Difference between revisions of "Getting positive Triglavian and EDENCOM standings"

From EVE University Wiki
Jump to: navigation, search
Line 28: Line 28:
 
* Standing loss causes positive derived standing.
 
* Standing loss causes positive derived standing.
  
=== D-scan ===
+
=== Locating rats ===
  
 
Rats in Pochven are unusual in that they are visible in [[Directional scanning|Directional scanner]]. This makes it much easier to locate rats.
 
Rats in Pochven are unusual in that they are visible in [[Directional scanning|Directional scanner]]. This makes it much easier to locate rats.
Line 38: Line 38:
  
 
Use this overview preset in your d-scan to quicly locate targets to kill.
 
Use this overview preset in your d-scan to quicly locate targets to kill.
 +
 +
Rats can be found on stargates, stations, planets, moons, POCOs and cosmic anomalies.
  
 
=== Entering Pochven ===
 
=== Entering Pochven ===

Revision as of 19:01, 12 January 2021

Roaming Triglavian Collective and EDENCOM ships are aggressive and dangerous to all players who do not have positive standings with them. Most often these rats appear in Triglavian minor victory systems, EDENCOM systems and in Pochven. But randomly spawning wormholes can cause Triglavians to spawn in normal systems that are close to the old position of a detached Pochven system.

This makes large areas of normal space dangerous to all who do not have positive standings with these factions.

This guide explains how to easily get both Triglavian and EDENCOM standings.

Basic information

Killing EDENCOM ships results in positive Triglavian standing gain, but it will also result in equal negative standing gain towards EDENCOM. This is not good.

Killing Triglavian rats results in negative Triglavian standing gain, but it will also result in equal positive standing gain towards EDENCOM. This is not useful.

Killing Rogue Drones, Sleepers or Drifters in Pochven results in positive standing gain to both EDENCOM and Triglavians. So this is what you will have to do.

In general bigger ships give more standing. Rogue Drones give least standing, Sleepers give more and Drifters give the most.

If the system has no targets to kill you'll have to exit and try again with another filament. If you have probes you can use wormhole exit to skip 15 minute wait in between filament uses.

Standing mechanics

Standing is gained in ticks. These ticks occur once every 10 minutes.

If you kill multiple ships of same faction during same tick period you will gain standings from only the biggest kill. So if you find multiple big targets to kill you should kill one target, wait for standing tick and then kill the secon target.

Triglavians, EDENCOM, Rogue Drones and Drifters use different standing mechanics from other factions. The most notable differences are:

  • None of the standing skills have any effect.
  • Standing loss causes positive derived standing.

Locating rats

Rats in Pochven are unusual in that they are visible in Directional scanner. This makes it much easier to locate rats.

Create new overview preset that includes the following

  • Drifter Entities
  • Rogue Drone Entities
  • Sleeper Entities

Use this overview preset in your d-scan to quicly locate targets to kill.

Rats can be found on stargates, stations, planets, moons, POCOs and cosmic anomalies.

Entering Pochven

The easiest way to enter Pochven is to use an inbound filament. These can be bought off the market. These filaments come in many variants: border, cladistic, home and 5 or 15 pilot fleet sizes. For our purposes the destination system does not matter at all. Just buy the cheapest filament. It is also good idea to buy an exit filament so you can get out easily.

If you want to do this in a fleet note that, depending on the filament type, the filaments can take only 5 or 15 pilots.


Entering through wormhole instead of filament has multiple benefits: No fleet size limit and no need to wait timers. The problem is that finding Pochven connections will require more work. See Pochven Entry Manual for more details on how to easily find suitable wormholes.

Killing Rogue Drones

This method works only if you have 0.00 or close to it Triglavian standing. So if you did not take part in chapter 3 of Triglavian invasions this is for you.

Rogue Drone swarms are the weakest rats that give the required standings. The standing gain from them is miniscule so gaining significant standings with them is not practical. But if you have 0.00 standing then any standing gain is enough to make Triglavians neutral.

  • Grab a destroyer with long range weapons (artillery/rail/beam).
  • Enter Pochven.
  • Use d-scan to find Rogue Drone rats. The rat should be named something like "Phase-I Swarmer".
  • Warp to the rat at range, kill one of the weak drones, warp out.

After approximately 10 minutes you will get the standing tick.

Leeching off kills

Pochven systems have roaming fleets from multiple factions. They kill each other.

If you activate an offensive module on a rat and that rat is killed by NPC you will gain standings.

This can be used to get standing if you are not able to kill rats on your own, or if you want to get bigger standing ticks than what the smallest drones give.

This is quite unreliable method as the roaming rats may not meet each other or they may not be "active" if players are not present.

  • Grab a T1 EWAR frigate. Fit one EWAR module and targeting range enhancers.
  • Enter pochven.
  • Use d-scan to find a target.
  • Warp to the rat at 100 km, apply EWAR to biggest ship you see, warp out.

Eventually that rat will probably die and you get the standings.

Killing Sleepers

Sleepers give much more standings than Rogue Drones. They are also considerably harder to kill. Doing this solo is strongly not recommended. Bring a fleet with logi support. Onnly players who activated offensive module on the target get standings. So logi ships should bring combat drones.

The Sleepers deal omni damage and have flat resists. They use warp scramblers (real ones that shut down MWD/MJD), webs and energy neutralizers.

Killing Drifters

Occasionally Sleeper fleets can have Drifters with them. Drifters are the most powerful rats in Pochven. They also give the biggest standing gains so you will want to kill them when possible.

In addition to powerful normal weapons they have the feared supwerweapons.

The weakest Drifter cruisers and battleships do not have supwerweapons (Drifter Scout Cruiser, Drifter Raider Battleship). Kill them on sight without care.

The stronger Drifters have superweapons on them. When the overshield is depleted the superweapon is fired on their currently aggressed target (or random player if they are fighting with NPC rats).

The superweapon is powerful enough to kill almost any subcapital ship in single hit. The weaker cruiser deals 102400 damage while the strongest battleship deals 512000 damage.

To reliably kill Drifters you need to be able to avoid the damage from the superweapon.

The drifter AI prioritizes logi ship that does the most repairing. This can be used to force it to target specific ship. Logi cruiser with afterburner and signature reducing command burst effect orbiting at 500 meters can cause the superweapon to miss with decent success rate.

See also