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= Fitting principles =
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Incursion fleets rely on good resists and buffer supported by a logistics. There are simply too many enemies to be able to fit a strong enough local tank, not to mention that by sacrificing a small portion of your fleet to bring in logistics instead of more damage dealers, the rest of the damage dealers can fit more offensive modules and your fleet will perform better.
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= Stepping up for the first time =
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= Preparations =
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== Ensure everyone has a solid fit ==
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When checking for fits, first make sure they have a proper tank. You can read more about that on the [[Vanguard Incursion fits]] page for examples, or the [[Incursion_fitting_principles#Battleship_setups|fitting principles]] page for more information, but here are two very common setups:
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; '''Minimum tank:
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: [[Image:icon_hardener_adaptive_ii.png|18px|Adaptive Invulnerability Field II]]{{co|coral|Adaptive Invulerability Field II}} 
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: [[Image:icon_hardener_adaptive_ii.png|18px|Adaptive Invulnerability Field II]]{{co|coral|Adaptive Invulerability Field II}}
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: [[image:icon_shield amplifier deadspace.png|18px|Deadspace EM Ward Amplifier]]{{co|coral|EM Ward Amplifier II}}
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: [[image:module icon damage control tech2.png|18px|Damage Control II]]{{co|coral|Damage Control II}}
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: [[image:module icon shield rig tech1.png|18px|Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer]]{{co|coral|Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer}}
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; Deadspace tank:
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: [[Image:icon_hardener_adaptive_deadspace.png|18px|Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field]]{{co|coral|Pith B-Type Adaptive Invulerability Field}}
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: [[image:module icon damage control tech2.png|18px|Damage Control II]]{{co|coral|Damage Control II}}
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: [[image:module icon shield rig tech1.png|18px|Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer]]{{co|coral|Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer}}
  
Once you have a good enough tank, the rest of your spare slots should be used to augment your damage potential. While there's such a thing as under-tanked, being over-tanked is not only wasteful in incursions but even dangerous if done at the cost of offence.
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It's also important that we ensure that people have proper [[Incursion_fitting_principles#Utility_modules|utility midslots]], such as a [[image:icon_sensor_booster_ii.png|18px|Sensor Booster]] {{co|coral|Sensor Booster II}} and a [[image:icon_stasis_webifier_faction.png|18px|Webbing]]{{co|coral|Federation Navy Stasis Webifier}} in their mids.
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* [[Vanguard Incursion fits#Maelstrom|Maelstroms]] and [[Vanguard Incursion fits#Rokh|Rokhs]] fit a [[image:icon_target_painter_faction.png|18px|Target painting]]{{co|coral|Republic Fleet Target Painter}} or a second [[image:icon_stasis_webifier_faction.png|18px|Webbing]]{{co|coral|Federation Navy Stasis Webifier}}.
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* [[Vanguard Incursion fits#Nightmare|Nightmares]] and [[Vanguard Incursion fits#Machariel|Machariels]] fit a [[image:icon_target_painter_faction.png|18px|Target painting]]{{co|coral|Republic Fleet Target Painter}} and fill out the rest with [[image:icon_tracking_computer_ii.png|18px|Tracking computer]]{{co|coral|Tracking Computers}}.
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* [[Vanguard Incursion fits#Vindicator|Vindicators]] fit more [[image:icon_stasis_webifier_faction.png|18px|Webbing]]{{co|coral|Federation Navy Stasis Webifiers}} and perhaps a [[image:icon_tracking_computer_ii.png|18px|Tracking computer]]{{co|coral|Tracking Computer}}.
  
See [[Preparing for Incursions]] for more information about what skills are needed.
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== Make sure your picket is ready before undocking ==
== Omni damage ==
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= While running =
The Sansha incursion rats deal two types of damages, lasers (EM and thermal) and torpedoes (kinetic and explosive). As such, they hit across all four resist types and therefore all incursion fits have to have even resists. It is important to know that there is more to it than that.
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== Watchlist ==
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{{main|Incursions_checklist#Using_the_Watch_List|Using the Watch List}}
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Be sure to remind everyone to add everyone in the ongrid-squad to their '''Watch List''' before starting your first site, as well as whenever someone joins the fleet while running.
  
First of all, it's more of an average resist per type of damage, so you can often compensate one resist for the other. The Basilisk for example can have a lower EM resist thanks to their higher thermal resist and still stand up to the damage inflicted by lasers. It also means that most ships can have a slightly lower kinetic resist as long as their explosive resist is equally higher, averaging a solid resist-profile for the damage inflicted by torpedoes.
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== Priority targets for vanguards ==
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{{important note box|This is a '''fundamental safety aspect''' and starting out it's not recommended to deviate from this kill order, as you could easily find yourself leaving warp disrupt capable ships on grid for longer periods of time, increasing the risk of being caught should a war target show up. See [[Anatomy of Incursions#Standard tactics|Anatomy of Incursions]] for a more in-depth explanation of prioritizing targets.}} 
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This is a generic priority list for vanguard sites, focusing on removing both damage and warp disruption from grid as soon as possible. Remember that different fleet compositions can change who targets what, as well as various fleet command styles. This is however a solid priority to follow that accounts for our unique need of getting rid of warp disrupt capable ships in order to [[Anatomy_of_Incursions#Facilitating_a_controlled_warp-out|facilitate a controlled warp-out]] without a delay, should a war targets show up.
  
Second, smaller ships take less damage from torpedoes than larger ships, especially if they are also faster. As such, logistics and strategic cruisers can often get away with slightly lower resists for kinetic and explosive, whereas battleships (especially those with huge signatures) would be better off pushing their kinetic and explosive resists a little bit higher to compensate for taking more damage from torpedoes.
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; {{co|coral|Targets for the entire fleet}}
 
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: These targets are for the entire fleet, as they need to die as soon as possible. It can also be beneficial to ensure that both regular and small high priority targets are killed before moving on to respective low priority targets.
== Omni tank ==
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; {{co|coral|Regular targets}}
Just as they do damage across the board, the Sansha incursion rats have omni tanks as well. The only notable exception is the '''Lirsautton Parichaya''', it's a little weaker against thermal damage and stronger against explosive damage. So contrary to missions where Amarr and Gallente weapons are somewhat limited due to their set damage types, these weapons are not hampered by resists in incursions.
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: These targets are usually larger, cruisers or battleships and suitable for ships with good damage projection, lower tracking, like battleships with large guns. The [[Roles in Incursions#Dronebunny|dronebunny]] also shoot these targets if the fleet has other ships dealing with the '''small targets''' already.
 
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;{{co|coral|Small targets}}
== Applied DPS ==
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: Smaller targets, like frigates or extremely fast or small cruisers. Ideally the primary targets for '''strategic cruisers''', [[Vindicator]]s or the [[Roles in Incursions#Dronebunny|dronebunny]] as a last resort, but if need be the entire fleet will help kill these.
One of the most important aspects to realize is that whatever DPS(damage per second) your favourite third party fitting tool tells you that you have, or whatever the fitting window ingame tells you, is worth nothing if you cannot apply that damage. Hence the term ''"applied DPS"'' as opposed to ''"paper DPS"'' which is basically just your potential damage.
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Your velocity, your target's velocity, approach vectors, your gun's signature resolution, your target's ship signature, locking speed, locking range, your weapon's optimal and falloff range and tracking all play a vital part in how much of your damage you'll be able to apply on your enemy. See [[Turret Damage|turret damage]] or the [[Gunnery Guide|gunnery guide]] for a more comprehensive introduction to the factors determining how much damage you'll end up doing when you undock and leave your theoretical bubble.
 
 
 
Practically this means that utility modules often make or break fleets.
 
 
 
==== Engagement ranges ====
 
In vanguards there will be a lot of small ships that orbit close, with only a few larger ships and they all spawn well within 70 - 75 km. The major engagement ranges for these kind of sites are of the 15 - 25 km range and the odd 60 - 65 km range for the '''Mara Paleo'''. For assaults and headquarters there will be fewer small ships and more large ships that initially spawn much further out. The engagement range for these sites vary a bit more, with brawlers engaging anywhere from 0 - 15 km and the rest at 20 - 25 km, 35 - 45km and 60+ km.
 
 
 
==== Short and long range weaponry ====
 
Regardless of what type of site you'll be running, you'll need to ensure that you can handle both ships that orbit close and ships that orbit further out. In vanguards the emphasis is much higher on tracking and webs to deal with the myriad of small agile frigates, whereas for assaults and headquarters the emphasis is on projection.
 
 
 
In general you get the best performance by carefully balancing your short and long range capabilities, tailored to the type of sites you use. That way you can ensure that your entire fleet is more or less constantly applying good damage throughout the entire site, improving your overall fleet performance.
 
 
 
Since all the warp disruption capable ships orbit close, and usually frigate-sized, coupled with the fact that we cater to low-skilled pilots in cost-efficient ships during wartime, we focus on short range weapons and lots of webs in vanguards. That way we can always ensure that we can kill anything that warp disrupts or does high damage, if we need to [[Anatomy_of_Incursions#Facilitating_a_controlled_warp-out|facilitate a controlled warp-out]]. It also allows us to be a lot more inclusive, since we wouldn't have to worry about replacing specific ships when people drop, but can take anyone from the waitlist regardless which ship they fly and what skills they have (barring having enough logistics of course).
 
 
 
== Utility modules ==
 
First of all, when the term ''"utility slots"'' is used it means the slots you have left over once you've fitted your tank and your weapons. So if your ship has five midslots and four are needed for your tank, then the fifth slot is your one utility midslot. If you ship has eight highslots and seven turrets, you have one utility highslot.
 
 
 
Second, the term ''"utility modules"'' refer to modules you fit that doesn't directly give you a higher dps in your favourite third party fitting program or on your fitting screen ingame. Instead they act as force multipliers of sorts making up for weaknesses or capitalize on strengths for increased efficiency. There are also modules that has no impact on your offensive capabilities, but are invaluable when things go wrong.
 
 
 
Logistics will almost always carry the same utility midslots, so this section is aimed at damage dealers.
 
==== Midslot options ====
 
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| style="background-color:#111111;" valign="middle" | {{icon|sensor resolution|48}}
 
| style="padding:8px;" valign="top" | In Vanguards, a battleship needs a sensor booster to be able to lock enemy frigates in any kind of timely fashion. For assaults, it is usually a matter of targeting range. Command ships or strategic cruisers can usually get away without a sensor booster. Being able to lock fast is also necessary in order to quickly lock up a logistics to apply repair drones in an emergency.
 
 
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| style="background-color:#111111;" valign="middle" | [[image:icon_stasis_webifier_faction.png|48px|link=]]
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| style="padding:8px;" valign="top" | Stasis webifiers slow down the target, drastically increasing the chance to land good hits and thus increase applied dps. Webs are always better than tracking computers for shooting smaller targets, assuming the target will come into web range. The '''Federation Navy Stasis Webifier''' or '''True Sansha Stasis Webifier''' is needed for the extra range as regular webs fall short, literally.
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! style="background:#333333;" nowrap colspan="2" | Targets for the entire fleet
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| style="background:#333333; vertical-align:middle; text-align:center" rowspan="2" nowrap | '''Reason for the priority'''<br>(see [[Sansha's Manual]] for more information)
 
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| style="background-color:#111111;" valign="middle" | [[image:icon_tracking_computer_i.png|48px|link=]]
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! style="background:#222222;" nowrap | Regular targets
| style="padding:8px;" valign="top" | Tracking computers can be scripted for additional range or tracking, or both to a lesser degree. If you primarily engage targets outside web-range, tracking computers become more important, as they'll be able to improve your range and/or your tracking. Remember that this module use scripts, so be sure to bring '''Tracking Speed Scripts''' and '''Optimal Range Scripts'''.
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! style="background:#222222;" nowrap | Small targets
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| style="background-color:#111111;" valign="middle" | [[image:icon_target_painter_i.png|48px|link=]]
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| style="padding:8px;" valign="top" | Target painters increase the signature of the target, making it easier to lock and shoot. Target painters would not be your first choice, but assuming the other needs are met, you sometimes reach a point where additional webs won't be needed and then the target painter would actually be of more use than another web.
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| style="text-align:center; padding:5px;" colspan="2" nowrap | '''Niarja Myelen'''&nbsp;{{icon|jam|24|Jamming}}{{icon|neut|24|Energy neutralizing}}
| style="background-color:#111111;" valign="middle" | [[image:module_icon_microwarpdrive_tech1.png|48px|link=]]
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| style="padding:5px;" | Because the '''Niarja Myelen''' jams and neuts.
| style="padding:8px;" valign="top" | The microwarpdrive is used primarily in headquarter sites but can also be used in assaults. In those sites you need the extra speed to either fly to a specific position or to continuously move into new optimal positions for each wave. The Nightmare has the option to use an afterburner, due to its ship bonus to afterburner speeds.
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For vanguards, we make sure we have at least one sensor booster and one web. If we have room for more midslots we primarily go for a second web first before looking into other modules. Once you've made sure that you have a solid base, you can start looking at other modules to help fleet efficiency.
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| style="text-align:center; padding:5px;" colspan="2" nowrap | '''Sansha's Nation Commander'''&nbsp;{{icon|point|24|Warp disrupting}}<br>'''Tama Cerebellum'''&nbsp;{{icon|point|24|Warp disrupting}}
For assaults and up, once you've ensured that you have the locking range needed (potentially requires you to use a sensor booster) and fitted any required propulsion modules, it's mostly about having a decent amount of webs and painters in the fleet, then let people fill up empty slots with tracking computers to improve their applied damage through better tracking or range.
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| style="padding:5px;" | Because the '''Sansha's Nation Commander''' does a lot of damage and warp disrupts.
 
 
Each of these modules listed above have their pros and cons, see [[Anatomy of Incursions]] for more information on how you can change these modules around for different tactics based on your fleet composition. Have a few of each readily available, that way you'll be able to quickly refit if your fleet commander asks you to.
 
 
 
When in doubt, just follow the recommended fits on the [[Vanguard Incursion fits|Vanguard]] and [[Assault Incursion fits|Assault]] fitting pages.
 
 
 
==== Highslot options ====
 
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| style="background-color:#111111;" valign="middle" | [[image:icon_shield_transporter_i.png|48px|link=]]
 
| style="padding:8px;" valign="top" | Large S95a Remote Shield Booster or Large Remote Shield Booster II modules repairs the friendly target's shields. Having a few extra remote shield boosters for emergencies are invaluable. When the fleet doesn't have any Basilisks, it makes more sense to use remote shield boosters in your spare highs, as there won't be much need for utility cap.
 
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| style="background-color:#111111;" valign="middle" | [[image:icon_remote_capacitor_transmitter_i.png|48px|link=]]
 
| style="padding:8px;" valign="top" | Large 'Regard' Capacitor Transmitters or Large Capacitor Transmitter II consumes cap in order to send it to a friendly target. It creates more cap than it consumes, so giving each other cap like this creates both recipients more cap. It's a favoured module for when you have Basilisks in your fleet, so members can act as emergency cap buddies.
 
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| style="background-color:#111111;" valign="middle" | [[image:icon auto targeting system i.png|48px|link=]]
 
| style="padding:8px;" valign="top" | The Auto Targeting System I module can be a decent choice if you have a high slot to spare but not the fitting for any of the above mentioned modules (or your fleet has no need for them). Assuming you have the skills to lock more, it gives your ship the ability to lock an additional +2 targets at the cost of 1 powergrid and 1 CPU.
 
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When you're limited to just one utility highslot, pick the most important one. So a capacitor transmitter if you run with Basilisks and a remote shield booster if you run with Scimitars. Should you have the luxury of having more than one utility highslot, just bring both.
 
 
 
== Rigging choice ==
 
[[image:albert_einstein.jpg|thumb|200px|[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein ''"It’s all relative, you might say."'']]]
 
It's very easy to dismiss the importance of the rig selection when buying a new ship. While it's usually not something a new pilot needs to worry about when getting any of the minimum fits posted on the wiki, it's extremely important for people looking to get a new ship as it heavily influences your options in terms of flexibility and utility slots (which is everything in incursions).
 
 
 
You should also consider if the tank setup you're getting is going to be your final setup or just a stop-gap until you can afford a better one. Don't spend too much ISK on a temporary setup, either go for a cheap ''"good enough"'' setup while you're saving up for your ideal setup, or just wait until you can afford the whole setup you want in the end.
 
 
 
==== Electromagnetic or thermal rig ====
 
One of the most determining choices to make when tanking your ship is your choice of resist rig.
 
 
 
In general the electromagnetic rig will free up more midslots, but tends to require fancier deadspace modules to compensate for the overall lower resists. The thermal rig gives you a stronger and more flexible tank without having to rely on the high-end deadspace modules, at the cost of not being able to free up as many midslots.
 
 
 
==== Defence or offence ====
 
Another important choice to make when it comes to your rig selection is whether you want to go for more offence or more defence.
 
 
 
Going for offence means that you're limited to a single tech one resist rig in combination to your burst or collision rig, due to the high calibration cost of the tech two damage rigs. Choosing a more defensive setup will allow you to fit a tech two resist rig as well as making full use of the other two rigs. The offensive rigs are usually much cheaper than the defensive ones, but since the offensive setup usually has to up the quality of their deadspace modules to get a comparable resist profile, they're often forced to use higher tiered deadspace mods.
 
 
 
==== Flexibility vs efficiency vs cost ====
 
Given the different needs for tank and utility modules between the different type of sites, most incursion communities go for the most efficient rig setup for the kind of sites they are running. A community running vanguards exclusively often have different setups than those who run headquarters only. Communities that push for high-end fits with expensive deadspace modules usually have different rig selections too, since those stronger modules opens up for a few more options.
 
 
 
Going for the most efficient setup is of course always going to be the strongest way to do it, but sometimes you have to be practical. In our case, within our community, we factor in flexibility and cost a lot more. We want our members to be able to use the same ship for any type of site without having to resort to spending billions on faction and deadspace modules. That doesn't stop people who want to from doing it, but it does mean that some of our recommended fits will differ quite a lot from that of public communities.
 
 
 
== Determining a proper tank ==
 
There are a few easy ways to determine whether a tank is ok or not. Below are some key aspects that help when you're testing your ship in your favourite third-party fitting tool or if you've taken on the role of [[Roles_in_Incursions#Waitlist_manager|waitlist manager]] and need to quickly gauge whether the fit someone x up with is ok or not.
 
  
==== Resist holes ====
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The '''Tama''' warp disrupts and has fairly high damage output, but is easy to kill.
A lot of ships share a standard resist profile, so they share the same resist holes and have the same issues and weaknesses. Understanding what innate weaknesses a ship has is key to knowing how to best raise it to the desired high average resists mentioned above.
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| style="padding:5px;" nowrap | '''Mara Paleo'''&nbsp;{{icon|st|24|Remote Shield Booster}}<br>'''Auga Hypophysis'''&nbsp;{{icon|point|24|Warp disrupting}}{{icon|web|24|Webbing}}<br>'''Deltole Tegmentum'''&nbsp;{{icon|point|24|Warp disrupting}}{{icon|neut|24|Energy neutralizing}}{{icon|target painter|24|Target painting}}
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| style="padding:5px;" nowrap | '''Schmaeel Medulla'''&nbsp;{{icon|point|24|Warp disrupting}}{{icon|web|24|Webbing}}
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| style="padding:5px;" | The '''Mara''' is a high priority targets because it remote repairs the other ships.
  
Below is a list of different resist profiles for various ship classes as well as a few specific ships with deviating profiles. The last column lists the obvious weaknesses of the class/hull, which will help you determine how to best achieve the desired resist profile. Plugging a hole is usually a simple matter of adding a resist rig or a combination of a rig and a shield amplifier, then up the resists in general by using one or two invulnerability fields.
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The '''Auga''' warp disrupts, webs and is easier to kill than the '''Deltole''' that warp disrupts, target paints and neuts.
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%; vertical-align:middle; padding:0px; border-collapse:collapse;""
 
! style="background:#222222;" | Ship
 
! style="background:#222222;" | Base resist profile
 
! style="background:#222222;" | Comments
 
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| nowrap | Regular/faction battleships<small>&nbsp;<ref>Includes '''regular battleships''', '''navy''' and '''fleet issue battleships''' as well as '''pirate faction battleships'''.</ref></small>
 
| nowrap style="background:#111111;" | [[Image:icon_resist_em.png|24px|Electromagnetic resistance]]&nbsp;&nbsp;0%[[Image:icon_resist_therm.png|24px|Thermal resistance]]20%[[Image:icon_resist_kin.png|24px|Kinetic resistance]]40%[[Image:icon_resist_exp.png|24px|Explosive resistance]]50%
 
| An {{co|slateblue|EM}} hole and a weak {{co|crimson|thermal}} resist.
 
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| nowrap | Resist bonused battleships<small>&nbsp;<ref>Like the '''Rokh''' and other ships with 4% per level resist bonuses. The values are assuming maximum skills, so the full +20% better resists.</ref></small>
 
| nowrap style="background:#111111;" | [[Image:icon_resist_em.png|24px|Electromagnetic resistance]]20%[[Image:icon_resist_therm.png|24px|Thermal resistance]]36%[[Image:icon_resist_kin.png|24px|Kinetic resistance]]52%[[Image:icon_resist_exp.png|24px|Explosive resistance]]60%
 
| Weak {{co|slateblue|EM}} and {{co|crimson|thermal}} resists, but no resist holes.
 
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| Scimitar
 
| nowrap style="background:#111111;" | [[Image:icon_resist_em.png|24px|Electromagnetic resistance]]75%[[Image:icon_resist_therm.png|24px|Thermal resistance]]60%[[Image:icon_resist_kin.png|24px|Kinetic resistance]]40%[[Image:icon_resist_exp.png|24px|Explosive resistance]]50%
 
| No resist holes.
 
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| Basilisk
 
| nowrap style="background:#111111;" | [[Image:icon_resist_em.png|24px|Electromagnetic resistance]]&nbsp;&nbsp;0%[[Image:icon_resist_therm.png|24px|Thermal resistance]]80%[[Image:icon_resist_kin.png|24px|Kinetic resistance]]70%[[Image:icon_resist_exp.png|24px|Explosive resistance]]50%
 
| An {{co|slateblue|EM}} hole.
 
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<small><references/></small>
 
==== Effective shield hit points ====
 
You can judge your tank by many means, but for Incursions the best way to measure your tank is to look at '''effective shield hit points''' (ESHP), as opposed to '''damage per second repaired''' (DPS-tank) or the generic '''effective hit points''' (EHP). This is because a lot of ships have significant armour and hull hit points, so the effective hit points value can be quite misleading on a battleship with a damage control for example, as the EHP-value skyrockets compared to a ship without a damage control fitted, but very little of it applies to the actual ESHP.
 
  
It's also important to remember that a ship with high resists is much easier to repair compared to a ship with a high buffer of raw shield hit points. This is because each hit point is worth a lot more when factoring in resists. So even if a ship has less ESHP it might be easier to rep due to higher resists. You also need to factor in things like speed and signature, because a smaller ship that is orbiting will be a lot harder to hit than a large, stationary ship. So don't casually compare a ship's effective shield hit points against another without taking that into your consideration.
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The '''Schmaeel''' warp disrupts and webs.
==== Shield hit points and resists ====
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While the above mentioned effective shield hit points is a good measure, it is not always practical to use on the fly. For one it doesn't really tell you if the ship has any glaring resist holes, so for practical reasons we tend to speak in more general terms -- Shield hit points and resists.
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It's much easier to just ask the pilot ''"How many raw shield hit points do you have?"'' and ''"What are your resists if you undock and turn on all your modules?"''. It's very easy for people to check this ingame and it tells us enough to judge whether or not the fit is ok. Below are some rough guidelines what a proper tank might be.
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| style="padding:5px;" nowrap | '''Romi Thalamus'''
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| style="padding:5px;" nowrap | '''Renyn Meten'''&nbsp;{{icon|web|24|Webbing}}<br>'''Eystur Rhomben'''
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| style="padding:5px;" | '''Romis''' pose no real threat.<br>'''Renyns''' web and do more damage than '''Eysturs'''.
! Raw shield hit points
 
! Average resists
 
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| Scimitar
 
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| Basilisk
 
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= Battleship setups =
 
== Thermal rig ==
 
== Electromagnetic rig ==
 
== Resist bonused ships ==
 
= Strategic cruisers =
 
== Different resist profiles ==
 
One of the biggest differences fitting strategic cruisers compared to battleships is that they have a different resist profile. They are also much smaller in signature, so won't need the same raw buffer of shield hit points either.
 
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%; vertical-align:middle; padding:0px; border-collapse:collapse;""
 
! style="background:#222222;" | Ship
 
! style="background:#222222;" | Base resist profile
 
! style="background:#222222;" | Comments
 
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| nowrap | [[image:Legion_transparent.png|24px|Legion]] Legion
 
| nowrap style="background:#111111;" | [[Image:icon_resist_em.png|24px|Electromagnetic resistance]]&nbsp;&nbsp;0%[[Image:icon_resist_therm.png|24px|Thermal resistance]]20%[[Image:icon_resist_kin.png|24px|Kinetic resistance]]70%[[Image:icon_resist_exp.png|24px|Explosive resistance]]87,5%
 
| An {{co|slateblue|EM}} hole and weak {{co|crimson|thermal}} resists.
 
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| nowrap | [[image:Loki_transparent.png|24px|Loki]] Loki<small>&nbsp;<ref name="resist_subsystem">This is with the '''resist bonused''' defensive subsystem fitted.</ref></small>
 
| nowrap style="background:#111111;" | [[Image:icon_resist_em.png|24px|Electromagnetic resistance]]80%[[Image:icon_resist_therm.png|24px|Thermal resistance]]60%[[Image:icon_resist_kin.png|24px|Kinetic resistance]]52%[[Image:icon_resist_exp.png|24px|Explosive resistance]]60%
 
| No resist holes.
 
|-
 
| nowrap | [[image:proteus_transparent.png|24px|Proteus]] Proteus
 
| nowrap style="background:#111111;" | [[Image:icon_resist_em.png|24px|Electromagnetic resistance]]&nbsp;&nbsp;0%[[Image:icon_resist_therm.png|24px|Thermal resistance]]60%[[Image:icon_resist_kin.png|24px|Kinetic resistance]]85%[[Image:icon_resist_exp.png|24px|Explosive resistance]]50%
 
| An {{co|slateblue|EM}} hole.
 
|-
 
| nowrap | [[image:Tengu_transparent.png|24px|Tengu]] Tengu<small>&nbsp;<ref name="resist_subsystem"></ref></small>
 
| nowrap style="background:#111111;" | [[Image:icon_resist_em.png|24px|Electromagnetic resistance]]20%[[Image:icon_resist_therm.png|24px|Thermal resistance]]84%[[Image:icon_resist_kin.png|24px|Kinetic resistance]]76%[[Image:icon_resist_exp.png|24px|Explosive resistance]]60%
 
| Weak {{co|slateblue|EM}} resists.
 
|}
 
<small><references/></small>
 
== Different setups ==
 
Since the resist profiles vary quite a lot between the different strategic cruisers, the way they plug holes are vastly different.  Their low signature and high agility can allow for some compromises as well, but in general they plug their resist profiles just like any other ship. Here's a few examples of ways to attain the desired resist profiles.
 
{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%; text-align:left; padding:0px; border-collapse:collapse;"
 
|-
 
! style="background:#222222;" | Slots
 
! style="background:#222222;" | Legion<small>&nbsp;<ref>...</ref></small>
 
! style="background:#222222;" | Loki<small>&nbsp;<ref>...</ref></small>
 
|- valign="top"
 
| nowrap style="text-align:center; background:#111111;" | [[image:icon mid slot.png|24px]]
 
| nowrap style="vertical-align:middle;" | [[Image:icon_hardener_adaptive_deadspace.png|24px|Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field]] Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field<br>
 
[[Image:icon_hardener_adaptive_ii.png|24px|Adaptive Invulnerability Field II]] Adaptive Invulnerability Field II<br>
 
[[image:icon mid slot.png|24px]] Freed up mid slot
 
| nowrap style="vertical-align:middle;" | [[Image:icon_hardener_adaptive_deadspace.png|24px|Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field]] Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field<br>
 
[[image:Module icon em ward amplifier tech2.png|24px|EM Ward Amplifier II]] EM Ward Amplifier II<br>
 
[[image:icon mid slot.png|24px]] Freed up mid slot
 
|- valign="top"
 
| nowrap style="text-align:center; background:#111111;" | [[image:icon low slot.png|24px]]
 
| nowrap | [[image:icon low slot.png|24px]] Freed up low slot
 
| nowrap | [[image:module icon damage control tech2.png|24px]] Damage Control II
 
|- valign="top"
 
| nowrap style="text-align:center; background:#111111;" | [[image:icon rigs.png|24px|Rigs]]
 
| nowrap | [[image:module icon shield rig tech2.png|24px|Large Core Defense Field Extender II]] Core Defense Field Extender II<br>
 
[[image:module icon shield rig tech2.png|24px|Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II]] Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II<br>
 
[[image:icon rigs.png|24px]] Freed up rig slot
 
| nowrap | [[image:module icon shield rig tech2.png|24px|Large Core Defense Field Extender II]] Core Defense Field Extender II<br>
 
[[image:module icon shield rig tech2.png|24px|Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II]] Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II<br>
 
[[image:icon rigs.png|24px]] Freed up rig slot
 
|- valign="top"
 
| nowrap style="text-align:center; background:#111111;" | [[image:EVE SubIcon.png|24px|Subsystem]]
 
| nowrap | [[image:Module icon subsystem defensive.png|24px|Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating]] Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating
 
| nowrap | [[image:Module icon subsystem defensive.png|24px|Loki Defensive - X]] Legion Defensive - X
 
|- valign="top"
 
! style="text-align:center; background:#111111;" | Resists
 
! nowrap style="background:#222222;" | [[Image:icon_resist_em.png|24px|Electromagnetic resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_therm.png|24px|Thermal resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_kin.png|24px|Kinetic resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_exp.png|24px|Explosive resistance]]-%
 
! nowrap style="background:#222222;" | [[Image:icon_resist_em.png|24px|Electromagnetic resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_therm.png|24px|Thermal resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_kin.png|24px|Kinetic resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_exp.png|24px|Explosive resistance]]-%
 
|- valign="top"
 
! style="text-align:center; vertical-align:middle; background:#200000; padding:0px;" | [[image:icon overheating.png|24px]]
 
! nowrap style="background:#200000;" | [[Image:icon_resist_em.png|24px|Electromagnetic resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_therm.png|24px|Thermal resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_kin.png|24px|Kinetic resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_exp.png|24px|Explosive resistance]]-%
 
! nowrap style="background:#200000;" | [[Image:icon_resist_em.png|24px|Electromagnetic resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_therm.png|24px|Thermal resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_kin.png|24px|Kinetic resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_exp.png|24px|Explosive resistance]]-%
 
|- valign="top"
 
! style="text-align:center; vertical-align:middle; background:#0F0719; padding:0px;" | [[image:Icon energy neutralizer i.png|24px]]
 
! nowrap style="background:#0F0719;" | [[Image:icon_resist_em.png|24px|Electromagnetic resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_therm.png|24px|Thermal resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_kin.png|24px|Kinetic resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_exp.png|24px|Explosive resistance]]-%
 
! nowrap style="background:#0F0719;" | [[Image:icon_resist_em.png|24px|Electromagnetic resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_therm.png|24px|Thermal resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_kin.png|24px|Kinetic resistance]]-%[[Image:icon_resist_exp.png|24px|Explosive resistance]]-%
 
 
|}
 
|}
 +
<small>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<font color="red">&#9608;</font> &nbsp;'''Very high priority''' (immediate danger to the fleet)<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<font color="orangered">&#9608;</font> &nbsp;'''High priority''' (prevents the fleet from leaving)<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<font color="green">&#9608;</font> &nbsp;'''Low priority''' (only needed for site completion)</small>
 
<small><references/></small>
 
<small><references/></small>
 +
==== Practical examples ====
 +
Here are some examples of what you should start focusing on for the three vanguard sites, see the individual sites for more information:
 +
* When you start the [[Nation Mining Colony]], the immediate threat is the '''Mara''' {{icon|st|18|Remote Shield Booster}} and the '''Schmaeels''' {{icon|point|18|Warp disrupting}}{{icon|web|18|Webbing}} in the first room. For the remaining waves it's '''Niarjas''' {{icon|jam|18|Jamming}}{{icon|neut|18|Energy neutralizing}} first, then '''Tamas''' {{icon|point|18|Warp disrupting}} and '''Schmaeels''' {{icon|point|18|Warp disrupting}}{{icon|web|18|Webbing}} followed by '''Augas''' {{icon|point|18|Warp disrupting}}{{icon|web|18|Webbing}} (in the last wave).
 +
* In a [[Nation Commander Outpost]] it's usually '''Niarjas''' {{icon|jam|18|Jamming}}{{icon|neut|18|Energy neutralizing}} first, then '''Tamas''' {{icon|point|18|Warp disrupting}} and '''Schmaeels''' {{icon|point|18|Warp disrupting}}{{icon|web|18|Webbing}} followed by '''Augas''' {{icon|point|18|Warp disrupting}}{{icon|web|18|Webbing}}. The '''Sansha's Nation Commander''' {{icon|point|18|Warp disrupting}} that spawns in the third wave needs to go first, then the usual order.
 +
* Since everything warp disrupts in the [[Override Transfer Array]], you basically through '''Niarjas''' {{icon|jam|18|Jamming}}{{icon|neut|18|Energy neutralizing}} first, then '''Tamas''' {{icon|point|18|Warp disrupting}}, followed by the '''Augas''' {{icon|point|18|Warp disrupting}}{{icon|web|18|Webbing}} and finally the '''Deltole''' {{icon|point|18|Warp disrupting}}{{icon|neut|18|Energy neutralizing}}{{icon|target painter|18|Target painting}} for three waves then the remaining Eysturs warp off.
 +
This will take care of the immediate threat of jammers and warp disrupt capable ship, meaning you can relax knowing the hardest part of target calling is over, the rest is just finishing off the remainder of the site. See the '''individual site pages''' linked above for more information on priorities.

Latest revision as of 21:28, 18 November 2019

Incursionlogosmall.png The information presented here represents how we do things in the EVE University Incursion Community. It does not represent the best or only way to run Incursions. We make some compromises when it comes to efficiency for the sake of additional safety to create an environment where anyone can step up and learn a new role.

Stepping up for the first time

Preparations

Ensure everyone has a solid fit

When checking for fits, first make sure they have a proper tank. You can read more about that on the Vanguard Incursion fits page for examples, or the fitting principles page for more information, but here are two very common setups:

Minimum tank:
Adaptive Invulnerability Field IIAdaptive Invulerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field IIAdaptive Invulerability Field II
Deadspace EM Ward AmplifierEM Ward Amplifier II
Damage Control IIDamage Control II
Anti-Thermal Screen ReinforcerAnti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer
Deadspace tank
Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability FieldPith B-Type Adaptive Invulerability Field
Damage Control IIDamage Control II
Anti-EM Screen ReinforcerAnti-EM Screen Reinforcer

It's also important that we ensure that people have proper utility midslots, such as a Sensor Booster Sensor Booster II and a WebbingFederation Navy Stasis Webifier in their mids.

  • Maelstroms and Rokhs fit a Target paintingRepublic Fleet Target Painter or a second WebbingFederation Navy Stasis Webifier.
  • Nightmares and Machariels fit a Target paintingRepublic Fleet Target Painter and fill out the rest with Tracking computerTracking Computers.
  • Vindicators fit more WebbingFederation Navy Stasis Webifiers and perhaps a Tracking computerTracking Computer.

Make sure your picket is ready before undocking

While running

Watchlist

Main article: Using the Watch List

Be sure to remind everyone to add everyone in the ongrid-squad to their Watch List before starting your first site, as well as whenever someone joins the fleet while running.

Priority targets for vanguards

This is a fundamental safety aspect and starting out it's not recommended to deviate from this kill order, as you could easily find yourself leaving warp disrupt capable ships on grid for longer periods of time, increasing the risk of being caught should a war target show up. See Anatomy of Incursions for a more in-depth explanation of prioritizing targets.

This is a generic priority list for vanguard sites, focusing on removing both damage and warp disruption from grid as soon as possible. Remember that different fleet compositions can change who targets what, as well as various fleet command styles. This is however a solid priority to follow that accounts for our unique need of getting rid of warp disrupt capable ships in order to facilitate a controlled warp-out without a delay, should a war targets show up.

Targets for the entire fleet
These targets are for the entire fleet, as they need to die as soon as possible. It can also be beneficial to ensure that both regular and small high priority targets are killed before moving on to respective low priority targets.
Regular targets
These targets are usually larger, cruisers or battleships and suitable for ships with good damage projection, lower tracking, like battleships with large guns. The dronebunny also shoot these targets if the fleet has other ships dealing with the small targets already.
Small targets
Smaller targets, like frigates or extremely fast or small cruisers. Ideally the primary targets for strategic cruisers, Vindicators or the dronebunny as a last resort, but if need be the entire fleet will help kill these.
# Targets for the entire fleet Reason for the priority
(see Sansha's Manual for more information)
Regular targets Small targets
1 Niarja Myelen JammingEnergy neutralizing Because the Niarja Myelen jams and neuts.
2 Sansha's Nation Commander Warp disrupting
Tama Cerebellum Warp disrupting
Because the Sansha's Nation Commander does a lot of damage and warp disrupts.

The Tama warp disrupts and has fairly high damage output, but is easy to kill.

3 Mara Paleo Remote Shield Booster
Auga Hypophysis Warp disruptingWebbing
Deltole Tegmentum Warp disruptingEnergy neutralizingTarget painting
Schmaeel Medulla Warp disruptingWebbing The Mara is a high priority targets because it remote repairs the other ships.

The Auga warp disrupts, webs and is easier to kill than the Deltole that warp disrupts, target paints and neuts.

The Schmaeel warp disrupts and webs.

4 Romi Thalamus Renyn Meten Webbing
Eystur Rhomben
Romis pose no real threat.
Renyns web and do more damage than Eysturs.

      Very high priority (immediate danger to the fleet)
      High priority (prevents the fleet from leaving)
      Low priority (only needed for site completion)

Practical examples

Here are some examples of what you should start focusing on for the three vanguard sites, see the individual sites for more information:

  • When you start the Nation Mining Colony, the immediate threat is the Mara Remote Shield Booster and the Schmaeels Warp disruptingWebbing in the first room. For the remaining waves it's Niarjas JammingEnergy neutralizing first, then Tamas Warp disrupting and Schmaeels Warp disruptingWebbing followed by Augas Warp disruptingWebbing (in the last wave).
  • In a Nation Commander Outpost it's usually Niarjas JammingEnergy neutralizing first, then Tamas Warp disrupting and Schmaeels Warp disruptingWebbing followed by Augas Warp disruptingWebbing. The Sansha's Nation Commander Warp disrupting that spawns in the third wave needs to go first, then the usual order.
  • Since everything warp disrupts in the Override Transfer Array, you basically through Niarjas JammingEnergy neutralizing first, then Tamas Warp disrupting, followed by the Augas Warp disruptingWebbing and finally the Deltole Warp disruptingEnergy neutralizingTarget painting for three waves then the remaining Eysturs warp off.

This will take care of the immediate threat of jammers and warp disrupt capable ship, meaning you can relax knowing the hardest part of target calling is over, the rest is just finishing off the remainder of the site. See the individual site pages linked above for more information on priorities.