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This is a guide to train an alt from newly created to being able to sit in an [[Orca]]. An Orca pilot alt has a variety of use-cases, but the two examples that this skill plan emphasizes are hauling [[Incursions]] pirate battleships from focus to focus and suitcasing belongings in a [[wormhole]]. The skill plan for training the alt into an Orca requires only one [[Multiple Character Training]] license. Additionally, there are skills for either moving the pirate battleships or suitcasing wormhole goods. This plan is ''not'' intended for use as a mining booster.
  
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Those who only need to ferry battleships, and not smaller ships or a lot of gear, would probably be better off with a [[Preparing_for_Incursions#Valet_alt|valet alt]].  
This plan gives the player an out-of-corporation (OOC) alt character that can move their hull and gear safe from war target (WT) aggression, while only costing one PLEX for 30 days of dual account training. The plan does this in two ways. First, it trains up an alt that can fly a [[Orca]] with solid tank and the [[Cloak Trick]] (AKA MWD+Cloak Trick) to ferry smaller ships and equipment. Then, it trains the alt to also be able to ferry the pirate battleship of the player's choice between incursion sites.
 
  
Those who only need to ferry battleships, and not smaller ships or a lot of gear, would probably be better off with a [[Preparing_for_Incursions#Valet_alt|valet alt]].
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A suitcase is a ship that holds a bulk of items and ships in the event of relocating to a new wormhole system or a wormhole [[eviction]]. An Orca has a base capacity of 40k m3 in the fleet hangar (fittings, packaged ships), 400k m3 in the Ship Maintenance Bay (fitted ships), 150k m3 in the mining cargo hold (ore and gas), and 30k m3 in the cargo hold. While a freighter can hold more items than an Orca, the Orca is uniquely good for suitcasing because it can fit through large wormholes typical of C2 and C3 wormhole systems whereas a freighter is dependent on having an extra large connection to k-space to get it out.
  
== Orca Fit ==
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== Skill plan ==
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This plan has two main parts, the support skills and the ship skills. It uses the yearly re-map for the ship skills, but no re-map on the support skills. The base skill plan outlined below only requires one [[Neural Remap|remap]] to Willpower-Charisma-Perception for the leadership skills. If you are training your Orca pilot alt to ferry Incursions battleships, you'll want to add those battleship skills at the end of your skill plan. If you are training your Orca pilot alt to to suitcase, you'll want to add those support skills to the other support skills ''before'' remapping for leadership skills.
  
{{ShipFitting
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{{ note box | Notes:
| ship=Orca
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* If your alt is Amarr, Gallente or Minmatar you will already have Hull Upgrades III and Mechanics III as starting skills
| shipTypeID=28606
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* This plan covers Tank skills, Navigation & Cap skills, Misc, Leaderships skills and Orca ship skills below.
| fitName=Basic
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| italics= no }}
| fitID=Basic
 
| mid1name=500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
 
| mid1typeID=5945
 
| mid2name=Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
 
| mid2typeID=2281
 
| mid3name=Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
 
| mid3typeID=2281
 
| mid4name=EM Shield Hardener II
 
| mid4typeID=2301
 
| low1name=Damage Control II
 
| low1typeID=2048
 
| low2name=Reinforced Bulkheads II
 
| low2typeID=1335
 
| rig1name=Large Ancillary Current Router I
 
| rig1typeID=25956
 
| high1name=open
 
| high2name=open
 
| high3name=open
 
| rig2name=open
 
| rig3name=open
 
| charge1name=open
 
| charge2name=open
 
| charge3name=open
 
| charge4name=open
 
| charge5name=open
 
| drone1name=open
 
| drone2name=open
 
| drone3name=open
 
| drone4name=open
 
| drone5name=open
 
| skills=
 
| showSKILLS=N
 
| notes=A third Multispectrum Shield Hardener will grant better EHP than the EM variant</li><li>Two Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II rigs will bring the warp speed to just over 3 AU/s</li><li>The Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Warp Drive Speed WS-608 implant is inexpensive and will further increase warp speed by 8% to about 3.3 AU/s.
 
| showNOTES=N
 
| difficulty=0
 
| warsop=A
 
| warsopReason=
 
| version=KRON 1.0
 
| showTOC=Y
 
| shipDNA=28606:5945;1:2281;1:2301;1:2048;1:1335;1:25956;1::
 
}}{{ShipFitting
 
| ship=Orca
 
| shipTypeID=28606
 
| fitName=Travel
 
| fitID=Travel
 
| high1name=Improved Cloaking Device II
 
| high1typeID=11577
 
| mid1name=500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
 
| mid1typeID=5945
 
| mid2name=Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
 
| mid2typeID=2281
 
| mid3name=Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
 
| mid3typeID=2281
 
| mid4name=Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
 
| mid4typeID=2281
 
| low1name=Damage Control II
 
| low1typeID=2048
 
| low2name=Reinforced Bulkheads II
 
| low2typeID=1335
 
| rig1name=Large Ancillary Current Router I
 
| rig1typeID=25956
 
| rig2name=Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
 
| rig2typeID=26322
 
| rig3name=Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
 
| rig3typeID=26322
 
| high2name=open
 
| high3name=open
 
| charge1name=open
 
| charge2name=open
 
| charge3name=open
 
| charge4name=open
 
| charge5name=open
 
| drone1name=open
 
| drone2name=open
 
| drone3name=open
 
| drone4name=open
 
| drone5name=open
 
| skills=
 
| showSKILLS=N
 
| notes=The Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II rigs can be replaced by Large Transverse Bulkhead II rigs to add additional tank at the expense of cargo capacity.</li><li>The Improved Cloaking Device II is optional, but can occasionally be helpful.</li><li>The Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Warp Drive Speed WS-608 implant is inexpensive and will further increase warp speed by 8% to about 3.3 AU/s.
 
| showNOTES=N
 
| difficulty=0
 
| warsop=A
 
| warsopReason=
 
| version=KRON 1.0
 
| showTOC=Y
 
| shipDNA=28606:11577;1:5945;1:2281;3:2048;1:1335;1:25956;1:26322;2::
 
}}
 
 
 
This plan has two main parts, the support skills and the ship skills. It uses the yearly re-map for the ship skills, but no re-map on the support skills. If a pilot really wanted to squeeze a few more things in I would use all three re-maps. First Int-Mem for supports. Then Cha-Wis for the leadership skills. Finally Per-Wis for the ship skills. This will give the player a few extra days to add in some other useful things mentioned at the end.
 
 
 
== Skill Plan ==
 
  
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== Phase 1: Support skills ==
 
{{SkillQueue
 
{{SkillQueue
|name=Orca Plan
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|name=Orca support skills
|width=400px
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|desc=No remap for this part, add option 2 to this list for suitcasing
|desc=Make sure you read the notes below
 
 
|Tactical Shield Manipulation II
 
|Tactical Shield Manipulation II
 
Tactical Shield Manipulation III
 
Tactical Shield Manipulation III
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Shield Upgrades II
 
Shield Upgrades II
 
Energy Grid Upgrades II
 
Energy Grid Upgrades II
Leadership I
 
Mining Foreman I
 
Mining Foreman II
 
Mining Foreman III
 
Mining Foreman IV
 
Mining Foreman V
 
Mining Director I
 
Spaceship Command IV
 
Spaceship Command V
 
ORE Hauler I
 
ORE Hauler II
 
ORE Hauler III
 
Industrial Command Ships I
 
 
}}
 
}}
 
 
{{ note box | Notes:
 
 
*If your alt is Amarr, Gallente or Minmatar you will already have Hull Upgrades III and Mechanics III as starting skills
 
*This plan covers Tank skills, Navigation & Cap skills, Misc, Leaderships skills and Orca ship skills below | italics = no }}
 
 
== Support Skills ==
 
  
 
=== Cybernetics ===
 
=== Cybernetics ===
 
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All new characters start with {{Sk|Cybernetics|I}} which enables you to use implants. Plug in +3 implants of all types at the start. The skill plan cannot be completed within 30 days without the +3 implants.
All new characters start with Cybernetics I, which enables you to use implants. Plug in +3 implants of all types at the start, as this plan does not work without them.
 
  
 
=== Tank skills ===
 
=== Tank skills ===
 
 
The Orca hull tanks with a secondary shield tank. Hence Hull Upgrades IV and Mechanics are key for a proper Orca tank.
 
The Orca hull tanks with a secondary shield tank. Hence Hull Upgrades IV and Mechanics are key for a proper Orca tank.
  
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* {{Sk|Mechanics|III|mult=yes}} (3 hours, 10 minutes)
 
* {{Sk|Mechanics|III|mult=yes}} (3 hours, 10 minutes)
  
=== Navigation Skills & Cap Skills ===
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=== Navigation skills & Cap skills ===
 
 
 
An Orca really needs an MWD to reduce its align time from 30+ seconds to 10 flat. This requires being able to fit the MWD and have sufficient cap skills so a pilot doesn't cap out after a few jumps of MWD assisted aligns. With the skills in this plan the pilot should be able to use the MWD & DC for every warp. The Active Shield modules can't be constantly run due to cap issues, but can be used in emergencies to buy extra time for CONCORD to arrive. Adding Navigation or Evasive Maneuvers would be a bit beneficial though do not add anything new to the plan, just allow it to do things better.
 
An Orca really needs an MWD to reduce its align time from 30+ seconds to 10 flat. This requires being able to fit the MWD and have sufficient cap skills so a pilot doesn't cap out after a few jumps of MWD assisted aligns. With the skills in this plan the pilot should be able to use the MWD & DC for every warp. The Active Shield modules can't be constantly run due to cap issues, but can be used in emergencies to buy extra time for CONCORD to arrive. Adding Navigation or Evasive Maneuvers would be a bit beneficial though do not add anything new to the plan, just allow it to do things better.
  
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=== Misc. ===
 
=== Misc. ===
 
These skills are useful to tank up a pirate BS for transport but are not really critical for the plan as a whole. Also they only allow the use of the T1 versions of the LSE and PDS, these skills would need to be raised to IV to enable the T2 versions, which is one way to expand this plan.
 
 
 
* {{Sk|Shield Upgrades|II|mult=yes}} (1 hour, 22 minutes)
 
* {{Sk|Shield Upgrades|II|mult=yes}} (1 hour, 22 minutes)
 
* {{Sk|Energy Grid Upgrades|II|mult=yes}} (1 hour, 22 minutes)
 
* {{Sk|Energy Grid Upgrades|II|mult=yes}} (1 hour, 22 minutes)
  
== Ship & Leadership Skills ==
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== Phase 2: Leadership and ship skills ==
 
 
 
'''Remapping (active) : i17 p19 c19 w27 m17'''
 
'''Remapping (active) : i17 p19 c19 w27 m17'''
  
This is where to use the remap in the plan if you are only going to use one.
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This is where to use the remap in the plan.
  
=== Leadership Skills ===
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=Leadership & ship skills
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|desc=Remap before adding these skills, add option 1 to this list for Incursions ferrying
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|Leadership I
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Mining Foreman I
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Mining Foreman II
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Mining Foreman III
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Mining Foreman IV
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Mining Foreman V
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Mining Director I
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Spaceship Command IV
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Spaceship Command V
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ORE Hauler I
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ORE Hauler II
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ORE Hauler III
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Industrial Command Ships I}}
  
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=== Leadership skills ===
 
The Orca Requires the following leadership skills to be injected. This is where most of the training for the Orca comes from.
 
The Orca Requires the following leadership skills to be injected. This is where most of the training for the Orca comes from.
  
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* {{Sk|Mining Director|I|mult=yes}} (33 minutes, 47 seconds)
 
* {{Sk|Mining Director|I|mult=yes}} (33 minutes, 47 seconds)
  
=== Orca Ship Skills ===
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=== Orca ship skills ===
 
 
 
* {{Sk|Spaceship Command|V|mult=yes}} (4 days, 15 hours, 32 minutes)
 
* {{Sk|Spaceship Command|V|mult=yes}} (4 days, 15 hours, 32 minutes)
 
* {{Sk|ORE Hauler|III|mult=yes}} (14 hours, 24 minutes)
 
* {{Sk|ORE Hauler|III|mult=yes}} (14 hours, 24 minutes)
 
* {{Sk|Industrial Command Ships|I|mult=yes}} (54 minute, 3 seconds)
 
* {{Sk|Industrial Command Ships|I|mult=yes}} (54 minute, 3 seconds)
  
=== Pirate Battleship Skills ===
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== Phase 3, option 1: Pirate battleship skills ==
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For this section the pilot needs to train the two racial ship skills needed for the pirate battleship of their choice.
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=Gallente/Minmtar - Pirate battleship skills
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|desc=Make sure you read the notes below
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|Gallente Frigate I
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Gallente Frigate II
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Gallente Frigate III
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Gallente Destroyer I
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Gallente Destroyer II
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Gallente Destroyer III
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Gallente Cruiser I
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Gallente Cruiser II
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Gallente Cruiser III
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Gallente Battlecruiser I
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Gallente Battlecruiser II
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Gallente Battlecruiser III
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Gallente Battleship I
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Minmatar Frigate I
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Minmatar Frigate II
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Minmatar Frigate III
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Minmatar Destroyer I
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Minmatar Destroyer II
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Minmatar Destroyer III
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Minmatar Cruiser I
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Minmatar Cruiser II
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Minmatar Cruiser III
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Minmatar Battlecruiser I
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Minmatar Battlecruiser II
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Minmatar Battlecruiser III
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Minmatar Battleship I}}
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{{ note box | Notes:
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* For the sake of this example, we're using Gallente and Minmatar (for the [[Vindicator]] and [[Machariel]]), but for the [[Nightmare]], you will want to replace these with the Caldari and Amarr skills.
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| italics= no }}
  
For this section the pilot needs to train the two racial ship skills needed for the pirate BS of their choice. For the sake of this example, we're using Gallente and Minmatar (for the [[Vindicator]] and [[Machariel]]), but for the [[Nightmare]], you will want to replace these with the Caldari and Amarr skills.
 
  
 
* {{sk|Gallente Frigate|III|mult=yes}} (7 hours, 12 minutes)
 
* {{sk|Gallente Frigate|III|mult=yes}} (7 hours, 12 minutes)
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* {{sk|Minmatar Battleship|I|mult=yes}} (54 minutes, 3 seconds)
 
* {{sk|Minmatar Battleship|I|mult=yes}} (54 minutes, 3 seconds)
  
With the +3 implants this finishes the training in just under 29 days. Without +3 implants this train is over 33 days.
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With the +3 implants, this finishes the training in just under 29 days. Without +3 implants, this train is over 33 days.
  
Some other things to add:
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== Phase 3: option 2: Suitcase ==
* {{Sk|Thermodynamics}} to overheat hardeners
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These skills will help provide better tank and utility needed to safely get goods to k-space or a new wormhole system.
* {{Sk|Hacking}} to make this a scout/hacker
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* The other two race's Battleships (very hard to do, might need all 3 re-maps)
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{{SkillQueue
* {{Sk|Cloaking|III}} so the alt can do the MWD+Cloak trick with the pirate BS (impossible to do with an Orca).
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|name=Suitcase support skills
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|desc=Add to support skills
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|Shield Upgrades IV
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Mechanics IV
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Cloaking I
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Cloaking II
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Cloaking III
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Astrometrics IV}}
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* {{Sk|Shield Upgrades|IV|mult=yes}} (7 days, 18 hours, 21 minutes, 28 seconds)
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* {{Sk|Mechanics|IV|mult=yes}} (17 hours, 59 minutes, 51 seconds)
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* {{Sk|Cloaking|III|mult=yes}} (23 hours, 10 minutes, 56 seconds)
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* {{Sk|Astrometrics|IV|mult=yes}} (2 days, 5 hours, 59 minutes, 39 seconds)
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With +3 implants, this plan will finish in under 28 days. Without the implants, the plan will take nearly 33 days.
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== Orca fits ==
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{{ShipFitting
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| ship=Orca
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| fitName=Incursion Hauler
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| fitID=
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| high1name=open
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| high2name=open
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| high3name=open
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| high4name=open
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| high5name=open
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| high6name=open
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| mid1name=500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
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| mid1typeID=5945
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| mid2name=Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
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| mid2typeID=2281
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| mid3name=Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
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| mid3typeID=2281
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| mid4name=EM Shield Hardener II
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| mid4typeID=2301
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| mid5name=Thermal Shield Hardener II
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| mid5typeID=2303
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| low1name=Damage Control II
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| low1typeID=2048
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| low2name=Reinforced Bulkheads II
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| low2typeID=1335
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| rig1name=Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
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| rig1typeID=26322
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| rig2name=Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
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| rig2typeID=26322
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| rig3name=Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
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| rig3typeID=26322
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| skills=
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| showSKILLS=N
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| notes=The Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II rigs can be replaced by Large Transverse Bulkhead II rigs to add additional tank at the expense of cargo capacity.
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| showNOTES=N
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| difficulty=0
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| version=2023.12.23
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| showTOC=N
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| alphacanuse=N
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}}{{ShipFitting
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| ship=Orca
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| fitName=Suitcase
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| fitID=
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| high1name=Improved Cloaking Device II
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| high1typeID=11577
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| high2name=Core Probe Launcher I
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| high2typeID=17938
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| high3name=open
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| high4name=open
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| high5name=open
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| high6name=open
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| mid1name=500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
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| mid1typeID=35661
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| mid2name=Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
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| mid2typeID=2281
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| mid3name=Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
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| mid3typeID=2281
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| mid4name=Large Shield Extender II
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| mid4typeID=3841
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| mid5name=Large Shield Extender II
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| mid5typeID=3841
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| low1name=Damage Control II
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| low1typeID=2048
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| low2name=Reinforced Bulkheads II
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| low2typeID=1335
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| rig1name=Large EM Shield Reinforcer II
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| rig1typeID=26436
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| rig2name=Large Thermal Shield Reinforcer II
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| rig2typeID=26442
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| rig3name=Large Core Defense Field Extender II
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| rig3typeID=26448
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| charge1name=Sisters Core Scanner Probe x16
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| charge1typeID=30488
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| skills=
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| showSKILLS=N
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| notes=This fit requires {{Sk|Shield Upgrades|IV}} and {{Sk|Cloaking|III}}. The cloak is intended for warping to a safe and cloaking up for safety.<li>Shield tank rigs, damage control, and the reinforced bulkhead modules can be replace with cargo expanders in order to increase cargo capacity at the expense of survivability.</li>
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| showNOTES=N
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| difficulty=0
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| version=2023.12.23
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| showTOC=N
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| alphacanuse=N
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}}
  
 
[[Category:Hauling]]
 
[[Category:Hauling]]

Latest revision as of 09:33, 9 June 2024

Main article: Alternate characters

This is a guide to train an alt from newly created to being able to sit in an Orca. An Orca pilot alt has a variety of use-cases, but the two examples that this skill plan emphasizes are hauling Incursions pirate battleships from focus to focus and suitcasing belongings in a wormhole. The skill plan for training the alt into an Orca requires only one Multiple Character Training license. Additionally, there are skills for either moving the pirate battleships or suitcasing wormhole goods. This plan is not intended for use as a mining booster.

Those who only need to ferry battleships, and not smaller ships or a lot of gear, would probably be better off with a valet alt.

A suitcase is a ship that holds a bulk of items and ships in the event of relocating to a new wormhole system or a wormhole eviction. An Orca has a base capacity of 40k m3 in the fleet hangar (fittings, packaged ships), 400k m3 in the Ship Maintenance Bay (fitted ships), 150k m3 in the mining cargo hold (ore and gas), and 30k m3 in the cargo hold. While a freighter can hold more items than an Orca, the Orca is uniquely good for suitcasing because it can fit through large wormholes typical of C2 and C3 wormhole systems whereas a freighter is dependent on having an extra large connection to k-space to get it out.

Skill plan

This plan has two main parts, the support skills and the ship skills. It uses the yearly re-map for the ship skills, but no re-map on the support skills. The base skill plan outlined below only requires one remap to Willpower-Charisma-Perception for the leadership skills. If you are training your Orca pilot alt to ferry Incursions battleships, you'll want to add those battleship skills at the end of your skill plan. If you are training your Orca pilot alt to to suitcase, you'll want to add those support skills to the other support skills before remapping for leadership skills.

Notes:
  • If your alt is Amarr, Gallente or Minmatar you will already have Hull Upgrades III and Mechanics III as starting skills
  • This plan covers Tank skills, Navigation & Cap skills, Misc, Leaderships skills and Orca ship skills below.

Phase 1: Support skills

Orca support skills

No remap for this part, add option 2 to this list for suitcasing
Expand this box to view a Skill queue to use in-game

Tactical Shield Manipulation II
Tactical Shield Manipulation III
Tactical Shield Manipulation IV
Shield Management II
Shield Management III
Hull Upgrades III
Hull Upgrades IV
Mechanics III
High Speed Maneuvering II
High Speed Maneuvering III
Warp Drive Operation II
Warp Drive Operation III
Acceleration Control II
Acceleration Control III
Jury Rigging I
Shield Upgrades II
Energy Grid Upgrades II


Cybernetics

All new characters start with Cybernetics I which enables you to use implants. Plug in +3 implants of all types at the start. The skill plan cannot be completed within 30 days without the +3 implants.

Tank skills

The Orca hull tanks with a secondary shield tank. Hence Hull Upgrades IV and Mechanics are key for a proper Orca tank.

Navigation skills & Cap skills

An Orca really needs an MWD to reduce its align time from 30+ seconds to 10 flat. This requires being able to fit the MWD and have sufficient cap skills so a pilot doesn't cap out after a few jumps of MWD assisted aligns. With the skills in this plan the pilot should be able to use the MWD & DC for every warp. The Active Shield modules can't be constantly run due to cap issues, but can be used in emergencies to buy extra time for CONCORD to arrive. Adding Navigation or Evasive Maneuvers would be a bit beneficial though do not add anything new to the plan, just allow it to do things better.

Misc.

Phase 2: Leadership and ship skills

Remapping (active) : i17 p19 c19 w27 m17

This is where to use the remap in the plan.

Leadership & ship skills

Remap before adding these skills, add option 1 to this list for Incursions ferrying
Expand this box to view a Skill queue to use in-game

Leadership I
Mining Foreman I
Mining Foreman II
Mining Foreman III
Mining Foreman IV
Mining Foreman V
Mining Director I
Spaceship Command IV
Spaceship Command V
ORE Hauler I
ORE Hauler II
ORE Hauler III
Industrial Command Ships I


Leadership skills

The Orca Requires the following leadership skills to be injected. This is where most of the training for the Orca comes from.

Orca ship skills

Phase 3, option 1: Pirate battleship skills

For this section the pilot needs to train the two racial ship skills needed for the pirate battleship of their choice.

Gallente/Minmtar - Pirate battleship skills

Make sure you read the notes below
Expand this box to view a Skill queue to use in-game

Gallente Frigate I
Gallente Frigate II
Gallente Frigate III
Gallente Destroyer I
Gallente Destroyer II
Gallente Destroyer III
Gallente Cruiser I
Gallente Cruiser II
Gallente Cruiser III
Gallente Battlecruiser I
Gallente Battlecruiser II
Gallente Battlecruiser III
Gallente Battleship I
Minmatar Frigate I
Minmatar Frigate II
Minmatar Frigate III
Minmatar Destroyer I
Minmatar Destroyer II
Minmatar Destroyer III
Minmatar Cruiser I
Minmatar Cruiser II
Minmatar Cruiser III
Minmatar Battlecruiser I
Minmatar Battlecruiser II
Minmatar Battlecruiser III
Minmatar Battleship I


Notes:
  • For the sake of this example, we're using Gallente and Minmatar (for the Vindicator and Machariel), but for the Nightmare, you will want to replace these with the Caldari and Amarr skills.


With the +3 implants, this finishes the training in just under 29 days. Without +3 implants, this train is over 33 days.

Phase 3: option 2: Suitcase

These skills will help provide better tank and utility needed to safely get goods to k-space or a new wormhole system.

Suitcase support skills

Add to support skills
Expand this box to view a Skill queue to use in-game

Shield Upgrades IV
Mechanics IV
Cloaking I
Cloaking II
Cloaking III
Astrometrics IV


With +3 implants, this plan will finish in under 28 days. Without the implants, the plan will take nearly 33 days.

Orca fits

Orca: Incursion Hauler
EFT
[Orca, Incursion Hauler]

500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
EM Shield Hardener II
Thermal Shield Hardener II

Damage Control II
Reinforced Bulkheads II

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II



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FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
2023.12.23
ALPHA CAN USE
NO
EFT
SKILLS
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RECOMMENDED SKILLS
NOTES
  • The Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II rigs can be replaced by Large Transverse Bulkhead II rigs to add additional tank at the expense of cargo capacity.
Orca: Suitcase
EFT
[Orca, Suitcase]
Improved Cloaking Device II
Core Probe Launcher I

500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Damage Control II
Reinforced Bulkheads II

Large EM Shield Reinforcer II
Large Thermal Shield Reinforcer II
Large Core Defense Field Extender II



Sisters Core Scanner Probe x16

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FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
2023.12.23
ALPHA CAN USE
NO
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
RECOMMENDED SKILLS
NOTES
  • This fit requires Shield Upgrades IV and Cloaking III. The cloak is intended for warping to a safe and cloaking up for safety.
  • Shield tank rigs, damage control, and the reinforced bulkhead modules can be replace with cargo expanders in order to increase cargo capacity at the expense of survivability.