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Eve University occupies a unique position in EVE. In theory, as the largest hi-sec corporation in EVE, and containing a large proportion of new players, Eve University would represent one of the most attractive targets in EVE. The reality is different; in order to prevent constant [[Eve_Lexicon#W|wardecs]], the closure of the corp and the loss of new players, Eve University has wartime policies that allow us to continue to function and provide both PvP and PvE while mounting an effective defence that frustrates griefers and those looking for easy kills.
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==What is war in EVE?==
  
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==About War in Eve University==
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Player corporations are able to declare war on each other in EVE Online. The corporation declaring war pays a fee to CONCORD and in return this temporarily alters the CONCORD mechanics between the two corporations. What this means is that members of either of the two corporations can shoot each other as legal targets without intervention from CONCORD for the duration of the war. This applies regardless of the security status of the system, meaning that if a corporation is at war its members may be targeted in high sec space, as well as any other kind of space. The war lasts for seven days, following which either corporation can renew the war if they choose. We refer to members of a corporation we are at war with as “War targets”.
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A corporation declares war by paying CONCORD a fee to do so. Once at war, the corporations involved may shoot, kill and pod each other in high security space without CONCORD response. At the end of a one week period, the fee is paid again, or the war expires. There are no victory conditions or special gameplay mechanics.
 
  
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New players can and do make valuable contributions in PvP combat. New players typically fly frigates as a [[Tackling_101_Guide|"tackler"]], whose job is to pin down the enemy while the larger and slower ships move in for the kill. Our corporate hangars can provide the needed ships and modules for free, which you can then insure and lose.
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==How can you tell if EVE University is at war?==
  
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During war large Eve University fleets typically form 2 or 3 times a day. Small fleets form from time to time, but expect to spend some time doing nothing in station. War in hi-sec space can often descend into frustrating games of 'cat and mouse', with one side unwilling to engage when the other side has an advantage.
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To check whether EVE University is currently at war, search for EVE University in the in-game browser as in the image below:
  
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Group PvP in EVE is different from other MMOs - most of the time is spent in preparation, maneuvering, and gathering intelligence - the actual battle is short and often decided before it begins.
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[[Image:cspa1.png|frame|center]]
  
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====Wartime Cautionary====
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Then right click on EVE University and select “Show info”. This will bring up a profile of information on EVE University. Select the “War history” tab and look at the top of the list for any active or pending wars.
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With the launch of the Inferno expansion the Uni (Ivy League) has found itself almost constantly at war with one corporation/alliance or another. With how our recruiting system currently works you can find yourself accepted into the Uni "without warning" and suddenly a valid war target to our enemies.  It's important that once you fully apply to the Uni you are fully prepared to be at war. Make sure you check your mail and notifications.  If you have toggled the "blink off" for either of these we suggest you toggle them back on.  Whenever you log into the game after fully applying always check your information to see if you've been accepted.  The onus is on you to be prepared to be at war.
 
  
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*Take the time to set up your Overview as per our [[Overview Guide]].
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Since the current war mechanics were introduced, EVE University has been almost constantly at war, so even if we do not have any current or pending wars when you check, please be aware that this may not last very long.
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*Read through and become familiar with our [[Wartime Standard Operating Procedures]].
 
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*Do not immediately start hauling all your possessions to our HQ located at Pator Tech School in Aldrat should you find yourself accepted into the Uni.  Our enemies love to camp common routes leading into Aldrat especially the the Aldrat - Hek pipeline and most major and some minor [[Trade Hubs]].  You may move stuff in advance if you wish.  Moving all your stuff to Aldrat isn't necessary.  You will find in EVE it can be very useful to have stuff in various places through out New Eden.  Consider using an OOC (Out-of-Corp) Hauler Alt and you can follow our guide [[Creating an Alt Hauler]].
 
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*Register for our forums ''via ingame browser'' on http://forum.eveuniversity.org/register/
 
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*[[Mumble|Install and Setup Mumble]] and join in and get talking to us.
 
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*If you find yourself in the Uni be sure you dock-up and get yourself perpared for war prior to continuing on.  Again, our enemies are adept at finding and killing solo Unista's who are unprepared or not paying attention.
 
  
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====What you can learn about or do during war in Eve University====
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==Why is EVE University at war?==
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*Fitting and flying basic PvP roles
 
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*Operation in fleets
 
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*PvP organisation in large corps/alliances
 
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*Command a fleet
 
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*Blow up an occassional wartarget
 
  
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====What you will probably NOT learn or do during war in Eve University====
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EVE University does not declare war on other corporations. However, as a large group with lots of inexperienced players, EVE University is an attractive target. Some corporations declare war on EVE University in order to get lots of kills on their killboard.
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*Solo PvP
 
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*Small gang PvP
 
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*Blow up lots of wartargets
 
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*Be fighting constantly
 
  
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== Applicants and corp members have a choice  ==
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Sometimes we also have mutual wars for training our members. War and PVP combat is an important part of EVE Online which we want our members to be prepared for and therefore it is a good training tool.
  
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Those who wish to fight in the war remain in or join the E-UNI corporation itself. Whilst at war, full E-Uni members have restrictions placed on the types and fits of ships they can fly along with challenges in doing mining, missioning, and exploration activities.  Full E-Uni members should not haul during times of war. Many Uni members will use an OOC (Out-of-Corp) hauler alt. 
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==How will war affect your time in EVE University?==
  
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Those who wish to continue on as normal during wartime, engaging in unrestricted activities, may leave the UNI for the duration of the war. Although not technically in the UNI, these players may continue to participate in University classes, work with other members, and are generally considered to be Eve University members, with some limitations.  
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EVE University will always be an attractive target for corporations who wish to fight new players. However, being in a constant state of war can make it more difficult for us to teach our members the basics of EVE Online. For this reason, we have rules in place to discourage corporations from declaring war on us.
  
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Both groups gather in a common chat channel, which is the equivalent of a typical Corp chat window. Our internal Corp chat is used for military and wartime related messages, and for requesting resources. The PO will provide you with the details for this common channel when you complete the interview.  
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The main basis of these rules is the [[Wartime Standard Operating Procedures]]. If you are an inexperienced player, these should not overly restrict the ships you are able to fly or the activities you are able to do. If you have slightly more experience, you may find these rules more restrictive until you have the appropriate title within EVE University.
  
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Please note that the decision you make is <u>not final</u>, and you can always later decide to join for the war - or to later leave if the war is preventing you enjoying the game. However note that returning to the corporation requires that you re-apply, which takes up our PO's time!&nbsp; For a lot more information on leaving and joining for wars later, please read [[So, You Want to Leave for the War?|this page]].
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Our classes, events and fleets still carry on while EVE University is at war. Unfortunately we are sometimes unable to carry out some of the more practical exercises if there are war targets nearby.
  
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==Option 1: Join The Forums, Join the Chat Channel, Join for War==
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Hauling is a very bad idea on your EVE University character while we are at war, certainly in or around trade hubs. We would strongly recommend that you consider [[Creating_an_Alt_Hauler|Creating a Hauler Alt]] outside of the corporation to move your possessions around for you while you are in EVE University. Trade hubs are a popular target area for war targets, as members visiting trade hubs are not normally expecting or fit for combat. Therefore we recommend you avoid trade hubs on your EVE University character while we are war.
  
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* Register for our forums ''via ingame browser'' on http://forum.eveuniversity.org/register/
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If you are interested in learning PVP combat war should give you plenty of opportunity to improve and test your skills. You can lend a hand to the war effort immediately in a T1 ship in a role such as tackling or EWAR. Our campuses are always welcoming for inexperienced players who wish to learn PVP combat: [[LSC|Low sec campus]], [[NSC|Null sec campus]], [[WHC|Wormhole campus]].
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* Make sure you have read the text above, our [[Wartime Standard Operating Procedures|Wartime SOP]], and that you understand that war can restrict what you can safely do a lot of the time.
 
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* Understand that while the Uni is at war you will have to exercise some basic precautions and that any losses or other actions that violate the [[Wartime Standard Operating Procedures|Wartime SOP]] may result in your being kicked from the Uni.  Hauling is strongly discouraged during wartime.
 
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* Follow our [[Applying to EVE University|normal application instructions]].  When you are accepted you will receive an evemail regarding Wartime Regulations.  If you are interviewed the PO that interviews you will discuss your options with you and answer any questions. 
 
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* It's a good idea to bring more than 1 combat ship if possible - frigates are ideal for starting pilots. We can provide fittings and advice in the event you cannot provide your own.
 
  
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Your PO will authorize your access to the relevant sections of the forums via the Welcome evemail they send, or in an interview, and provide you with the initial details to access the Chat channel. Once you have joined the channel, they will introduce you if you were interviewed, otherwise go ahead and introduce yourself.
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If your interests are in PVE you may find war restricts some of your activities such as mining, missioning, planetary interaction etc. For this reason we suggest that before you apply to EVE University you set up a base camp somewhere far away from our home system of Aldrat, and ideally away from any trade hubs (Jita, Amarr, Dodixie and Rens). This should allow you to carry our your PVE activities in relative peace away from most of the war target activity. Always pay attention and do not mine while you are AFK or you may risk losing your ship. We do have PVE focused campuses, such as the [[AMC|Amarr Mining Campus]] and [[Solitude]] where you can join other members of EVE University.
  
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==Option 2: Join and Drop for War ==
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As always in EVE Online, it is important to only fly what you can afford to lose.
  
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Access to resources such as skillbooks and hangars are not available in this situation, however our chats, classes and forums are a large component of Eve University, and as such they are full of useful information for all pilots, whether a currently in the Uni or sitting out a war.  Once the war ends, you have 2 weeks to rejoin the special "fast track" queue for readmission.  This option may be more suitable for those who are not focused on PvP.  With the introduction of the Inferno expansion the Uni has been constantly under a number of different wars.  Realistically you should expect the Uni to continue to be at war for the time being.  Once you feel ready you are welcome to re-join the queue as a wartime re-entry to again be "fast tracked" back in.
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==Join now or wait until the war finishes?==
  
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* Register for our forums ''via ingame browser'' on http://forum.eveuniversity.org/register/
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Since EVE University is almost always at war, we would not recommend deferring entrance until the war is over. We are likely to be at war indefinitely. Even during wartime we welcome inexperienced players but we ask you to be aware of the risks and follow the rules.
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* Follow our [[Applying to EVE University|normal application instructions]], and state ''that you would like to become a member but sit out the war''.
 
  
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Your PO will send you a Welcome letter that will have information on this and how to update your access to our forums, and how to access our various chat channels, or if you're interviewed they will authorize your access to the relevant sections of the forums, and provide you with the initial details to access the Chat channel. Once you have joined the channel, they will introduce you.
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Please only apply to EVE University when you are ready to actually join the corporation. If you would like to gain some more experience of EVE Online before you join to EVE University, please hold off applying for now. War is an important part of EVE Online and most player corporations find themselves at war from time to time. If you wish to avoid war completely, you may be better off in an NPC corporation for now.
  
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[[Category:Guides]]
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Remember that most of our classes are now open to the public, so you can still learn from us even if you are not a member. Non-members can also access some sections of our forum and mumble, so you can still be involved in our community. Our wiki is open to the public, and Seamus Donahue has a useful series of videos on his YouTube channel.
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What preparations should you make before joining EVE University while we are at war?
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1) Please ensure you follow our [[Applying_to_EVE_University|application process]] carefully. This will ensure that you already have your overview set up to EVE University standards, which will help you to identify war targets in the system, and that you have mumble set up.
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2) Ensure that you are familiar with the [[EVE University Rules]] and [[Wartime Standard Operating Procedures]] before you join.
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3) If you would like to relocate any of your possessions, such as to set up a PVE base away from Aldrat, please do this before you apply to EVE University. If you would like to relocate anything after you join EVE University, we would very strongly recommend you set up an [[Creating_an_Alt_Hauler|Alt Hauler]]. You can do this either before or after joining.
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4) If you would like to install jump clones we would recommend you do so before applying to EVE University. EVE University does have jump clone facilities, but it may be more difficult to travel to them and relocate your jump clones while we are at war.
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5) If you wish to join in the war effort, it would be useful to set up some combat ships in Aldrat before applying. EVE University can provide hulls and modules once you are a member, but it can be useful to have some ships set up and ready to fight, and it may be more difficult to obtain items from trade hubs while we are at war. You can obtain recommended fits on our wiki. Useful roles for inexperienced players are [[tackling]] and [[EWAR]]. [[Guide_to_Logistics|Logistics]] is also very welcome during wartime.

Revision as of 19:21, 21 October 2013

What is war in EVE?

Player corporations are able to declare war on each other in EVE Online. The corporation declaring war pays a fee to CONCORD and in return this temporarily alters the CONCORD mechanics between the two corporations. What this means is that members of either of the two corporations can shoot each other as legal targets without intervention from CONCORD for the duration of the war. This applies regardless of the security status of the system, meaning that if a corporation is at war its members may be targeted in high sec space, as well as any other kind of space. The war lasts for seven days, following which either corporation can renew the war if they choose. We refer to members of a corporation we are at war with as “War targets”.

How can you tell if EVE University is at war?

To check whether EVE University is currently at war, search for EVE University in the in-game browser as in the image below:

File:Cspa1.png

Then right click on EVE University and select “Show info”. This will bring up a profile of information on EVE University. Select the “War history” tab and look at the top of the list for any active or pending wars.

Since the current war mechanics were introduced, EVE University has been almost constantly at war, so even if we do not have any current or pending wars when you check, please be aware that this may not last very long.

Why is EVE University at war?

EVE University does not declare war on other corporations. However, as a large group with lots of inexperienced players, EVE University is an attractive target. Some corporations declare war on EVE University in order to get lots of kills on their killboard.

Sometimes we also have mutual wars for training our members. War and PVP combat is an important part of EVE Online which we want our members to be prepared for and therefore it is a good training tool.

How will war affect your time in EVE University?

EVE University will always be an attractive target for corporations who wish to fight new players. However, being in a constant state of war can make it more difficult for us to teach our members the basics of EVE Online. For this reason, we have rules in place to discourage corporations from declaring war on us.

The main basis of these rules is the Wartime Standard Operating Procedures. If you are an inexperienced player, these should not overly restrict the ships you are able to fly or the activities you are able to do. If you have slightly more experience, you may find these rules more restrictive until you have the appropriate title within EVE University.

Our classes, events and fleets still carry on while EVE University is at war. Unfortunately we are sometimes unable to carry out some of the more practical exercises if there are war targets nearby.

Hauling is a very bad idea on your EVE University character while we are at war, certainly in or around trade hubs. We would strongly recommend that you consider Creating a Hauler Alt outside of the corporation to move your possessions around for you while you are in EVE University. Trade hubs are a popular target area for war targets, as members visiting trade hubs are not normally expecting or fit for combat. Therefore we recommend you avoid trade hubs on your EVE University character while we are war.

If you are interested in learning PVP combat war should give you plenty of opportunity to improve and test your skills. You can lend a hand to the war effort immediately in a T1 ship in a role such as tackling or EWAR. Our campuses are always welcoming for inexperienced players who wish to learn PVP combat: Low sec campus, Null sec campus, Wormhole campus.

If your interests are in PVE you may find war restricts some of your activities such as mining, missioning, planetary interaction etc. For this reason we suggest that before you apply to EVE University you set up a base camp somewhere far away from our home system of Aldrat, and ideally away from any trade hubs (Jita, Amarr, Dodixie and Rens). This should allow you to carry our your PVE activities in relative peace away from most of the war target activity. Always pay attention and do not mine while you are AFK or you may risk losing your ship. We do have PVE focused campuses, such as the Amarr Mining Campus and Solitude where you can join other members of EVE University.

As always in EVE Online, it is important to only fly what you can afford to lose.

Join now or wait until the war finishes?

Since EVE University is almost always at war, we would not recommend deferring entrance until the war is over. We are likely to be at war indefinitely. Even during wartime we welcome inexperienced players but we ask you to be aware of the risks and follow the rules.

Please only apply to EVE University when you are ready to actually join the corporation. If you would like to gain some more experience of EVE Online before you join to EVE University, please hold off applying for now. War is an important part of EVE Online and most player corporations find themselves at war from time to time. If you wish to avoid war completely, you may be better off in an NPC corporation for now.

Remember that most of our classes are now open to the public, so you can still learn from us even if you are not a member. Non-members can also access some sections of our forum and mumble, so you can still be involved in our community. Our wiki is open to the public, and Seamus Donahue has a useful series of videos on his YouTube channel.

What preparations should you make before joining EVE University while we are at war?

1) Please ensure you follow our application process carefully. This will ensure that you already have your overview set up to EVE University standards, which will help you to identify war targets in the system, and that you have mumble set up.

2) Ensure that you are familiar with the EVE University Rules and Wartime Standard Operating Procedures before you join.

3) If you would like to relocate any of your possessions, such as to set up a PVE base away from Aldrat, please do this before you apply to EVE University. If you would like to relocate anything after you join EVE University, we would very strongly recommend you set up an Alt Hauler. You can do this either before or after joining.

4) If you would like to install jump clones we would recommend you do so before applying to EVE University. EVE University does have jump clone facilities, but it may be more difficult to travel to them and relocate your jump clones while we are at war.

5) If you wish to join in the war effort, it would be useful to set up some combat ships in Aldrat before applying. EVE University can provide hulls and modules once you are a member, but it can be useful to have some ships set up and ready to fight, and it may be more difficult to obtain items from trade hubs while we are at war. You can obtain recommended fits on our wiki. Useful roles for inexperienced players are tackling and EWAR. Logistics is also very welcome during wartime.

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