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Industry is an expansive topic within Eve and to newer players it can be overwhelming, as well as the possibility of being easily exploited by dubious players.
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Industry is an expansive topic within Eve and to newer players it can be overwhelming. This page provides an overview of some of the Industry-related pages in this wiki.
 
 
Seeing as entire books can be written on this subject, topics have been split into small chunks,  so it can be easily absorbed, and to prevent an information overload.
 
 
 
Below is a catalog of topics, that start from the easiest aspects of industry, and culminate in the more difficult, and cost heavy areas.  
 
 
 
  
 
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== Mining ==
 
== Mining ==
Mining is the profession of extracting ore from asteroids; these ores can then be refined into minerals which in turn are used in the production of all player created items in EVE, such as ships and modules. It is one of the few professions that is immediately available to beginning players and most EVE industrialists started their careers by mining. Mining is perhaps the most economically safe professions in EVE; losing mining ships or being podded is uncommon and minerals are always in demand. In its simplest form, mining can be accomplished by finding an asteroid site in a system and mining its asteroids with mining lasers.
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[[Mining]] is the profession of extracting ore from asteroids; these ores can then be refined into minerals that are the basis of all production in EVE. It is one of the few professions that is immediately available to beginning players and most EVE industrialists started their careers by mining. Mining is perhaps the most economically safe professions in EVE; losing mining ships or being podded is uncommon and minerals are always in demand. Your greatest threat is often "[[Can Flipping|Can Flippers]]" - make sure you understand their motives and how to deal with them.
 
 
 
 
=== Before you start ===
 
 
 
The foundations of mining, and where to start is here: [[Mining | Mining]]
 
 
 
Can Flipping is an issue that we have so look [[Can_Flipping | here]]
 
 
 
The following is a good plan for creating a new alt with the skills to fly an [[Exhumers|Exhumer]] within the introductory 51 days of an activated 'buddy account'. It can also be used as a guide for what skills a player would need to develop to be able to start flying higher-level mining ships: [[Creating_an_Alt_Miner|Creating an Alt Miner]]
 
 
 
=== The Beginning ===
 
So you want try you hand at mining, and want to get out of your 'noob' ship, so why not try here: [[Mining Ships]]
 
 
 
So you have tried mining and have got a taste for it, lets try out a: [[Mining_Barges|Mining Barge]]
 
 
 
Want a simple technique to increase your mining yield, that anyone can do? Then why not try:[[Cooperative_Mining_Guide | Mining with others]]
 
 
 
=== Advanced ===
 
 
 
There's just no stopping you is there! You want more more more! Well how about: [[ An Exhumer]]
 
 
 
Its time for the final step, you want to become a mining fleet master and for that you might just want: [[Orca_Guide | An Orca]]
 
 
 
And what about something different, then try [[Ice_Mining | Ice Mining]]
 
 
 
And in wormhole space and 0.0, there's [[Gas_Cloud_Mining | Gas Mining]]
 
 
 
Heading into unprotected Low Sec space, then you will have to read [[Ivy_League_Policies#HiSec.2C_LoSec.2C_NPC_NullSec.2C_Claimable_NullSec_and_W-space| this]]
 
 
 
Wanting to play in the null sec sandbox, then without a doubt read [[Ivy_League_Policies#HiSec.2C_LoSec.2C_NPC_NullSec.2C_Claimable_NullSec_and_W-space|this]] to find which areas you are allowed to go as an E-Uni member and to increase your chances of survival
 
 
 
And finally if you want to know everything, down to the EXACT numbers then this guide written by Halada has been helping out miners for many years [http://www.eveonline.com/iNgameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=434899 Halada's Complete Miner's Guide]
 
 
 
== Refining ==
 
In the beginning, '''DO NOT REFINE - KEEP STACKING.'''
 
 
 
As a new player your skills and corporation standing will be so low that the wastage would be very high. You could earn more money by selling the ore raw if you needed the money straight away. If not get someone else who has perfect refine AND that you fully trust, to refine them for you. If not, keep stacking.
 
 
 
 
 
=== How to refine ===
 
 
 
[[Refining]]
 
  
=== Refining Stations ===
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Most miners start with basic mining [[Mining Ships|frigates and cruisers]], before progressing on to [[Mining Barges]] and [[Exhumers]]. After that, a lot of players move on to flying an [[Orca_Guide | Orca]], perfecting their [[refining]] skills, or perfecting their mining skills. Many miners move on to [[Ice Mining|ice]] or [[Gas Cloud Mining|gas]] mining. If you're thinking of heading into low/nullsec space, then make sure you understand the [[Ivy_League_Policies#HiSec.2C_LoSec.2C_NPC_NullSec.2C_Claimable_NullSec_and_W-space|University's policies]] and know which areas you are allowed to go as a neutral E-Uni member and to increase your chances of survival.
  
[[Mining_in_the_Apetter_Constellation | Refining stations in the Apetter Constellation]]
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"[[Creating_an_Alt_Miner|Creating an Alt Miner]]" is a good plan for creating a new alt with the skills to fly an [[Exhumers|Exhumer]] within the introductory 51 days of an activated 'buddy account'. It can also be used as a guide for what skills a player would need to develop to be able to start flying higher-level mining ships, although you need to be able to afford some expensive skills and implants up front to get the best out of it.
  
=== Players Who offer Perfect Refine Services ===
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[http://www.eveonline.com/iNgameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=434899 Halada's Complete Miner's Guide] is a reference source for most mining information, with the mathematical foundations and most topics of mining covered in good detail.
  
[[Perfect Refine List]]
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=== Refining ===
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As a new miner, be wary of [[refining]] ore for yourself. As a new player, your skills and corporation standing will be so low that the refining wastage is very high. You should check if you could earn more money by selling the ore raw, and the best option is to get someone else - who has [[Perfect Refine List|perfect refine]] -  to refine them for you. If not, keep stacking. If you have access to a [[POS Refining|POS to refine with]] then some modules will give a higher base refine, allowing you to refine perfectly with lesser skills.
  
=== POS Refining ===
 
[[POS_Refining | POS Refining]]
 
  
 
== Manufacturing ==
 
== Manufacturing ==
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* Datacores (used for T2 and T3 research; obtained in a time-limited way from R&D agents/missions).
 
* Datacores (used for T2 and T3 research; obtained in a time-limited way from R&D agents/missions).
 
* Containers (seeded to stations).
 
* Containers (seeded to stations).
* Meta-1 through Meta-4 modules (loot from missions).
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* Named/Officer/Deadspace modules (loot from missions).
* Officer/deadspace modules (loot from missions).
 
  
 
Faction items (Caldari Navy Raven, etc.) are a mix of player and NPC production -- some items can be purchased through LP stores as blueprints.
 
Faction items (Caldari Navy Raven, etc.) are a mix of player and NPC production -- some items can be purchased through LP stores as blueprints.

Revision as of 15:59, 21 June 2010

This page is a work in progress. Please feel free to contribute.

Industry is an expansive topic within Eve and to newer players it can be overwhelming. This page provides an overview of some of the Industry-related pages in this wiki.

Mining

Mining is the profession of extracting ore from asteroids; these ores can then be refined into minerals that are the basis of all production in EVE. It is one of the few professions that is immediately available to beginning players and most EVE industrialists started their careers by mining. Mining is perhaps the most economically safe professions in EVE; losing mining ships or being podded is uncommon and minerals are always in demand. Your greatest threat is often "Can Flippers" - make sure you understand their motives and how to deal with them.

Most miners start with basic mining frigates and cruisers, before progressing on to Mining Barges and Exhumers. After that, a lot of players move on to flying an Orca, perfecting their refining skills, or perfecting their mining skills. Many miners move on to ice or gas mining. If you're thinking of heading into low/nullsec space, then make sure you understand the University's policies and know which areas you are allowed to go as a neutral E-Uni member and to increase your chances of survival.

"Creating an Alt Miner" is a good plan for creating a new alt with the skills to fly an Exhumer within the introductory 51 days of an activated 'buddy account'. It can also be used as a guide for what skills a player would need to develop to be able to start flying higher-level mining ships, although you need to be able to afford some expensive skills and implants up front to get the best out of it.

Halada's Complete Miner's Guide is a reference source for most mining information, with the mathematical foundations and most topics of mining covered in good detail.

Refining

As a new miner, be wary of refining ore for yourself. As a new player, your skills and corporation standing will be so low that the refining wastage is very high. You should check if you could earn more money by selling the ore raw, and the best option is to get someone else - who has perfect refine - to refine them for you. If not, keep stacking. If you have access to a POS to refine with then some modules will give a higher base refine, allowing you to refine perfectly with lesser skills.


Manufacturing

Manufacturing is, in short, to produce items from blueprints and materials. This includes several complex operations such as Research, Copying, Invention and Reverse Engineering. New Eden is a massive world with a huge population forming a capitalistic market. This means there is very limited state controlled production(NPC) of any kind. Most items are manufactured by players, with certain important exceptions:

  • Skillbooks (seeded daily to school stations or through LP stores)
  • T1 BPOs (similar to skillbooks)
  • Datacores (used for T2 and T3 research; obtained in a time-limited way from R&D agents/missions).
  • Containers (seeded to stations).
  • Named/Officer/Deadspace modules (loot from missions).

Faction items (Caldari Navy Raven, etc.) are a mix of player and NPC production -- some items can be purchased through LP stores as blueprints.

Note that the supply of the last 4 items on the list is generally constrained by two factors: (a) how many missions are run, and (b) how often the item is provided as mission loot. Skillbooks and blueprints appear to be sold in a manner that maintains price stability and high availability.

The wide availability of meta-1 through meta-4 modules is viewed by many as a major economic problem in EvE, since any of these are superior substitutes to T1 manufacture, which produces Meta-0 items. Indeed, many meta-4 modules are superior to the T2 variants.

By analogy, imagine you could manufacture an 8GB iPod, but your neighbor could dig in his yard and mine a 20GB iPod.

T1

See the article on T1 Manufacturing for more information.

T2

T2 manufacture is a more complex venture, requiring more skills, different materials, increased infrastructure, and good luck. Individual items are worth more, but costs are much higher as well.

T2 Invention

Moon Goo

T2 Components

T3

T3 manufacture is more complex yet, with a different set of inputs and months of skill training to do the whole process -- but again, the potential for profit is higher. It also rates its own article, here.



More on economics -- Eve's population and markets are huge and well-developed for a video game, but in real-world economic terms, the markets are small, fragmented, and highly inefficient (in the technical sense). They're also subject to the equivalent of massive disruption by the game developers, which you may equate to the state or to acts of God. Hauling as a career will let you exploit and correct some of those inefficiencies, and this is the basis of the station-trading profession -- so be aware of the ways in which EvE's markets fail, because that's where you'll make your money.

Research

Overview info about researching

Blueprint Attributes

Using the University POS for research

Reverse Engineering

Info regarding reverse engineering See Tech 3 Production's reverse engineering section.

Hauling

Info and links regarding hauling should go under here starting with basics and introduction and move to more advanced stuff Creating a Hauler Alt Overview info on hauling

Hauling is generally the act of moving things from A to B. Should be simple enough. New Eden is a busy world, and indeed a large one. Because of it's size and travelsickness, traveling far distances is something New Eden's population tries to avoid. Or they just might be lazy. Therefore there are many people willing to pay you a lot for moving their things from one place to another. When realizing the vast ammounts of money that can be made out of this, it gets interesting.


Before you start

Things to know before you start a career in hauling / character creation

Maybe a skill plan we have already figured out so that they can start training skills before following the guides

Skill suggestions at least.


Methodes

The different methodes in hauling


Ships

Suggested shipsetups

Trading

Info and links regarding trading should go under here starting with basics and introduction and move to more advanced stuff

Trading is all about selling high and buying low. Trading might be the quickest way to arise from the dust and enter the halls of the rich ones. However, there is a catch. It takes money to make money. Meaning you will need a couple of millions in your wallet before attending this.

Trading


Before you start

Things to know before you start a career in trading / character creation

Maybe a skill plan we have already figured out so that they can start training skills before following the guides

Skill suggestions at least.


Station Hub Trading

Info about this consept


Haul Trading (or whatever it is called)

Info about that consept

Planetary Interaction

The next Eve Online expansion Tyrannis as announced here will open up all planets in New Eden to industrialization.

At present content is slowly being made available to the test server SiSi. This section will be used as a guide to anyone wanting to use planets. Content is not guaranteed to be 100% accurate as the information is based on the SiSi test server which can be altered at any time.

Quick Start

This page takes no more than 5 minutes to go through and at the end you will have set up a basic production chain: 5 minute guide

Further Reading / Links & Stuff

Links to different guides. i.ex Haladas


Copyright Notice

Links / List of places and guides we have pulled information out of and rearranged. Who was their authors and so on.