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There are a few other roles that we'll need flown very infrequently, but that miners might want to try out. These include:

* Other EWAR: Sensor dampening in the [[Maulus]], or tracking disruption in the [[Crucifier]]. In general, these will be less effective than ECM. Our opponent(s) will have already locked onto a miner, so damps won't save an aggressed miner. And our opponents will easily be able to close range on a slow mining vessel, such that tracking disruption will have little effect. Nevertheless, I can think of situations where these vessels could be effective.

* '''Other EWAR:''' Sensor dampening in the [[Maulus]], or tracking disruption in the [[Crucifier]]. In general, these will be less effective than ECM. Our opponent(s) will have already locked onto a miner, so damps won't save an aggressed miner. And our opponents will easily be able to close range on a slow mining vessel, such that tracking disruption will have little effect. Nevertheless, I can think of situations where these vessels could be effective.

* Combat scanner (either in a Tech 1 exploration frigate, or a Tech 2 Covert Ops frigate). If an aggressor is monitoring us from a safe spot, it might be useful to scan him or her down using Combat Scanning Probes.

* '''Combat scanner''' (either in a Tech 1 exploration frigate, or a Tech 2 Covert Ops frigate). If an aggressor is monitoring us from a safe spot, it might be useful to scan him or her down using Combat Scanning Probes.

* Anti-frigate support. If our opponents are flying lots of fast frigates--unusual in low sec, but possible--they may be able to evade the turrets on our heavy tacklers. Light missiles are a great counter to frigate swarms. The rapid light missile launcher-fitted [[Caracal]] is probably the most common counter to frigates, but missile destroyers like the [[Talwar]] or [[Corax]] also work.

* '''Anti-frigate support'''. If our opponents are flying lots of fast frigates--unusual in low sec, but possible--they may be able to evade the turrets on our heavy tacklers. Light missiles are a great counter to frigate swarms. The rapid light missile launcher-fitted [[Caracal]] is probably the most common counter to frigates, but missile destroyers like the [[Talwar]] or [[Corax]] also work.

* Damage dealer. Along with the four heavy combat cruisers described earlier, each race also a light attack cruiser: the [[Omen]], [[Caracal]], [[Thorax]] and [[Stabber]]. These cruisers are bonused for damage rather than tank, and so are useful to add that extra bit of damage necessary to finish off an opponent. I expect that we will outnumber our opponents, and when this is the case, heavy tackle is more appropriate. Nevertheless, I can imagine situations where more damage might help.

* '''Damage dealer'''. Along with the four heavy combat cruisers described earlier, each race also a Tech 1 light attack cruiser: the [[Omen]], [[Caracal]], [[Thorax]] and [[Stabber]]. These cruisers are bonused for damage rather than tank, and so are useful to add that extra bit of damage necessary to finish off an opponent. I expect that we will outnumber our opponents, and when this is the case, heavy tackle is more appropriate. Nevertheless, I can imagine situations where more damage might help.

====Ships I recommend against:====

'''Tech 1 Logistics.''' Each race has a Tech 1 logistics cruiser, and logistics serves as a great force multiplier in fleets. It's easy to imagine how a logistics ship could save a fleetmate (e.g., an aggressed miner) from destruction. However, solo logistics pilots are extremely vulnerable to cap warfare, and logistics cruisers have less tank, and have more expensive fittings, relative to other cruisers. If you are considering flying logistics, I recommend heavy tackle instead.

'''Exhumers.''' We will lose mining vessels in low sec. Even though the Skiff is amazingly tanky, if we get hotdropped by a cyno'd, 10-pilot fleet of veterans, we will lose whatever vessel they choose to target. I would rather that be something cheap.

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 There are a few other roles that we'll need flown very infrequently, but that miners might want to try out. These include:
-* Other EWAR: Sensor dampening in the [[Maulus]], or tracking disruption in the [[Crucifier]]. In general, these will be less effective than ECM. Our opponent(s) will have already locked onto a miner, so damps won't save an aggressed miner. And our opponents will easily be able to close range on a slow mining vessel, such that tracking disruption will have little effect. Nevertheless, I can think of situations where these vessels could be effective.
+* '''Other EWAR:''' Sensor dampening in the [[Maulus]], or tracking disruption in the [[Crucifier]]. In general, these will be less effective than ECM. Our opponent(s) will have already locked onto a miner, so damps won't save an aggressed miner. And our opponents will easily be able to close range on a slow mining vessel, such that tracking disruption will have little effect. Nevertheless, I can think of situations where these vessels could be effective.
-* Combat scanner (either in a Tech 1 exploration frigate, or a Tech 2 Covert Ops frigate). If an aggressor is monitoring us from a safe spot, it might be useful to scan him or her down using Combat Scanning Probes.
+* '''Combat scanner''' (either in a Tech 1 exploration frigate, or a Tech 2 Covert Ops frigate). If an aggressor is monitoring us from a safe spot, it might be useful to scan him or her down using Combat Scanning Probes.
-* Anti-frigate support. If our opponents are flying lots of fast frigates--unusual in low sec, but possible--they may be able to evade the turrets on our heavy tacklers. Light missiles are a great counter to frigate swarms. The rapid light missile launcher-fitted [[Caracal]] is probably the most common counter to frigates, but missile destroyers like the [[Talwar]] or [[Corax]] also work.
+* '''Anti-frigate support'''. If our opponents are flying lots of fast frigates--unusual in low sec, but possible--they may be able to evade the turrets on our heavy tacklers. Light missiles are a great counter to frigate swarms. The rapid light missile launcher-fitted [[Caracal]] is probably the most common counter to frigates, but missile destroyers like the [[Talwar]] or [[Corax]] also work.
-* Damage dealer. Along with the four heavy combat cruisers described earlier, each race also a light attack cruiser: the [[Omen]], [[Caracal]], [[Thorax]] and [[Stabber]]. These cruisers are bonused for damage rather than tank, and so are useful to add that extra bit of damage necessary to finish off an opponent. I expect that we will outnumber our opponents, and when this is the case, heavy tackle is more appropriate. Nevertheless, I can imagine situations where more damage might help.
+* '''Damage dealer'''. Along with the four heavy combat cruisers described earlier, each race also a Tech 1 light attack cruiser: the [[Omen]], [[Caracal]], [[Thorax]] and [[Stabber]]. These cruisers are bonused for damage rather than tank, and so are useful to add that extra bit of damage necessary to finish off an opponent. I expect that we will outnumber our opponents, and when this is the case, heavy tackle is more appropriate. Nevertheless, I can imagine situations where more damage might help.
+====Ships I recommend against:====
+'''Tech 1 Logistics.''' Each race has a Tech 1 logistics cruiser, and logistics serves as a great force multiplier in fleets. It's easy to imagine how a logistics ship could save a fleetmate (e.g., an aggressed miner) from destruction. However, solo logistics pilots are extremely vulnerable to cap warfare, and logistics cruisers have less tank, and have more expensive fittings, relative to other cruisers. If you are considering flying logistics, I recommend heavy tackle instead.
+'''Exhumers.''' We will lose mining vessels in low sec. Even though the Skiff is amazingly tanky, if we get hotdropped by a cyno'd, 10-pilot fleet of veterans, we will lose whatever vessel they choose to target. I would rather that be something cheap.