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If you are a member of EVE University and cannot train into T2 hauling ships because you are an Alpha clone, consider using the [[Hauling_Department|University Hauling Service]] to move your stuff around safely and the [[Buyback|University Buyback Program]] to sell goods for profit.
 
If you are a member of EVE University and cannot train into T2 hauling ships because you are an Alpha clone, consider using the [[Hauling_Department|University Hauling Service]] to move your stuff around safely and the [[Buyback|University Buyback Program]] to sell goods for profit.
 
== Weighing training time against how much you want to haul ==
 
The Bestower is the top hauler for general cargo. The Bestower carries less specific cargo than the modified haulers with special bays for ore, etc like the [[Kryos]] and [[Miasmos]]. The Bestower is also a good choice if you want to use the hauler with the highest possible general cargo capacity in the game.
 
 
Hauling safely is still a concern with all haulers. The 4 general purpose, large capacity haulers can only fit three meta 4 Medium shield extenders and end up with around 6,000 ehp +/- depending on the race. One recommendation is to only carry 3 to 5 million ISK in value per 1,000 of ehp. Another recommendation is the 50 million ISK maximum collateral for T1 industrial haulers used by eve hauling company MicroPush.<ref>[https://www.pushx.net/rates.php PushX Rates] (no endorsement intended)</ref> If you carry too much cargo value often enough, you will lose your ship.
 
 
(See also [[Hauling#Hauling craft|Hauling ships]])
 
  
 
== Preparing for training  ==
 
== Preparing for training  ==

Revision as of 06:07, 26 December 2023

Main article: Alternate characters

A hauler alt is character trained specifically for hauling. There are many reasons to create such an alt, but it primarily it stems from a need to move things to and from places on your own timetable.

This guide is designed to train an alt into Deep Space Transport and Blockade Runner in just under 96 days. This is sufficient for most personal hauler, but if needed you can train an alt into a Freighter, Bowhead, and Jump Freighter in under 217 days. The guide is segmented to allow you to pick and choose which ship types you wish to train your alt into based on your needs. Hauling is generally a skill that requires Omega and this guide assumes that your hauler alt is either on its own Omega account or that you are using Multiple Character Training.

You will want to use the appropriate skill plan for the empire faction you're training into: Armor-tanked Hauler for Gallente/Amarr and Shield-tanked Hauler for Minmatar/Caldari.

Why use a hauler alt?

Training into a hauler can be a long train, especially if training into Jump Freighters. Training one character to do hauling as well as a variety of other activities takes significantly longer and delays being able to either well. Specialization with multiple characters means that you can do both well when training into the desired skills is completed. Additionally, training a hauler alt on a separate account means that you can haul your cargo while doing something else as opposed to choosing between two activities. A hauler alt is also useful because they can be put in an player-owned alt corp such as the Hall of Residence without much concern for things like hisec wars. Without a hauler alt, hisec wars can mean losing cargo to war targets who camp trade hubs and have a proficiency in destroying anything that undocks from the main hub stations.

When hauling in with Jump Freighter, it becomes almost entirely necessary to have an alt that can haul while another alt lights an industrial cyno at a waypoint in order to allow the Jump Freighter to get where its going.

Why no T1 haulers?

T1 haulers fill a niche created by the fact that other ships simply cannot hold as much as haulers. If all you want to do is move a large amount of gas, ore, minerals, or planetary commodities from one station or structure within or to a nearby system, then you might consider training up the relevant faction's hauler to fly a specialized haulers. For example, at Gallente Hauler V the Miasmos can hold 63,000m3 which is almost as much as a Deep Space Transport's fleet hangar at max skills, but it has a paper tank that cannot hold up against any ganker. Moving anything valuable over longer distances, such as from Stacmon to Jita, puts your cargo at an unnecessary risk. Moving short distances in a T1 hauler in hisec is generally safe, but beyond that T2 haulers are necessary to prevent the loss of all your cargo.

If you are a member of EVE University and cannot train into T2 hauling ships because you are an Alpha clone, consider using the University Hauling Service to move your stuff around safely and the University Buyback Program to sell goods for profit.

Preparing for training

It is important to read about hauling as it will save you a lot of time and frustrations. Before you even create a character, there are many things to consider: The race of your character, whether you have other characters in the account and if you want to do a neural remap.

Racial characters

Following the Odyssey expansion, the choice of Race, bloodline and ancestry has no effect on the training time. Racial Frigate III is no longer a requirement for Racial Hauler I. A character of any race can train to Amarr Hauler III and get a Bestower. Then proceed to training Spaceship Command I-V and Advanced Spaceship Command I-V to get an Amarr Freighter. Or with less than 18 hours of additional training that character can then train into another racial freighter.

Creating an alt on an existing account

If you are creating an alt on an account with other characters, it is important to note that only one character can be training skills at a time unless you are willing to pay for Multiple Character Training. Attempting to add skills to the training queue will result in an error, so you will need to pause training on your currently training character.

Dual Character Training, introduced in the June 2013 Odyssey expansion, allowed a player to train two characters on the same account for one month for the cost of an additional PLEX. That became Multiple Character Training in late 2013, so you can now train both alts at the same time, and can purchase more than one month of alt training.

Neural remaps

You can decrease the training time required by remapping your attributes. You get 3 remaps total in your first year, so you can afford to remap Int (27)/Mem (21) and train any core skills you need followed by a remap to Per (27)/Will (21) to train the spaceship command skills to fly your ship.

Large T1 haulers
Ship Cargohold High Medium Low Notes
AmarrBestower 4800 2 3 6 Can haul over 21 652 m3 with 6 Cargo Expanders
CaldariTayra 7300 2 5 4 Largest base cargohold
GallenteIteron Mark V 5800 2 4 5 Jack of all trades, master of none
MinmatarMammoth 5500 2 4 5 Has the fastest travel time

Fitting haulers

Haulers are relatively straightforward to fit. For ore hauling, you will want to have maximum cargo capacity, meaning you want to fit Expanded Cargoholds in low slots and Cargohold Optimization in rigs.

For courier missions, you might want to have faster align and warp speed, so you might want to fit Nanofiber Internal Structures and Inertial Stabilizers in low slots and Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer in rigs.

If you wish, you can train skills to equip shield mods such as Shield Extenders and Invulnerability Fields in the mid slots to tank belt rats for a short time. It is also worth while to train skills for these modules to give some basic protection against high-sec ganking.

Optimize with Giant Secure Containers

There are items called Giant Secure Containers (GSC) which take up 3,000 m3 in your cargo hold. The interesting thing is that you can actually put 3,900 m3 of stuff in a GSC - which means you get a 30% space bonus.

Note: Giant Secure Containers are great but with a minor limitation, they cannot store some goods like frozen food, livestock. So keep this in mind if you are using these containers to haul goods.

Advanced hauling and earning ISK via hauling

The next step after mastering industrial hauling are Freighters and Transports.

You can use outside databases, such as EVE Trade, to find profitable trade routes.

To take the first steps in making ISK with your new hauler, you might consider playing the market or running Level 4 Cargo Missions.

Credits

  • Raddick Tseng for suggesting this, and giving some interesting statistics.

See also

References