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This guide describes what to expect in the typical mining operation run by Eve University mining fleet commanders, and how to fit in smoothly.  
This guide describes what to expect in the typical mining operation run by Eve University mining fleet commanders, and how to fit in smoothly.  


Remember, even if you don't have a ship for mining or hauling, University students can get one for free from the [[Mining Loaner Fleet]] program!
Remember, even if you don't have a ship for mining or hauling, if you are a member of the [[AMC|Amarr Mining Campus]] you can get a Venture for free.
 
'''''Important Note''''': Mining Loaner Fleet is no long being offered.


== Types of Mining Ops  ==
== Types of Mining Ops  ==
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There are several kinds of mining operations. However, most Uni ops - scheduled or pick up - are one of these types:  
There are several kinds of mining operations. However, most Uni ops - scheduled or pick up - are one of these types:  


*''Shared Can'': This is a jetcan mining operation where the miners place the raw ore into a jetcan (which was jettisoned by someone and named so it will last two hours), and a hauler regularly takes the ore out of the can and when full, takes it to a station for later processing.
*''Shared Can'': This is a jetcan mining operation where the miners place the raw ore into a jetcan (which was jettisoned by someone and named so it will last two hours), and a hauler regularly takes the ore out of the can and when full, takes it to a station for later processing. These operations will typically use an Orca to provide mining boosts.  


*''Orca'': In this operation, the miners place their ore directly into an Orca's designated Corporation Hangar (see [[#How_to_Use_an_Orca|How to Use an Orca]] below). If there is no additional hauler (or another Orca), then while the Orca is dropping the ore off at a station, a jetcan will be used to hold the ore until the Orca returns.
*''Orca'': In this operation, the miners place their ore directly into an Orca's designated Corporation Hangar (see [[#How_to_Use_an_Orca|How to Use an Orca]] below). If there is no additional hauler (or another Orca), then while the Orca is dropping the ore off at a station, a jetcan will be used to hold the ore until the Orca returns.


*''Boost only'': This is not really a "mining operation" and hence won't be covered in this guide. This is a fleet you can join to get "boosts" from the fleet commander while in the same system. This is typically an Orca pilot with a few spare fleet spots that he lets others use. There is no shared ore or profit. Sometimes referred to as a BYOC (bring your own can) operation.
*''Boost only'': This is not a true "mining operation," as they are usually not planned ahead of time. This is a fleet you can join to get "boosts" from the fleet commander while in the same system. This is typically an Orca pilot with a few spare fleet spots that he lets others use. There is no shared ore or profit. Sometimes referred to as a BYOC (bring your own can) operation.


The mining operation fleet commander will inform the fleet members what sort of operation is being run and, hence, how the miners should handle their ore.  
The mining operation fleet commander will inform the fleet members what sort of operation is being run and, hence, how the miners should handle their ore.  
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There are many ways to participate in a mining operation. Most newer players will, of course, be mining in a mining frigate or cruiser. Newer players can also be effective haulers once they have a reasonably fitted industrial ([[Creating an Alt Hauler]] shows how much common, unrigged industrial ships carry).  
There are many ways to participate in a mining operation. Most newer players will, of course, be mining in a mining frigate or cruiser. Newer players can also be effective haulers once they have a reasonably fitted industrial ([[Creating an Alt Hauler]] shows how much common, unrigged industrial ships carry).  


=== Miner  ===
=== Miner  (For Shared Can/Orca Fleets)===


Participating as a miner is very simple. Essentially, after joining the fleet, you'll warp to one of the fleet members, target your asteroids, and activate your miners. The ore will be placed in a specified jetcan or a specified Orca Corporation Hangar. If there isn't a jetcan near you feel free to make a new one by right clicking the ore in your cargo hold and clicking Jettison. Once the new can is made, right click the can in space and select Set Name; then give the can a name.   
Participating as a miner is very simple. Essentially, after joining the fleet, you'll warp to one of the fleet members, target your asteroids, and activate your miners. While doing this try not to mine the same asteroids that others are mining.  The ore will be placed in a specified jetcan or a specified Orca Corporation Hangar. If there isn't a jetcan near you feel free to make a new one by right clicking the ore in your cargo hold and clicking Jettison. Once the new can is made, right click the can in space and select Set Name; then give the can a name.   


A common naming convention for fleet mining is as follows:
A common naming convention for fleet mining is as follows:
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Once the can is full, rename can to 'Full TT:TT' (TT:TT is the original EVE time can was created). If you are leaving the area for any reason (e.g., the belt is depleted, there are no more asteroids in range, or you are simply calling it a day) before the can is full, rename the can to 'pull TT:TT' (where TT:TT is again the original EVE time the can was created). This ensures that you don't just warp away leaving a 'fleet' can to perhaps be overlooked. One practice that is often seen is to x up the can in Fleet chat when you change the status of your can from 'fleet' to 'full' or 'pull,' e.g., "x PULL 2015". Using this convention helps the haulers prioritize which can needs to be emptied next since jettisoned cans last approximately 2 hours.
Once the can is full, rename can to 'Full TT:TT' (TT:TT is the original EVE time can was created). If you are leaving the area for any reason (e.g., the belt is depleted, there are no more asteroids in range, or you are simply calling it a day) before the can is full, rename the can to 'pull TT:TT' (where TT:TT is again the original EVE time the can was created). This ensures that you don't just warp away leaving a 'fleet' can to perhaps be overlooked. One practice that is often seen is to x up the can in Fleet chat when you change the status of your can from 'fleet' to 'full' or 'pull,' e.g., "x PULL 2015". Using this convention helps the haulers prioritize which can needs to be emptied next since jettisoned cans last approximately 2 hours.
=== Miner  (For Boost Only Fleets)===
Participating as a miner is simple as well. Essentially, after joining the fleet, find a asteroid belt with no fleet members in it, target your asteroids, and activate your miners. Once your hold is full return it to a station or jetcan it to be picked up by a hauler that was already arranged.


=== Hauler  ===
=== Hauler  ===
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=== Checklist  ===
=== Checklist  ===


#Pick your location. If you cannot refine the ore yourself, 50% Minmatar Mining Corporation stations or 50% Caldari Business Tribunal stations are good choices, as you can ask someone to refine for you, or use Aldrat so you can use the Uni's free [[Perfect Refine List#University_Service|perfect refine service]] at Aldrat IX - Moon 13 - MMC station.  
#Pick your location. If you cannot refine the ore yourself, 50% Minmatar Mining Corporation stations or 50% Caldari Business Tribunal stations are good choices, or you can ask someone to refine for you.
#Pick what type of op you want to run. This will depend on your resources.  
#Pick what type of op you want to run. This will depend on your resources.  
#*For example, with an Orca, everyone can mine and drop their ore directly into that (if within 2500m) and just use a JetCan while the Orca is docking (which it can then pick up with a tractor (if fitted)).  
#*For example, with an Orca, everyone can mine and drop their ore directly into that (if within 2500m) and just use a JetCan while the Orca is docking (which it can then pick up with a tractor (if fitted)).  
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#When the op's over, refine the ore into minerals.  
#When the op's over, refine the ore into minerals.  
#*You can do this yourself, or  
#*You can do this yourself, or  
#*You can ask someone to do it for you, or
#*You can ask someone to do it for you
#*You can use the Uni's [[Perfect Refine List#University_Service|perfect refine service]]
#Sell the minerals, probably in Rens or Hek  
#Sell the minerals, probably in Rens or Hek  
#*You can use sell orders, but for faster ISK you can sell into the market; prices are usually better in Rens. You can check the Rens prices in Eystur, which is also one jump from Hek.  
#*You can use sell orders, but for faster ISK you can sell into the market; prices are usually better in Rens. You can check the Rens prices in Eystur, which is also one jump from Hek.  
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When you start mining, put into fleet chat:  
When you start mining, put into fleet chat:  
   LASERS ON HH:MM
   LASERS ON HH:MM - (Ship Type)
When you stop mining:  
When you stop mining:  
   LASERS OFF HH:MM
   LASERS OFF HH:MM
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#Get to the appropriate system, then warp to the fleet, typically by warping to one of the other miners using the fleet window.  
#Get to the appropriate system, then warp to the fleet, typically by warping to one of the other miners using the fleet window.  
#In fleet chat, clearly state the time your mining (or participation) begins  
#In fleet chat, clearly state the time your mining (or participation) begins  
#*For example, "<---- Lasers ON at 22:34 -- Callin Vandylx"  
#*For example, "<---- Lasers ON at 22:34 -- Callin Vandylx - (Ship Type)"  
#If you have to take a break or go AFK for more than a short time (defined as however long it takes your lasers to typically fill your cargo hold, or whatever time your hauling interval usually is), inform the fleet and clock out when you leave and back in when you return.  
#If you have to take a break or go AFK for more than a short time (defined as however long it takes your lasers to typically fill your cargo hold, or whatever time your hauling interval usually is), inform the fleet and clock out when you leave and back in when you return.  
#*For example, "<---- Lasers OFF at 22:35 -- Callin Vandylx - (Ship Type)"
#If you return to the fleet be sure to make that known as well.
#*For example, "<---- Lasers ON at 22:36 -- Callin Vandylx - (Ship Type)"
#Mine in to the jetcan or Orca, haul, or do whatever the fleet commander has assigned to you for your responsibilities.  
#Mine in to the jetcan or Orca, haul, or do whatever the fleet commander has assigned to you for your responsibilities.  
#Warp to different belts, or jump to different systems, as the operation moves, per the fleet commander's orders.
#Warp to different belts, or jump to different systems, as the operation moves, per the fleet commander's orders.