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{{Update|Review for December 2021, Version 19.11 changes.<br>Review for March 2022, Version 20.03 changes}}
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[[File:Orca512.jpg|200px|thumb|The incredible Orca]]
 
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The [[Orca]] is a [[mining]] support vessel, classified as an Industrial Command Ship. You need to train the {{sk|Industrial Command Ships|mult=yes|price=yes}} skill in order to fly it. Note that even though it is listed under "Capital Industrial Ships" in the EVE market, it does NOT require the {{sk|Capital Industrial Ships}} skill (so don't buy the wrong skillbook!)
 
  
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==Skill Requirements==
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[[File:Orca.jpg|200px|thumb|The incredible Orca]]
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{{hatnote|This article details the use of the Orca. For ship stats and other mechanical information, see [[Orca]].}}
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The '''Orca''' is a mining support ship, classified as an Industrial Command Ship. The {{Sk|Industrial Command Ships|mult=yes|price=yes}} skill is required to fly it. Note that even though it is listed under "Capital Industrial Ships" in the EVE market, it does ''not'' require the {{Sk|Capital Industrial Ships}} skill.
  
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* {{sk|Industrial Command Ships|I}} 
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== Skill requirements ==
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** {{sk|Spaceship Command|V}}
 
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** {{sk|ORE Industrial|III}} 
 
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* {{sk|Mining Director|I}} 
 
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** {{sk|Leadership|I}} 
 
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** {{sk|Mining Foreman|V}}
 
  
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==What do you get when you buy an Orca?==
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* {{Sk|Industrial Command Ships|I}}
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** {{Sk|Spaceship Command|V}}
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** {{Sk|ORE Hauler|III}}
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* {{Sk|Mining Director|I}}
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** {{Sk|Leadership|I}}
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** {{Sk|Mining Foreman|V}}
  
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===Cargo Space===
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== Traits and utility ==
  
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Possibly the biggest selling point of the Orca is the huge amount of cargo space that it supports for a ship that “only” costs around 700 million ISK.  The ship has 4 different areas for storage. 
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=== Cargo space ===
  
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* The first is the '''<span style="color:#F5DEB3">Cargo Hold</span>'''.  This starts off holding 30,000 m3, and can be expanded through modules, rigs, and an additional 5% bonus for each level of the Industrial Command Ship skill.  Maxed out for hauling, you could fit over 90,000 m3 in the cargo hold.  This is the ONLY hold on the ship that receives bonuses from mods, rigs, and skills.
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Possibly the biggest selling point of the Orca is the huge amount of cargo space that it supports for a ship that “only” costs around 1.8 billion ISK. The ship has 4 different areas for storage:
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* The second is a 50,000 m3 '''<span style="color:#F5DEB3">Ore Hold</span>''' that can contain only mined materials (unrefined ore, ice and gas). If you try to drag modules or anything else into the ore hold, you’ll get an error message.
 
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* The next area on the ship is called the '''<span style="color:#F5DEB3">Fleet Hangar</span>''', which holds another 40,000 m3.  This hangar can be made available to other fleet members or members of the pilot's corporation for access in space.  This is very useful for supporting mining operations, as mining fleetmates can then use the Fleet Hangar to store mined ore or ice.  The Orca pilot can then move that ore or ice to the Ore Hold or Cargo Hold, or leave it in the Fleet Hangar, as space permits.
 
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* The final cargo hold is actually a '''<span style="color:#F5DEB3">Ship Maintenance Bay</span>'''.  This area holds 400,000 m3, which sounds like a great deal, but there’s a catch – the only items you can put into the bay are assembled ships.  To give you an idea of what would fit in the bay, here are the sizes of some common vessels, when assembled:
 
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**[[Rifter]] – 27,289 m3
 
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**[[Scythe]] – 89,000 m3
 
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**[[Osprey]] – 107,000 m3
 
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**[[Skiff]]/[[Procurer]] – 100,000 m3
 
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**[[Mackinaw]]/[[Retriever]] – 150,000 m3
 
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**[[Hulk]]/[[Covetor]] – 200,000 m3
 
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**[[Raven]] – 486,000 m3
 
  
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So if you’re using this to support Hulks, you’ll fit at most 2 in the bay.
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* '''{{Co|wheat|Cargohold}}''': The Orca's base cargohold is 30,000 {{m3}}, which can be expanded through modules and rigs. The cargohold also receives an additional 5% bonus to size for each level of {{Sk|Industrial Command Ships|icon=yes}}. Maxed out for hauling, an Orca can fit over 90,000 m³ in its cargo hold. This is the ''only'' hold on the ship that receives bonuses from modules and rigs.
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* '''{{Co|wheat|Mining Hold}}''': As its name suggests, the mining hold can contain only mined materials (unrefined ore, ice and gas). Attempting to move modules or anything else into the mining hold will result in an error message. The mining hold receives a 5% bonus to size for each level of {{Sk|Industrial Command Ships|icon=yes}}. added to its base 150,000 m³.
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* '''{{Co|wheat|Fleet Hangar}}''': The fleet hangar holds 40,000 m³ and can be made available to other fleet members or members of the pilot's corporation for access in space. This is very useful for supporting mining operations, as mining fleetmates can then use the fleet hangar to store mined ore or ice. The Orca pilot can then move that ore or ice to the mining hold or cargohold, or leave it in the fleet hangar, as space permits.
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* '''{{Co|wheat|Ship Maintenance Bay}}''': This bay holds 400,000 m³, and can only contain assembled ships. Ship in a fleet hangar can only contain ammunition and charges; attempting to load assembled ships with other items in their cargoholds (such as ore or modules) will result in an error message. For an idea of what can or can't fit in this bay, here are the sizes of some common ships when assembled:
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** {{Sh|Rifter}} – 27,289 {{m3}}
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** {{Sh|Scythe}} – 89,000 {{m3}}
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** {{Sh|Osprey}} – 107,000 {{m3}}
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** {{Sh|Procurer}}/[[Skiff]]/[[Mackinaw]]/[[Retriever]]/[[Hulk]]/[[Covetor]] – 150,000 {{m3}}
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** {{Sh|Raven}} – 486,000 {{m3}}
  
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To allow access the ship maintenance bay, the Orca pilot must set access for fleet members or corporation members or both. If a fleet member wants to switch ships in space, they can open the ship maintenance bay, right click the ship they want to use, and choose either “Board Ship from Bay” or “Launch ship from bay.” The Board option is safer – it stores your current ship in the bay, and puts you into the new one in space. It’s only available if there is enough room in the bay to store the new ship minus the old ship. Otherwise, you have to choose the Launch option, which leaves your current ship abandoned in space, and puts you in the new one. As with any abandoned ship, this could potentially allow someone to steal your ship, so use the option cautiously.
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To allow access to the ship maintenance bay, the Orca pilot must set access for fleet members or corporation members or both. If a fleet member wants to switch ships in space, they can open the ship maintenance bay, right click the ship they want to use, and choose either “Board Ship from Bay” or “Launch Ship from Bay.” The "Board" option is safer – it stores the pilot's current ship in the bay, and puts them into the new one in space. It’s only available if there is enough room in the bay to store the new ship minus the old ship. Otherwise, pilots must choose the Launch option, which leaves their current ship abandoned in space, and puts them into the new one. As with any abandoned ship, this could potentially enable theft.
  
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===Fitting Service===
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=== Fitting service ===
  
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Besides being able to swap ships, the Orca has a fitting service – so you can swap modules while in space. Right click on the Orca to choose to Use Fitting Service. You can swap fittings that are in the cargohold of the ship you’re flying, or you can pull fittings out of the Orca’s bays. Drones can also be swapped in and out of a ship's drone bay.
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Besides being able to swap ships, the Orca has a fitting service, so pilots can refit their ships while in space. To access this function, right click on the Orca while within 2500m to choose to "Use Fitting Service". Pilots can swap fittings that are in the cargohold of their own ship, or they can pull fittings out of the Orca’s bays. Drones can also be swapped in and out of a ship's drone bay.
  
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===Tractor Beam Bonuses===
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=== Tractor Beam bonuses ===
  
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The Orca gets 2 big bonuses to tractor beams.  The first is a 250% range increase, and the second is a 100% beam velocity increase. While the velocity increase is nice to have, since you’ll usually only fit one beam at most, the range increase is really nice – if you’re supporting a mining op with multiple players, the ability to pull all the cans without moving is huge. Whether you pull them and loot them or pull them just so your industrials can have a single warp-in point, it’s a big timesaver.  It’s also great for pulling in wrecks to a single location to be looted/salvaged.
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The Orca receives two large role bonuses to Tractor Beams: a 250% bonus to range, and a 100% bonus to beam velocity. Both bonuses are helpful, but since most pilots usually only fit one Tractor Beam at most, the range increase is the most noticeable of the two. Orcas equipped with Tractor Beams can serve as storage for a fleet's ore, or the Orca pilot can leave the jetcans in space for other hauler ships to pick up in a central location. Orcas can also combine Tractor Beams with Salvagers to loot and salvage the wrecks of any [[belt rat]]s that may spawn.
  
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===Survey Scanner Bonus===
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=== Survey Scanner bonus ===
  
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Survey scanners on an Orca get a 500% range increase, so you can see how much ore is in every rock in over a 100km radius. This allows the Orca pilot to easily tag asteroids to mark those that are full or nearly empty, and better coordinate the miners.
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Survey scanners on an Orca receive a 500% role bonus to range, so Orca pilots are able to see how much ore is in every rock in over a 100km radius. This allows the Orca pilot to easily tag asteroids to mark those that are full or nearly empty, and better coordinate the miners.
  
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===Command Burst Modules===
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=== Command Burst modules ===
  
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The way you boost your fleet is by using [[Command Bursts]] in your high slots. You can equip and use 3 [[Command Bursts]] on the Orca at the same time.  This can be expanded to 5 [[Command Bursts]] with the use of two Command Burst Processor Rigs (150 calibration each). You will probably want to have the three Mining Command Burst Charges as well as a couple of the shield Command Burst Charges (See [https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/command-bursts/ Command Burst Dev Blog]).
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The Orca is capable of boosting fleets by using [[Command Bursts]] in its high slots. By default, it can equip and use three Command Bursts simultaneously, and this can be expanded to five Command Bursts with the use of two Command Burst Processor Rigs (150 calibration each). For most mining operations, Orca pilots will want to bring all three Mining Foreman Command Burst charges, though some Orca pilots will forgo the Mining Equipment Preservation charge. Shield Command Bursts are not always necessary, particularly if the mining fleet is in higher-security space.
  
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You can customize the burst being provided by a command burst module by changing the ammunition (the charge). The charges for the mining foreman command burst modules are:
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You can customize the burst being provided by a command burst module by changing the ammunition (the charge). The charges for the mining foreman command burst modules are:
  
 
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| Mining Laser Field Enhancement || Increases range of mining lasers, strip miners, ice harvesters, gas harvesters, and survey scanners || +30% || +114.26%
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| Mining Laser Field Enhancement || Increases range of mining lasers, strip miners, ice harvesters, gas harvesters, and survey scanners || +40%  
 
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| Mining Laser Optimization || Reduces cycle time and capacitor use of mining lasers, strip miners, ice harvesters, and gas harvesters || -15% || -57.13%
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| Mining Laser Optimization || Reduces cycle time and capacitor use of mining lasers, strip miners, ice harvesters, and gas harvesters || -15%  
 
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| Mining Equipment Preservation || Reduces volatility of mining crystals || -15% || -57.13%
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| Mining Equipment Preservation || Reduces volatility of mining crystals || -15%  
 
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The orca gets the following bonuses for each level trained in [[Skills:Spaceship_Command#Industrial_Command_Ships|Industrial Command Ships]]:
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The Orca receives the following bonuses for each level trained in {{sk|Industrial Command Ships|icon=yes}}:
 
:3% bonus to Mining Foreman Burst effect strength and duration
 
:3% bonus to Mining Foreman Burst effect strength and duration
 
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===Tank===
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=== Tank ===
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Given the massive hull tank of the Orca, adding a '''Damage Control II''' (adds uniform 60% resists for your hull) and a '''Reinforced Bulkhead II''' module (increases structure hit points) in the lows alone will give the Orca a formidable tank. Add to that a 500MN compact MWD (for fitting purposes) and some shield tank and you can easily get a 200k+ ehp tanked Orca that cuts the align time down to 10 seconds flat (one pulse-cycle of the MWD). With '''Transverse Bulkhead''' rigs (increases structure but lower cargo hold capacity) you could even push the tank well above 400k ehp. If you don't need more tank you can use '''Hyperspatial Velocity''' rigs (higher warp speed but lower CPU capacity) or '''Cargohold Optimization''' rigs (increases cargo hold but reduces armour) or whatever else you need.
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Given the massive hull tank of the Orca, adding a '''Damage Control II''' (adds uniform 60% resists to structure HP) and a '''Reinforced Bulkhead II''' module (increases structure hit points) will give the Orca a formidable tank. Adding a '''500MN Compact Microwarpdrive''' (for fitting purposes) and shield tank modules will allow an Orca to easily achieve 200k+ EHP, with the additional ability to align in 10 seconds (one cycle of the MWD). With '''Transverse Bulkhead''' rigs (increases structure but lower cargo hold capacity) the tank can be pushed well above 400k ehp. If more tank is unnecessary or unwanted, '''Hyperspatial Velocity''' rigs (higher warp speed but lower CPU capacity) or '''Cargohold Optimization''' rigs (increases cargo hold but reduces armor) can also be useful.
  
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==Uses for the Orca==
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== Using an Orca ==
  
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===Mining Ops===
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=== Mining Ops ===
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{{expansion past| The Orca has some disadvantages in a mining op. First, it's a pilot that could be mining, assuming they have the skills. For example, if the Orca pilot has the skills they would need to fly a Hulk, they would need to be boosting four miners to be worthwhile in terms of yield over mining themselves. This is because an Orca with full bonuses ({{sk|Industrial Command Ships|V|icon=yes}}, {{sk|Mining Director|V|icon=yes}}, Warfare Link Specialist V (Deprecated), Mindlink Implant) would have roughly a 25% bonus to each activated mining link.|width=90%}}
  
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The obvious use for the ship is to support mining ops, but how?
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With the November 2016 Ascension update the Orca saw a drastic change in its ability to contribute to a mining op. Off-grid boosts were eliminated in favor of the new Command Burst system, and the Orca was given drastically increased mining and defensive capabilities.
  
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{{expansion past| The Orca has some disadvantages in a mining op. First, it's a pilot that could be mining, assuming they have the skills. For example, if the Orca pilot has the skills they would need to fly a Hulk, they would need to be boosting 4 miners to be worthwhile in terms of yield over mining themselves. This is because an Orca with full bonuses (Industrial Command Ship 5, Mining Director 5, Warfare Link Specialist 5, Mindlink Implant) would have roughly a 25% bonus to each activated mining link.|width=90%}}
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Post-Ascension, the Orca has the following mining bonuses:
  
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Secondly, the cargo space isn’t enough to support 4 or more hulks mining a belt.  Even if you fit it for max storage, it holds about 180,000 m3 of ore (remember, the ship bay only holds ships) between the cargohold, orehold, and fleet hangar.  That’s about 6 and a half full cans worth of ore.  Not bad, but a large mining op will fill up 6 cans quickly.  And if the Orca has to warp back to a station to keep dumping ore, that negates the link bonuses, as they deactivate in warp. Losing a range bonus halfway through a strip miner cycle can waste a lot of ore if the asteroid drops out of range.  Not to mention that the inertia and warp speed modifiers, while faster than a freighter, will still make your hulk feel like a frigate in comparison, so constantly moving the ship isn’t a real option. A dedicated hauler is still required.
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* 10% bonus to drone hitpoints, damage and mining yield per level of {{sk|Industrial Command Ships}}
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* 100% role bonus to drone mining yield
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* 25% reduction in ice harvesting drone cycle time
  
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However, the Orca has many bonuses on top of mining yield. The range burst is invaluable, as it cuts down on how often you have to move your mining ships to new targets, considering the speed of most mining vessels.  Someone who is out of range is mining zero ore.
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According to the dev blog describing the changes<ref>Community Dev Blog: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/mining-foreman-revolution/#ORCA</ref> to the Orca: "With both skill and role bonuses to mining drone yield, the Orca can pull in similar ore volumes to an [[Exhumer]]."
  
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Second, the range of the tractor beam on the Orca makes it great for pulling in cans to a central location, rather than having haulers slowboating around belts to scoop them up with pitiful range tractor beams.  Or even worse, requiring mining ships to haul their own ore back to station. The orca can also tractor the rat wrecks to a central point as well.  Many mining ops have more than one hauler.  If one of them is in an orca, not only do miners get the bonuses, but the haulers can be reduced in number since they have a single warp-in point to keep offloading ore. The orca pilot can also use drones to destroy and salvage belt rats allowing miners to equip only mining drones and removing the need for someone to have a salvage module in a high slot.  Another advantage of the huge range on the beam is that the orca can pull in cans when a can flipper is in the system. Don't forget that if the Hulks / miners remain within 2500m of the Orca then miners can drop the ore directly into the fleet hangar completely removing the risk of theft.
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Post-Ascension, the Orca's ability to store and haul ore has been greatly increased. With {{sk|Industrial Command Ships|V|icon=yes}}, the Orca's ore hold alone can hold 187,500 m3 of ore, which is roughly equivalent to a pre-Ascension Orca's total ore capacity across all holds.
  
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Additional functions that you can provide are:
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Ascension also added a 400% role bonus to Remote Shield Booster range, as well as the ORE Mining Director Mindlink, which boosts both Mining Foreman Bursts and Shield Command Bursts. These additions allow an Orca to better defend its fleet in the event of either unexpectedly powerful [[belt rat]]s or hostile pilots.
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*Repair ships with drones as needed
 
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*Store a wide variety of spare mining crystals
 
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*Store combat ships in the hangar, should the op be working in a lower sec area with tougher rats.
 
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*Use a survey scanner to find and mark the biggest asteroids in the belt, so that people can focus on the most profitable rocks first.
 
  
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===Hauling===
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As noted above, the bonus to Tractor Beam range makes the Orca adept at pulling in jetcans or wrecks to a central location, rather than having haulers slowboating around belts to scoop them up themselves. Or even worse, requiring mining ships to haul their own ore back to station. Instead, the Orca can serve as the single warp-in point for the mining fleet's haulers. Another advantage of the huge range on the beam is that the orca can pull in cans when a can flipper is in the system. Don't forget that if the Hulks / miners remain within 2500m of the Orca then miners can drop the ore directly into the fleet hangar completely removing the risk of theft.
  
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The Orca is a wonderful shipping hauler - the capacity of the Cargo Hold, with sufficient skills and rigs, gives the Orca one of the largest shipping spaces in the game, exceeded only by freighters.  For more information about how to use the Orca to earn ISK as a speculative hauler, see this class syllabus: [[Hauling 101]]
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When combined with its large drone bay and range bonus to Remote Shield Boosters, the Orca's drone damage bonus allows it to defend a mining fleet from most belt rats almost single-handedly. Further, an Orca can bring a flight of salvage drones and forgo fitting a Salvager module, freeing up a high slot.
  
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===Wormhole Support===
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Additional functions that Orcas can provide:
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* Repair ships with drones as needed
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* Store a wide variety of spare mining crystals
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* Store combat ships in the hangar, should the op be working in a lower sec area with tougher rats.
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* Use a survey scanner to find and mark the biggest asteroids in the belt, so that people can focus on the most profitable rocks first.
  
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Flying your expensive ship into a wormhole, assuming you’ve got one that can support the mass of the ship, requires serious nerve, but it can provide you with a mobile platform for refitting, swapping ships, storing loot, and repairing. Many corps set up POSs for this sort of thing, but the orca doesn’t require all the logistics that keeping a POS fueled and online would. Plus, in the Uni, the chances of you having the proper permissions to set up a POS are slim to none.
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=== Hauling ===
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{{main|Hauling}}
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The Orca is an excellent shipping hauler. With sufficient skills and rigs, the combined capacity of its holds can be increased to the point that an Orca is capable of having one of the largest capacities in the game, exceeded only by freighters. This is especially apparent when transporting ore. Further, the Orca's large number of mid slots allows it to fit one of the most effective tanks among hauling ships.
  
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Fit remote reppers / repper drones, and a cloak.  Stay cloaked and aligned in a safespot until needed.  Uncloaking should only be done when there are no ships in the system outside of your fleet.
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=== Wormhole Support ===
  
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===Missioning===
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In wormholes, an Orca can provide a group with a mobile platform for refitting, swapping ships, storing loot, and repairing. Many corps set up [[POS]]es or [[Citadels]] to serve these functions, but the Orca does not require the logistics that keeping a POS or Citadel fueled and online would.
  
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Running two accounts in missions, one of which is flying an Orca, can be helpful.  In combat missions, you can provide non-mining link bonuses to your other character, and tractor the wrecks to a central point while the other character fights. Clear the room, and then head back to the orca to get your salvage ship, or refit your combat ship right in space. Since all the wrecks are already together, you can fit 8 salvagers instead of the usual 4 salvagers + 4 tractor beam configuration, and quickly salvage everything.
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When fitting an Orca for wormhole use, fit Remote Shield Boosters or bring maintenance drones, and fit a cloaking device. Stay cloaked and aligned in a safespot until needed. Uncloaking should only be done when there are no ships in the system outside of your fleet.
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For mining missions, the benefits are obvious.  You can semi-afk your way through the mission and never be in danger of your can expiring.
 
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Occasionally you may get a courier mission that requires a huge amount of storage for hauling, particularly some of the storyline courier missions.  Instead of needing a freighter, or making multiple trips, the orca can fit the bill.
 
  
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===Less Reputable Uses===
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=== Missioning ===
  
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Suicide gankers, canflippers and ninja-looters can use Orcas as mobile bases. They can hold all the loot that they’ve gotten through suicide ganking or other means, and they can provide a nearby platform for switching and refitting ships when needed - even during combat, and often as a bait-and-switch tactic. Outlaws, meanwhile, can enter highsec in a pod to avoid NPC aggro and just pull a ship out of an Orca's bay. If you’re in an industrial ship and you see an Orca with a bunch of non-mining ships, be on your toes. Canflippers and ninja-looters with Orca support are to be especially avoided.
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Running two accounts in missions, one of which is flying an Orca, can be helpful. In combat missions, you can provide non-mining command burst bonuses to your other character, and tractor the wrecks to a central point while the other character fights. Clear the room, and then head back to the orca to get your salvage ship, or refit your combat ship right in space. Since all the wrecks are already together, you can fit 8 salvagers instead of the usual 4 salvagers + 4 tractor beam configuration, and quickly salvage everything.
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For mining missions, the benefits are obvious. You can semi-afk your way through the mission and never be in danger of your can expiring.
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Occasionally you may get a courier mission that requires a huge amount of storage for hauling, particularly some of the storyline courier missions. Instead of needing a freighter, or making multiple trips, the orca can fit the bill.
  
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==Maximum boost skills==
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=== Pirating ===
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(In no particular order)
 
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*{{sk|Mining Director|V|mult=yes}} -  Boosts the effectiveness of mining foreman link modules by 20% per skill level.
 
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*{{sk|Industrial Command Ships|V|mult=yes}} - 5% bonus to cargo capacity per level and 3% bonus to effectiveness of mining foreman links per level
 
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*{{sk|Cybernetics|V|mult=yes}} for the Mining Foreman Mindlink - 25% increase to the command bonus of Mining Foreman Link modules. Replaces Mining Foreman skill bonus with fixed 15% mining yield bonus.
 
  
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When looking at time to train vs. benefits received, Industrial Command Ships (ICS) V can be saved for last, behind Warfare Link Specialist (WLS) V. Depending on mapping and implants, ICS-V requires more than 30 days to train from ICS-IV and amounts to only 3% bonus to effectiveness of mining foreman links. WLS-V requires more than 20 days to train from WLS-IV and grants a 10% bonus to link effectiveness.
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Suicide gankers, canflippers and ninja-looters can use Orcas as mobile bases. They can hold all the loot that they’ve gotten through suicide ganking or other means, and they can provide a nearby platform for switching and refitting ships when needed - even during combat, and often as a bait-and-switch tactic. Outlaws, meanwhile, can enter highsec in a pod to avoid NPC aggro and pull a ship out of an Orca's bay when needed.
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== Maximum boost skills ==
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* {{sk|Mining Foreman|V|mult=yes}} - Increases duration of Mining Foreman Burst effects by 10% per skill level.
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** {{sk|Mining Director|V|mult=yes}} - Boosts the strength of Mining Foreman Burst effects by 10% per skill level. Required for Mining Foreman Mindlink and ORE Mining Director Mindlink.
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* {{sk|Shield Command|V|mult=yes}} - Increases duration of Shield Command Burst effects by 10% per skill level.
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** {{sk|Shield Command Specialist|V|mult=yes}} - Boosts the strength of Shield Command Burst effects by 10% per skill level. Required for ORE Mining Director Mindlink.
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* {{sk|Industrial Command Ships|V|mult=yes}} - 5% bonus per level to cargohold and ore hold capacity; 3% bonus per level to strength and duration of Mining Foreman Bursts; 1% bonus per level to strength and duration of Shield Command Bursts
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* {{sk|Cybernetics|V|mult=yes}} for the Mining Foreman and ORE Mining Director Mindlinks - 25% increase to the strength and duration of Mining Foreman Bursts (and Shield Command Bursts with the ORE Mining Director Mindlink).
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When looking at time to train vs. benefits received, {{sk|Industrial Command Ships|V}} can be saved for last. Depending on mapping and implants, {{sk|Industrial Command Ships}} requires more than 30 days to train from level IV to level V and provides the smallest bonus to the Orca's capabilities.
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Additionally, levels in {{sk|Leadership}}, {{sk|Wing Command}}, and {{sk|Fleet Command}} can be helpful depending on the size of the mining fleet and belts.
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== See also ==
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* [[Creating an Alt Orca Pilot]]
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* [[Creating an Alt Miner]]
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* [[Mining]]
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* [[Orca]]
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* [[Archive:Averon Mining Campus]]
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* [[Archive:Mining fleets]]
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== References ==
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Additionally, at least 1 level of {{sk|Wing Command}} can be helpful, depending on the size of the mining fleet.
 
  
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==See also==
 
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*[[Creating an Alt Orca Pilot]]
 
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*[[Creating an Alt Miner]]
 
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*[[Mining]]
 
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*[[Mining 101]]
 
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*[[Mining 102]]
 
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*[[Orca]]
 
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*[[Amarr Mining Campus]]
 
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*[[Mining Op]]
 
 
{{Mining Links}}
 
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The incredible Orca
This article details the use of the Orca. For ship stats and other mechanical information, see Orca.

The Orca is a mining support ship, classified as an Industrial Command Ship. The Industrial Command Ships (8x, 55M ISK) skill is required to fly it. Note that even though it is listed under "Capital Industrial Ships" in the EVE market, it does not require the Capital Industrial Ships skill.

Skill requirements

Traits and utility

Cargo space

Possibly the biggest selling point of the Orca is the huge amount of cargo space that it supports for a ship that “only” costs around 1.8 billion ISK. The ship has 4 different areas for storage:

  • Cargohold: The Orca's base cargohold is 30,000 m3, which can be expanded through modules and rigs. The cargohold also receives an additional 5% bonus to size for each level of Icon skillbook2.png Industrial Command Ships. Maxed out for hauling, an Orca can fit over 90,000 m³ in its cargo hold. This is the only hold on the ship that receives bonuses from modules and rigs.
  • Mining Hold: As its name suggests, the mining hold can contain only mined materials (unrefined ore, ice and gas). Attempting to move modules or anything else into the mining hold will result in an error message. The mining hold receives a 5% bonus to size for each level of Icon skillbook2.png Industrial Command Ships. added to its base 150,000 m³.
  • Fleet Hangar: The fleet hangar holds 40,000 m³ and can be made available to other fleet members or members of the pilot's corporation for access in space. This is very useful for supporting mining operations, as mining fleetmates can then use the fleet hangar to store mined ore or ice. The Orca pilot can then move that ore or ice to the mining hold or cargohold, or leave it in the fleet hangar, as space permits.
  • Ship Maintenance Bay: This bay holds 400,000 m³, and can only contain assembled ships. Ship in a fleet hangar can only contain ammunition and charges; attempting to load assembled ships with other items in their cargoholds (such as ore or modules) will result in an error message. For an idea of what can or can't fit in this bay, here are the sizes of some common ships when assembled:

To allow access to the ship maintenance bay, the Orca pilot must set access for fleet members or corporation members or both. If a fleet member wants to switch ships in space, they can open the ship maintenance bay, right click the ship they want to use, and choose either “Board Ship from Bay” or “Launch Ship from Bay.” The "Board" option is safer – it stores the pilot's current ship in the bay, and puts them into the new one in space. It’s only available if there is enough room in the bay to store the new ship minus the old ship. Otherwise, pilots must choose the Launch option, which leaves their current ship abandoned in space, and puts them into the new one. As with any abandoned ship, this could potentially enable theft.

Fitting service

Besides being able to swap ships, the Orca has a fitting service, so pilots can refit their ships while in space. To access this function, right click on the Orca while within 2500m to choose to "Use Fitting Service". Pilots can swap fittings that are in the cargohold of their own ship, or they can pull fittings out of the Orca’s bays. Drones can also be swapped in and out of a ship's drone bay.

Tractor Beam bonuses

The Orca receives two large role bonuses to Tractor Beams: a 250% bonus to range, and a 100% bonus to beam velocity. Both bonuses are helpful, but since most pilots usually only fit one Tractor Beam at most, the range increase is the most noticeable of the two. Orcas equipped with Tractor Beams can serve as storage for a fleet's ore, or the Orca pilot can leave the jetcans in space for other hauler ships to pick up in a central location. Orcas can also combine Tractor Beams with Salvagers to loot and salvage the wrecks of any belt rats that may spawn.

Survey Scanner bonus

Survey scanners on an Orca receive a 500% role bonus to range, so Orca pilots are able to see how much ore is in every rock in over a 100km radius. This allows the Orca pilot to easily tag asteroids to mark those that are full or nearly empty, and better coordinate the miners.

Command Burst modules

The Orca is capable of boosting fleets by using Command Bursts in its high slots. By default, it can equip and use three Command Bursts simultaneously, and this can be expanded to five Command Bursts with the use of two Command Burst Processor Rigs (150 calibration each). For most mining operations, Orca pilots will want to bring all three Mining Foreman Command Burst charges, though some Orca pilots will forgo the Mining Equipment Preservation charge. Shield Command Bursts are not always necessary, particularly if the mining fleet is in higher-security space.

You can customize the burst being provided by a command burst module by changing the ammunition (the charge). The charges for the mining foreman command burst modules are:

Name Effects Base Bonus
Mining Laser Field Enhancement Increases range of mining lasers, strip miners, ice harvesters, gas harvesters, and survey scanners +40%
Mining Laser Optimization Reduces cycle time and capacitor use of mining lasers, strip miners, ice harvesters, and gas harvesters -15%
Mining Equipment Preservation Reduces volatility of mining crystals -15%

The Orca receives the following bonuses for each level trained in Icon skillbook2.png Industrial Command Ships:

3% bonus to Mining Foreman Burst effect strength and duration
1% bonus to Shield Command Burst effect strength and duration

Tank

Given the massive hull tank of the Orca, adding a Damage Control II (adds uniform 60% resists to structure HP) and a Reinforced Bulkhead II module (increases structure hit points) will give the Orca a formidable tank. Adding a 500MN Compact Microwarpdrive (for fitting purposes) and shield tank modules will allow an Orca to easily achieve 200k+ EHP, with the additional ability to align in 10 seconds (one cycle of the MWD). With Transverse Bulkhead rigs (increases structure but lower cargo hold capacity) the tank can be pushed well above 400k ehp. If more tank is unnecessary or unwanted, Hyperspatial Velocity rigs (higher warp speed but lower CPU capacity) or Cargohold Optimization rigs (increases cargo hold but reduces armor) can also be useful.

Using an Orca

Mining Ops

With the November 2016 Ascension update the Orca saw a drastic change in its ability to contribute to a mining op. Off-grid boosts were eliminated in favor of the new Command Burst system, and the Orca was given drastically increased mining and defensive capabilities.

Post-Ascension, the Orca has the following mining bonuses:

  • 10% bonus to drone hitpoints, damage and mining yield per level of Industrial Command Ships
  • 100% role bonus to drone mining yield
  • 25% reduction in ice harvesting drone cycle time

According to the dev blog describing the changes[1] to the Orca: "With both skill and role bonuses to mining drone yield, the Orca can pull in similar ore volumes to an Exhumer."

Post-Ascension, the Orca's ability to store and haul ore has been greatly increased. With Icon skillbook2.png Industrial Command Ships V, the Orca's ore hold alone can hold 187,500 m3 of ore, which is roughly equivalent to a pre-Ascension Orca's total ore capacity across all holds.

Ascension also added a 400% role bonus to Remote Shield Booster range, as well as the ORE Mining Director Mindlink, which boosts both Mining Foreman Bursts and Shield Command Bursts. These additions allow an Orca to better defend its fleet in the event of either unexpectedly powerful belt rats or hostile pilots.

As noted above, the bonus to Tractor Beam range makes the Orca adept at pulling in jetcans or wrecks to a central location, rather than having haulers slowboating around belts to scoop them up themselves. Or even worse, requiring mining ships to haul their own ore back to station. Instead, the Orca can serve as the single warp-in point for the mining fleet's haulers. Another advantage of the huge range on the beam is that the orca can pull in cans when a can flipper is in the system. Don't forget that if the Hulks / miners remain within 2500m of the Orca then miners can drop the ore directly into the fleet hangar completely removing the risk of theft.

When combined with its large drone bay and range bonus to Remote Shield Boosters, the Orca's drone damage bonus allows it to defend a mining fleet from most belt rats almost single-handedly. Further, an Orca can bring a flight of salvage drones and forgo fitting a Salvager module, freeing up a high slot.

Additional functions that Orcas can provide:

  • Repair ships with drones as needed
  • Store a wide variety of spare mining crystals
  • Store combat ships in the hangar, should the op be working in a lower sec area with tougher rats.
  • Use a survey scanner to find and mark the biggest asteroids in the belt, so that people can focus on the most profitable rocks first.

Hauling

Main article: Hauling

The Orca is an excellent shipping hauler. With sufficient skills and rigs, the combined capacity of its holds can be increased to the point that an Orca is capable of having one of the largest capacities in the game, exceeded only by freighters. This is especially apparent when transporting ore. Further, the Orca's large number of mid slots allows it to fit one of the most effective tanks among hauling ships.

Wormhole Support

In wormholes, an Orca can provide a group with a mobile platform for refitting, swapping ships, storing loot, and repairing. Many corps set up POSes or Citadels to serve these functions, but the Orca does not require the logistics that keeping a POS or Citadel fueled and online would.

When fitting an Orca for wormhole use, fit Remote Shield Boosters or bring maintenance drones, and fit a cloaking device. Stay cloaked and aligned in a safespot until needed. Uncloaking should only be done when there are no ships in the system outside of your fleet.

Missioning

Running two accounts in missions, one of which is flying an Orca, can be helpful. In combat missions, you can provide non-mining command burst bonuses to your other character, and tractor the wrecks to a central point while the other character fights. Clear the room, and then head back to the orca to get your salvage ship, or refit your combat ship right in space. Since all the wrecks are already together, you can fit 8 salvagers instead of the usual 4 salvagers + 4 tractor beam configuration, and quickly salvage everything. For mining missions, the benefits are obvious. You can semi-afk your way through the mission and never be in danger of your can expiring. Occasionally you may get a courier mission that requires a huge amount of storage for hauling, particularly some of the storyline courier missions. Instead of needing a freighter, or making multiple trips, the orca can fit the bill.

Pirating

Suicide gankers, canflippers and ninja-looters can use Orcas as mobile bases. They can hold all the loot that they’ve gotten through suicide ganking or other means, and they can provide a nearby platform for switching and refitting ships when needed - even during combat, and often as a bait-and-switch tactic. Outlaws, meanwhile, can enter highsec in a pod to avoid NPC aggro and pull a ship out of an Orca's bay when needed.

Maximum boost skills

  • Mining Foreman V (2x) - Increases duration of Mining Foreman Burst effects by 10% per skill level.
    • Mining Director V (5x) - Boosts the strength of Mining Foreman Burst effects by 10% per skill level. Required for Mining Foreman Mindlink and ORE Mining Director Mindlink.
  • Shield Command V (2x) - Increases duration of Shield Command Burst effects by 10% per skill level.
    • Shield Command Specialist V (5x) - Boosts the strength of Shield Command Burst effects by 10% per skill level. Required for ORE Mining Director Mindlink.
  • Industrial Command Ships V (8x) - 5% bonus per level to cargohold and ore hold capacity; 3% bonus per level to strength and duration of Mining Foreman Bursts; 1% bonus per level to strength and duration of Shield Command Bursts
  • Cybernetics V (3x) for the Mining Foreman and ORE Mining Director Mindlinks - 25% increase to the strength and duration of Mining Foreman Bursts (and Shield Command Bursts with the ORE Mining Director Mindlink).

When looking at time to train vs. benefits received, Industrial Command Ships V can be saved for last. Depending on mapping and implants, Industrial Command Ships requires more than 30 days to train from level IV to level V and provides the smallest bonus to the Orca's capabilities.

Additionally, levels in Leadership, Wing Command, and Fleet Command can be helpful depending on the size of the mining fleet and belts.

See also

References

  1. ^ Community Dev Blog: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/mining-foreman-revolution/#ORCA


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