good choice if you want to use the tech 1 industrial with the highest possible general cargo capacity in the game.
Hauling safely is still a concern with all haulers. The 4 general purpose, large capacity haulers can only fit three meta 4 Medium shield extenders and end up with around 6,000 ehp +/- depending on the race. One recommendation is to only carry 3 to 5 million isk in value per 1,000 of ehp. Another recommendation is the 50 million isk maximum collateral for T1 industrial haulers used by eve hauling company MicroPush.[2] If you carry too much cargo value often enough, you will lose your ship.
(See also Hauling ships)
Preparing for Training
It is important to read this section as it will save you a lot of time and frustrations. Before you even create a character, there are many things to consider: The race of your character, whether you have other characters in the account and if you want to do a neural remap.
Racial Characters
Following the Odyssey expansion, the choice of Race, bloodline and ancestry has no effect on the training time. Racial Frigate III is no longer a requirement for Racial Industrial I. A character of any race can train to Amarr Industrial III and get a Bestower. Then proceed to training Spaceship Command I-V and Advanced Spaceship Command I-V to get an Amarr Freighter. Or with less than 18 hours of additional training that character can then train into another racial freighter.
Creating an Alt on an Existing Account
If you are creating an alt on an account with other characters, it is important to note that only one character can be training skills at a time unless you are willing to pay for Multiple Character Training. Attempting to add skills to the training queue will result in an error, so you will need to pause training on your currently training character.
Dual Character Training, introduced in the June 2013 Odyssey expansion, allowed a player to train two characters on the same account for one month for the cost of an additional PLEX. That became Multiple Character Training in late 2013, so you can now train both alts at the same time, and can purchase more than one month of alt training. For more info see Dual Character Training
Neural Remaps
You can decrease the training time required by remapping your attributes. You get 3 remaps total in your first year, so you can afford to remap Int (27)/Mem (21) and train any core skills you need followed by a remap to Per (27)/Will (21) to train the spaceship command skills to fly your ship.
Skill Books
Since the Vanguard patch, new players are given a suite of skills already trained, thus the only skillbooks recommended are:
- Jury Rigging: 60,000 (optional)
- Astronautics Rigging: 20,000 (optional)
- Total: 80,000
Training Plan for any Industrial
Following the Vanguard patch, there is no longer any training required to fly a T1 racial industrial with Expanded Cargohold IIs.
Training Plan for a Rigged Industrial
With the additional skills provided automatically to new characters by the Vanguard patch, it is not recommended to use a neural remap for the small amount of time gained on training.
Without remaps, you should be able to pilot a rigged Industrial around 12 hours 57 minutes.
- Mechanics III (3h, 39m)
- Jury Rigging I (16m)
- Jury Rigging II (1h, 17m)
- Jury Rigging III (7h, 19m)
- Astronautics Rigging I (25m)
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Mechanics III Jury Rigging I Jury Rigging II Jury Rigging III Astronautics Rigging I
When this is done, you will be able to pilot a Industrial that can fit Expanded Cargohold IIs and Cargohold Optimization I rigs for 32,929 m3 of cargo space. With another 2 hours of training you could reach Racial Industrial II and haul 5% more cargo.
Bestower
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Prior to the June 2013 Odyssey expansion, the best route to take was to create an Amarr character to fly the Bestower, which can haul over 21,652 m3 with a minimally trained set of skills. Now any T1 industrial can now be trained in the same amount of time because Racial Frigate III was removed as a prerequisite. 5,
Mammoth
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The Mammoth is the Minmatar version and with Odyssey 1.1, it has the fastest travel time of the 4 industrials.
Iteron Mark V
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As of Ody-1.1 the Iteron Mark V has the 2nd largest cargohold of all industrials and was rebalanced to be "Average" to balance for the new specialized Gallente haulers, Kryos, Epithal and Miasmos. Since the June 2013 Odyssey expansion, it can now be flown immediately having only to train Gallente Industrial I. With hull upgrades II and rigging skills, it can easily carry a full jetcan for mining operations, even with only 2 medium cargohold optimization rigs, but a Miasmos might be a better choice for hauling ore since it's ore bay is larger and requires no cargo optimization rigs.
Tayra
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The Tayra was formerly known as the Badger Mark II and was somewhat overlooked out of all of the racial haulers due to pre-odyssey training times and lower capacity than the Bestower and Iteron Mark V. After the Odyssey expansion, it is now possible to fly a Tayra with only Caldari Industrial I. Tayra is the only one of the 4 that has a launcher hardpoint. Tayra has the largest base cargohold of the 4, while the Bestower has the highest potential cargohold with cargohold expanders.
Fitting Haulers
Haulers are relatively straightforward to fit.For ore hauling, you will want to have maximum cargo capacity, meaning you want to fit Expanded Cargoholds in low slots and Cargohold Optimization in rigs.
For courier missions, you might want to have faster align and warp speed, so you might want to fit Nanofiber Internal Structures and Inertia Stabilizers in low slots and Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer in rigs.
If you wish, you can train skills to equip shield mods such as Shield Extenders and Invulnerability Fields in the mid slots to tank belt rats for a short time. It is also worth while to train skills for these modules to give some basic protection against high-sec ganking.
Optimize with Giant Secure Containers
There are items called Giant Secure Containers (GSC) which take up 3,000 m3 in your cargo hold. The interesting thing is that you can actually put 3,900 m3 of stuff in a GSC - which means you get a 30% space bonus.
Note: To use these, you do not need to train the skill Anchoring, unless you plan to place ("anchor") them in space. This skill has no prerequisites but is a 3x skill, so it will probably take about half an hour to train if you do plan to anchor your GSCs. However not having them anchored (in space) will enable other people to flip the can and even scoop the entire GSC to their cargo hold.
Note : Giant Secure Cans are great but with a minor limitation, they cannot store some goods like frozen food, livestock. So keep this in mind if you are using these containers to haul goods.
Advanced Hauling and earning ISK via Hauling
The next step after mastering industrial hauling are Freighters and Transports. This section will discuss training toward flying these sorts of ships, including how fastest to train toward them.
You can use outside databases, such as EVE-Central, to find profitable trade routes.
To take the first steps in making ISK with your new hauler, you might consider playing the market or running Level 4 Cargo Missions.
Credits
- Raddick Tseng for suggesting this, and giving some interesting statistics.
See also
- Hauling 101
- Advanced Hauling
- Using Eve-Central to haul profitably
- Making Money with Hauling - Level 4 Cargo Missions
References
- ^ Odyssey 1.1 - Tech 1 Industrials, Round 2
- ^ PushX Rates (no endorsement intended)