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I tried to check for content and form as I went along. I'm sure it needs more editing, though.
 
I tried to check for content and form as I went along. I'm sure it needs more editing, though.
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:I feel like the article is getting long enough that it could be split to "missions" and "how to missions" articles. Currently it switches between mission info and missionsing guide sections.[[User:Hirmuolio pine|Hirmuolio pine]] ([[User talk:Hirmuolio pine|talk]]) 13:44, 1 September 2017 (CDT)
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:|I was thinking similarly. Maybe it should be "beginners" and "experienced", rather than "description" and "guide". Put all the info and advice for new players on one page and link out to the rest. (That's easy to do, and I can handle it if others agree.) ([[User talk:Qwer stoneghost|talk]]) 15:51 Sep 1, 2017 -04:00 gmt
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Curious to see how it would work out, I gave it a try. All 3 pages are marked WiP at the moment - still editing typos and such.
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It's difficult to separate this material into "facts" and "guides". Except for long lists of missions, which generally already have their own pages, there aren't a lot of facts ... and much of the advice is so widely accepted that it might as well be fact. In any case, I think this version is cleaner than the previous one. ([[User talk:Qwer stoneghost|talk]]) 11:30 Sep 2, 2017 -04:00 gmt
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== Name: "distribution" or "courier" mission? ==
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Does Eve use the word "Distribution" anywhere for missions? I am looking at a storyline mission offer "A Little Work On The Side" that has "Important Storyline - Courier" Doesn't say "Distribution. If Eve doesn't use "Distribution", then it should be changed to "courier" on any mission pages of this website.
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: Yes, "distribution" is used in game. For example open the agency (alt+m), go to agents & missions, then missions agents. There you find a menu point "Distribution Agents". I'm not sure where in the game it's called courier and where distribution. Sadly CCP is often inconsistent with nomenclature but that isn't really surprising considering the age of the game. (I added a section for this question.) [[User:Erwin Madelung|Erwin Madelung]] ([[User talk:Erwin Madelung|talk]]) 07:43, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
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:: The agent division is called Distribution. The mission type that is about transporting stuff however is called Courier, as Erwin said this can be seen in the journal. And I have been changing that on mission pages when I am editing them anyway. I do not believe that we should edit mission pages just because of the type, but I will put this up to [[User:Arin Mara|Arin]] to get her opinion. --[[User:Evon R'al|Evon R'al]] ([[User talk:Evon R'al|talk]]) 11:01, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
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:: A good question! I've had to consult Evon's edits, the number of "distribution" and "courier" occurrences, [[UniWiki:Mission formatting guidelines]] and [[Template:Missiondetails]]. [[UniWiki:Welcome#UniWiki_ideals]] says "Balance Tradition And Innovation". Lean towards tradition, lean towards what it already says on the Wiki. Missions are of type (Courier, Encounter, Mining, Trade, Industry, Exploration, Travel, Branch) a.k.a. what the journal says. Agents are of type (Mining, Security, Distribution, Rsearch, COSMOS, Epic Arc, Storyline, Faction Warfare, Career) a.k.a. what the Static Data Export and Agency window say. "Cost Of Perfection Is Infinite". Changing all Mission types from "Distribution" to "Courier" is [[User:ArinBot]] work (or can be solved by enforcing a type through a Template). I'd much rather you take up a task from the [[UniWiki:To-Do_List#Writing]] section. [[User:Arin Mara|Arin Mara]] ([[User talk:Arin Mara|talk]]) 06:22, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

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2017-08-30 I'm working on reorganizing this page. Qwer stoneghost (talk)

2017-08-31 Reorganized into three main sections: Basics, Advice for Beginners, Details.

Many new players come here to get an overview of how missions work. They get lost if there are too many nitty gritty details in the descriptions. BASICS tries to give just the essentials that beginners might need to get started. BASICS gives just facts ... ADVICE gives tips and hints. DETAILS includes all the very specific and technical stuff. SHIPS is a short section that mostly points out to another page. It's a separate section because it's a hot topic and ought to be easy to find.

I tried to check for content and form as I went along. I'm sure it needs more editing, though.

I feel like the article is getting long enough that it could be split to "missions" and "how to missions" articles. Currently it switches between mission info and missionsing guide sections.Hirmuolio pine (talk) 13:44, 1 September 2017 (CDT)
|I was thinking similarly. Maybe it should be "beginners" and "experienced", rather than "description" and "guide". Put all the info and advice for new players on one page and link out to the rest. (That's easy to do, and I can handle it if others agree.) (talk) 15:51 Sep 1, 2017 -04:00 gmt

Curious to see how it would work out, I gave it a try. All 3 pages are marked WiP at the moment - still editing typos and such.

It's difficult to separate this material into "facts" and "guides". Except for long lists of missions, which generally already have their own pages, there aren't a lot of facts ... and much of the advice is so widely accepted that it might as well be fact. In any case, I think this version is cleaner than the previous one. (talk) 11:30 Sep 2, 2017 -04:00 gmt

Name: "distribution" or "courier" mission?

Does Eve use the word "Distribution" anywhere for missions? I am looking at a storyline mission offer "A Little Work On The Side" that has "Important Storyline - Courier" Doesn't say "Distribution. If Eve doesn't use "Distribution", then it should be changed to "courier" on any mission pages of this website.

Yes, "distribution" is used in game. For example open the agency (alt+m), go to agents & missions, then missions agents. There you find a menu point "Distribution Agents". I'm not sure where in the game it's called courier and where distribution. Sadly CCP is often inconsistent with nomenclature but that isn't really surprising considering the age of the game. (I added a section for this question.) Erwin Madelung (talk) 07:43, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
The agent division is called Distribution. The mission type that is about transporting stuff however is called Courier, as Erwin said this can be seen in the journal. And I have been changing that on mission pages when I am editing them anyway. I do not believe that we should edit mission pages just because of the type, but I will put this up to Arin to get her opinion. --Evon R'al (talk) 11:01, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
A good question! I've had to consult Evon's edits, the number of "distribution" and "courier" occurrences, UniWiki:Mission formatting guidelines and Template:Missiondetails. UniWiki:Welcome#UniWiki_ideals says "Balance Tradition And Innovation". Lean towards tradition, lean towards what it already says on the Wiki. Missions are of type (Courier, Encounter, Mining, Trade, Industry, Exploration, Travel, Branch) a.k.a. what the journal says. Agents are of type (Mining, Security, Distribution, Rsearch, COSMOS, Epic Arc, Storyline, Faction Warfare, Career) a.k.a. what the Static Data Export and Agency window say. "Cost Of Perfection Is Infinite". Changing all Mission types from "Distribution" to "Courier" is User:ArinBot work (or can be solved by enforcing a type through a Template). I'd much rather you take up a task from the UniWiki:To-Do_List#Writing section. Arin Mara (talk) 06:22, 2 July 2022 (UTC)