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On this page, you will find a list of commonly asked questions regarding [[Abyssal Deadspace]]. If your question is not on this page, please head over to the Abyssal Community Discord channel and ask there. Ping a [[Community Coordinators]] if you think this page should include your question. | On this page, you will find a list of commonly asked questions regarding [[Abyssal Deadspace]]. If your question is not on this page, please head over to the Abyssal Community Discord channel and ask there. Ping a [[Community Coordinators]] if you think this page should include your question. | ||
== Which ships should I fly? What should be my next ship? == | == Which ships should I fly? What should be my next ship? == | ||
There is no 'perfect' progression which Abyssal Community recommends. Please look at our [[Abyssal Community Fits]] for base T0 | There is no 'perfect' progression which Abyssal Community recommends. Please look at our [[Abyssal Community Fits]] for base T0 - they were tested with recommended skills, and provide good start in Abyss. You have to decide what would be your next step, but roughly: | ||
* You start in T0 in a Frigate | |||
* T1 in Assault Frigate, or if you're Alpha/Low SP - Hookbill or Worm | |||
* If Solo - T3 and higher in Cruisers, or | |||
* If Multi - T3 and Higher in 3x Assault Frigate | |||
=== Maybe I can fly Destroyer or Cruiser in T0? === | |||
Yes, you can. But our Frigates run T0s perfectly fine, and since loot is multiplied x3 for Frigates - you will earn less if you go to T0s in bigger ships. Simple you won't be that much faster to offset lower loot per run. | |||
=== What about Cruiser in T1? === | |||
While it's possible to fit T1 Cruiser for T1 - we again have profitability issue. T1 Cruiser will earn more or less the same as T0 Frigate, but you risk much less (Frigates are way cheaper), and Frigate runs in T0 will teach you more important mechanics than T1s in Cruiser. | |||
=== What ship can run T2? === | |||
T2 is not very popular - because there are no reliable Frigate fits that will earn more than in T1, and good Cruiser fits will be good for T3 anyway, which starts to offer decent profits. We do not recommend running T2s at all. | |||
== I am dying a lot, why? == | == I am dying a lot, why? == | ||
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*Prioritize enemies that deal unfavorable damage to you. Depending on filament weather you will have a natural resist hole (except in dark filaments). Enemies dealing this type of damage should be dealt with first. | *Prioritize enemies that deal unfavorable damage to you. Depending on filament weather you will have a natural resist hole (except in dark filaments). Enemies dealing this type of damage should be dealt with first. | ||
Consider learning which enemies can spawn in each type of room and which enemies should be prioritized. Do this before starting your run and create a cheat sheet based on your filament tier, filament weather, and ship fit. | Consider learning which enemies can spawn in each type of room and which enemies should be prioritized. Do this before starting your run and create a cheat sheet based on your filament tier, filament weather, and ship fit. | ||
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== What should be my Tank/DPS for Tier X? == | == What should be my Tank/DPS for Tier X? == | ||
Table below is not exhaustive but serves as a general guide. If you rely to some degree on speed to mitigate incoming damage then EHP requirements will be lower or much lower. | Table below is not exhaustive but serves as a general guide. If you rely to some degree on speed to mitigate incoming damage then EHP requirements will be lower or much lower. | ||
{| class="wikitable" style="width:20em; text-align: center" | {| class="wikitable" style="width:20em; text-align: center" | ||
! Tier !! DPS !! EHP/s | ! Tier !! DPS<ref>For Dark weather you don't have benefit of resist hole created by weather penalty, which means you need more DPS</ref> !! EHP/s<ref>If you run with Frigates, you can reduce number given by about 30%. For Dark weather you can reduce the number given by about 30%. </ref> | ||
|+ DPS / EHP/s checks per filament tier | |+ DPS / EHP/s checks per filament tier | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[File:abyssalFilamentL0.png|32px]] T0 || 100 || | | [[File:abyssalFilamentL0.png|32px]] T0 || 100 || 50<ref>Devoted Hunter, max DPS spawn in T0s has 49 DPS. Keep in mind that it deals TH and EM, so your EHP/s against Sansha matters.</ref> | ||
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| [[File:abyssalFilamentL1.png|32px]] T1 || 150 || 150 | | [[File:abyssalFilamentL1.png|32px]] T1 || 150 || 150 | ||
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| [[File:abyssalFilamentL6.png|32px]] T6 || 850 || 950 | | [[File:abyssalFilamentL6.png|32px]] T6 || 850 || 950 | ||
|} | |} | ||
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== When should I move up a tier? == | == When should I move up a tier? == | ||
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=== General recommendations === | === General recommendations === | ||
*If you are doing less than one hour's worth of runs then loot everything you safely can within the time limit. | *If you are doing less than one hour's worth of runs then loot everything you safely can within the time limit. | ||
*If you are doing runs back to back for an extended period then it is more efficient to only loot the Bioadaptive | *If you are doing runs back to back for an extended period then it is more efficient to only loot the Bioadaptive cache since it allows for more runs which grants more loot than the potential loot from the side-cans. | ||
*If your runs average a run time of close to 15 minutes or higher, do not loot the first room fully. This is to prevent you from running out of time in later rooms due to greed. | *If your runs average a run time of close to 15 minutes or higher, do not loot the first room fully. This is to prevent you from running out of time in later rooms due to greed. | ||
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=== Median loot per run and tier === | === Median loot per run and tier === | ||
Below you can find the median loot values per tier and hull size.<ref>https://abysstracker.com/</ref> Please note that these values are based on user data and as such might not be accurate. | Below you can find the median loot values per tier and hull size for a single run.<ref>https://abysstracker.com/</ref> Please note that these values are based on self-reported user data and as such might not be accurate. | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Filament tier !! Frigate !! Destroyer !! Cruiser | ! Filament tier !! Frigate !! Destroyer !! Cruiser | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Tier 0 || 2.25M || 1.48M || 0.76M | | Tier 0 (Tranquil) [https://abysstracker.com/info-page/tranquil]|| 2.25M || 1.48M || 0.76M | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Tier 1 || 5. | | Tier 1 (Calm) [https://abysstracker.com/info-page/calm]|| 5.29M || 3.48M || 2.56M | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Tier 2 || 13. | | Tier 2 (Agitated) [https://abysstracker.com/info-page/agitated]|| 13.48M || 8.70M || 5.47M | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Tier 3 || 34. | | Tier 3 (Fierce) [https://abysstracker.com/info-page/fierce]|| 34.37M || 22.26M || 12.30M | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Tier 4 || | | Tier 4 (Raging) [https://abysstracker.com/info-page/raging]|| 86.00M || 59.35M || 31.71M | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Tier 5 || | | Tier 5 (Chaotic) [https://abysstracker.com/info-page/chaotic]|| 173.55M || 111.83M || 66.01M | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Tier 6 || | | Tier 6 (Cataclysmic) [https://abysstracker.com/info-page/cataclysmic]|| 339.91M || 223.03M || 124.96M | ||
|} | |} | ||
Consider the above when thinking about moving up a tier. If you can do three T0 frigate runs in the same time as you can do one T1 frigate run then it is more lucrative to continue running T0 until you can do T1 faster. | Consider the above when thinking about moving up a tier. If you can do three T0 frigate runs in the same time as you can do one T1 frigate run then it is more lucrative to continue running T0 until you can do T1 faster. | ||
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==What should I do with all the blueprints from abyssals?== | ==What should I do with all the blueprints from abyssals?== | ||
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* BPCs that might have some value (as of 2024) are the faction offensive guns, the low slot damage mod (not much though), select hulls (depends on market). Ammo is usually positive to make, but not to sell as blueprints (values may change fast, so check in game before you commit) | * BPCs that might have some value (as of 2024) are the faction offensive guns, the low slot damage mod (not much though), select hulls (depends on market). Ammo is usually positive to make, but not to sell as blueprints (values may change fast, so check in game before you commit) | ||
* You can dabble specifically in Abyss BPC's in industry, you will only need specific skills so you don't need to go all out on SP expenditure. You earn the main industry materials needed (BPC's, Crystalline Isogen-10 and Zero-Point Condensate) so you need relatively miner (ha get it) items to have your valued items make money (use [[Third-party_tools#Industry_and_Integrated_Market_Tools|3rd party tools]] to ensure it's a positive thing to make, and you're not devaluing your inputs by making an output!) | * You can dabble specifically in Abyss BPC's in industry, you will only need specific skills so you don't need to go all out on SP expenditure. You earn the main industry materials needed (BPC's, Crystalline Isogen-10 and Zero-Point Condensate) so you need relatively miner (ha get it) items to have your valued items make money (use [[Third-party_tools#Industry_and_Integrated_Market_Tools|3rd party tools]] to ensure it's a positive thing to make, and you're not devaluing your inputs by making an output!) | ||
* Build a stockpile of BPC's in a special crate, and maybe sell it one day as a bundle - you can post it on #buy-or-sell channel on Discord | * Build a stockpile of BPC's in a special crate, and maybe sell it one day as a bundle - you can post it on #buy-or-sell channel on Discord if you're member of EVE University | ||
== How do I beat... == | |||
=== Devoted Hunter === | |||
Usual killer of T0 ships. You have to kill it before it kills you. | |||
* Try to stay at range if you use drone boat | |||
* Usually requires overheating of reps and weapons, to speed up the kill | |||
* Is very fast, you might not be able to kite it for long | |||
=== Skybreaker === | |||
DPS check for T0 ships. Doesn't deal much damage, but has very good tank. | |||
* Use appropriate ammo - either matching weather resist penalty, or Thermal/EM | |||
* Overheat weapons if needed | |||
* Try to stay close, to have better chance to hit | |||
* Bring a stack of Faction ammo specifically for Skybreaker | |||
=== Tessera === | |||
Hardest enemy in T1 if you aren't prepared and don't know how to kill it. Quite easy if you know the strats. | |||
* Has very short range - 2km Optimal + 6km Falloff | |||
* Has absurdly good tracking - 4000 (!) | |||
* Stay at range - preferably 14km or higher (a bit lower in Dark weather, due to turret range penalty) | |||
=== Devoted Knight / Cynabal === | |||
Similar ships, with Knight being a bit more dangerous. Can be a difficult due to EWAR, especially in T1s when it appears for the first time. | |||
* Will Web and Neut you - be prepared to manage your cap well | |||
* In frigates, you can use your cap to get into tight orbit - it will not be able to hit you if you orbit closely, even when you're webbed/neuted | |||
* Knight deals 150 DPS, EM/Thermal. That's recommended tank number for T1 Abyss, be prepared to overheat if you don't meet it. Cynabal deals less, about 70 DPS, with Elite at 110 DPS. | |||
=== Karen === | |||
Karybdis Tyrannos, or Drifter Foothold Battleship (that's the version in T1, it gets way higher DPS in higher tiers). Has poor tracking, but 60km Optimal range and deals 100 DPS of Omni damage. | |||
* DO NOT approach it directly. You need to [[Manual_piloting#Spiral_Maneuver|spiral in]] - close the distance while flying at an angle, to keep your transversal high enough so you won't get hit | |||
* When you're close - below 10km more or less - you can start orbiting it with close orbit - that way Karen won't be able to hit you at all | |||
* It is advised to start approaching Karen when immediately when you start the room, as it will try to get away from you - that usually end with Karen hugging the wall, and you have to be extra careful to avoid going out of bounds | |||
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