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'''The Ploy''' is a guide for simultaneously increasing [[Amarr Empire]], [[Caldari State]], [[Gallente Federation]] and [[Minmatar Republic]] [[NPC standings#Faction Standing| Faction Standing]] to 5.0 as quickly as possible.
  
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! Advantages !! Drawbacks
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| Access to all seven [[Epic arcs|Epic Arcs]] || Hard to achieve 7.0 Faction Standing with any [[Faction#Empires|Empire]]
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| Access to all [[Faction#Empires|Empire]] Level 4 [[Missions#Agents|Mission Agents]] || [[NPC standings#Derived standings|Derived Standing]] from [[Missions#Storyline Missions|Storyline Missions]] may drop you below 5.0
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| Reduced [[Tax#Broker fee|Broker Fee]] in all major [[Trade hubs]] ||
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=Get all Empires to 5.0, aka "The Ploy"=
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== Requirements ==
Getting good standings for four major empires is a target that many players want to achieve. It's not extremely hard, but it's tedious and time consuming. The target of this guide is to provide info how to reach 5.0 standings with all four empire factions without too much work involved, and maybe it will also explain details of standings mechanics.
 
  
==Why:==
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Skills:
Having 5.0 standings with empires is beneficial to pilots interested in running missions:
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* {{sk|Social|V|icon=yes|mult=yes}} to gain more Standing from each Mission.
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* {{sk|Connections|IV|icon=yes|mult=yes}} or {{sk|Connections|V|icon=yes|mult=yes}} to have greater [[NPC standings#Skills|Effective Standing]] with the same [[NPC standings#Skills|Unmodified Standing]].
  
* Access to all Level 4 and below missions from all corporations in these empires
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Missions:
* Access to all 4 Epic Arcs from empires, and additionally 2 pirate Epic arcs
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* You can complete at least ten out of fifteen [[Career Agents|Career Agent]] Mission chains for each Empire. If you have already completed all Career Agent Missions you can still complete The Ploy, but you will need to invest more time.
* No need to run Storyline missions
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* You have the ships, fits and skills to complete all four Empire and the Sisters of EVE Epic Arc.
* Potential to re-roll missions from agents with hit to standings to get favorite mission
 
  
* Significant downside - you won't be able to run Storyline missions after this plan is finished
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== Choose a Path ==
  
Be aware that finishing this goal is a long term activity - you need to run a lot of missions to complete it
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The Path dictates the order in which you have to increase your Empire Faction Standings. You can choose a Path only if you have enough Unmodified Faction Standings:
 
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==How:==
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===Standings gain mechanics===
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When standings go up or down they do so as a percentage; this is always a percentage decay towards the extreme end of the scale. For example, if someone has 1.0 standing with an NPC corporation and completes a mission that changes standing by +5%, then the current standing is increased by 5% of the difference from 1 to 10; that's a change of +0.45 with an end result of 1.45. However, if someone else with a 4.0 standing completes the same mission under the same circumstances and also gets a 5% increase, then that's 5% of the difference from 4 to 10; that's a change of +0.30 with an end result of 4.30.
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!style="background-color:#222222;width: 95px;" rowspan="2" | Required<br />Standing
If something causes a standing decrease, then it's a percentage decay towards −10. For example, if someone with 1.0 standing suffers a −5% change, then that's 5% of the difference from 1 to −10; that's a change of −0.55 with an end result of 0.45. If someone with 4.0 standing suffers that same −5% change, then it's 5% of the difference from 4 to −10; that's a change of −0.7 with an end result of 3.3.
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!style="background-color:#222222;" colspan="4" | {{sk|Connections|IV|icon=yes}}
 
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The formula for standing increase is
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!style="background-color:#404050;width: 95px;"| Gallente Path
:<math> \text{ New standing} = \text{Old standing} + ( 10 - \text{Old standing} ) \times \text{Standing increase} </math>
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!style="background-color:#404050;width: 95px;"| Caldari Path
The formula for standing decrease is almost same, just towards -10
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!style="background-color:#404050;width: 95px;"| Minmatar Path
:<math> \text{ New standing} = \text{Old standing} + ( -10 - \text{Old standing} ) \times \text{Standing decrease} </math>
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!style="background-color:#404050;width: 95px;"| Amarr Path
 
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where ''Standing decrease'' is the decimal form of standing change. For example 0.4% would be 0.004.
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!style="background-color:#222222;" | Gallente
 
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| 3.67
The consequence of this math is that the higher your standings are, the less effective standings increases become and the more dramatic penalties become. For example a standing loss of 1% turns 9.0 standing into 8.81 but increase of 1% would bring 9.0 standing to 9.01.
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| 1.32
 
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| 3.67
 
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| 0.10
===Advanced Standings mechanics===
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There are several consequences of standings gain/loss mechanics and math behind it. In no particular order:
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!style="background-color:#222222;" | Caldari
 
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| 1.60
* When concerned only about 4 empires, the standings between them are not symmetrical. Inter-faction standings are shown in table below:
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| 3.85
TBD - table formatting
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| 0.42
 
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| 3.85
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!style="background-color:#222222;" | Minmatar
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| 3.67
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| 0.12
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| 3.66
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| 1.32
 
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! scope="col" | Standing
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!style="background-color:#222222;" | Amarr
! scope="col" | Amarr
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| 1.00
! scope="col" | Caldari
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| 4.17
! scope="col" | Gallente
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| 2.12
! scope="col" | Minmatar
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| 4.18
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|- style="font-weight:bold; vertical-align:middle; background-color:#222;"
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!style="background-color:#222222;width: 95px;" rowspan="2" | Required<br />Standing
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!colspan="4" | {{sk|Connections|V|icon=yes}}
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|- style="font-weight:bold; vertical-align:middle; background-color:#404050;"
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!style="background-color:#404050;width: 95px;"| Gallente Path
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!style="background-color:#404050;width: 95px;"| Caldari Path
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!style="background-color:#404050;width: 95px;"| Minmatar Path
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!style="background-color:#404050;width: 95px;"| Amarr Path
 
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| Amarr || 10 || 5 || -2 || -5
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| style="vertical-align:middle; font-weight:bold; background-color:#222;" | Gallente
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| 3.09
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| 0.69
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| 3.09
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| -0.58
 
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| Caldari || 7 || 10 || -5 || -2
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| style="vertical-align:middle; font-weight:bold; background-color:#222;" | Caldari
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| 0.97
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| 3.28
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| -0.27
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| 3.28
 
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| Gallente || -2 || -5 || 10 || 8
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| style="vertical-align:middle; font-weight:bold; background-color:#222;" | Minmatar
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| 3.10
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| -0.57
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| 3.10
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| 0.69
 
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| Minmatar || -5 || -2 || 8 || 10
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| style="vertical-align:middle; font-weight:bold; background-color:#222;" | Amarr
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| 0.38
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| 3.63
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| 1.54
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| 3.63
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EVE Online displays only Effective Standings. [[User:Chris Halsky|Chris Halsky]]'s [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-H30NZjdxuHW8KXeIUiTF2DoQTziTsL346c7dPL7_cM/edit?usp=sharing Sheet] will suggest which Path you should take based on your current Standings.
  
* After reaching certain point in standings, Storyline missions will not increase your net standings - you will receive the same bonus as penalty. If your standigs are higher than this point (for example due to Epic arcs), storyline missions will reduce total standings - which is not the outcome we need
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If you do not have high enough Faction Standings to choose any Path you will have to [[Gaining faction standings fast|increase your Faction Standings]] first.
* Friends / enemies faction - table?
 
*Corps opening Epic Arcs - needed for The Ploy
 
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===Early game strategy===
 
There are few recommendations to follow since start of the game - without them, the process of getting 5.0 will be much longer:<br>
 
* Avoid missions against factions. This is by far the biggest threat to lowering standings with factions during mission running<br>
 
* Complete Career agent missions ONLY once. Each faction has 3 sets of missions - finishing them grants good standings increase to factions, but this is needed later to avoid grinding Storyline missions<br>
 
* Choose your main faction - the one you run most missions for. This faction and faction allied to it will require high standings to start<br>
 
* Try to run missions for all factions, but limit yourself to 1-2 corporations from each faction - you will reach the point where your faction standings are still low, but you'll be able to run L3/L4 missions - to be able to do that, you need corporation standings above 3.0/5.0 respectively - but it's not strictly necessary to start
 
 
 
===Skills needed===
 
Most important skill to start is [[Social]] - it improves standings gain from each mission. Training to V is recommended to shorten the time needed to achieve 5.0 with all empires. It will be possible without it, but significantly harder.
 
 
 
Skill needed to finish is [[Connections]]. Raised to V improves standings by 20% - this means that in order to have effective 5.0 standing, you only need 3.8 unmodified standing for each faction, which is much more easily obtainable.
 
 
 
===Improving standings===
 
You can think of getting all 4 factions to 5.0 as getting total of 20.0 in faction standings gain - that's the target to achieve. How to approach it:
 
 
 
* Storylines are your bread and butter for faction standings gains - each L4 storyline gives about 0.2 net gain of standings (it depends on your actual standings - the more you have, the lower net gain you will get)
 
* If you want to speed up this process - blitzable missions are your friends. If you approach this as a long term goal - you can run any missions you like. Keep in mind that the requirement to run a lot of storylines makes it long term activity anyway
 
* Circle agents are not worth your time - it's not necessary to do them
 
* SoE epic arc gives 7% of standings - it's +0.75 if your standings are at 0, but only 0.375 if your standings are at 5.0 - run SoE arc as last fix before you start The Ploy
 
* Invite other players to run missions with you, especially L4s if they are alpha or they do not have standings to pull them * you will share rewards, but you will also complete missions faster = faster storylines
 
 
 
==The Ploy==
 
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{{Color box | border=red | text=red | '''WARNING''': Below guide is currently only theoretical, it was not tested. Test is currently in progress, but it will take a while to finish. Follow at your own risk}}<br><br>
 
 
 
"The Ploy" is detailed plan how to get to 5.0 standings. This is the fastest way I've found - and has specific requirements:
 
 
 
* Total standings (unmodified) for all 4 faction is higher than 10.1
 
* Social and Connection skills are trained to V - Social has to be done before starting, Connections can be trained later
 
* At least 2 Career agents from each faction are available to run
 
* Capability to run empire Epic Arcs - in terms of ship/skills
 
 
 
===Step 1. Adjusting standings===
 
To be able to start this plan, you need standings set in following way:<br><br>
 
Chosen faction - 3.70<br>
 
Friendly faction - 3.70<br>
 
Major enemy - 1.90<br>
 
Minor enemy - 0.80<br>
 
 
 
This is minimum required to follow. It's way easier to grind standings now, than to try fix it later. If you're stuck in place where on faction is too low, you can run COSMOS missions or datacenters or more storylines to make it up. If you start with standings below these, you will not be able to finish it - keep that in mind before starting. Since the whole process is long, you might want to run SoE epic arc to fix last faction to required level. Keep in mind that SoE will give you around 0.7 gain if run for Major Enemy - so grind it to 1.2 to get required 1.9
 
 
 
===Step 2. Last check===
 
Check if you have Social at V, standings above minimums. For now you should stop running storyline missions - they will mess up this plan
 
 
 
===Step 3. Career agents===
 
Run all 8 Career agent chains, in following order:<br>
 
* Major enemy<br>
 
* Minor enemy<br>
 
* Major enemy<br>
 
* Minor enemy<br>
 
* Chosen faction<br>
 
* Friendly faction<br>
 
* Chosen faction<br>
 
* Friendly faction<br>
 
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You should have following standings after finishing:<br><br>
 
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Chosen faction - 3.81<br>
 
Friendly faction - 3.81<br>
 
Major enemy - 2.10<br>
 
Minor enemy - 1.31<br>
 
 
 
===Step 4. Epic Arcs===
 
With 3.81 you have 2 Epic arcs unlocked - run them both, picking standings reward (Minmatar!)
 
 
 
===Step 5. Rebalancing===
 
This is the tedious step. Right now storyline missions give almost zero net standings gains, they only shift them around. What you need to achieve are following standings:<br><br>
 
 
 
Chosen faction - 3.81<br>
 
Friendly faction - 3.81<br>
 
Major enemy - 2.92<br>
 
Minor enemy - 2.22<br>
 
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To get to that point, you need to run 7 Storyline missions with 1% reward - this translates to XXX L2 distro storylines, which are the fastest to farm. Simply run L2 distro missions for Major and Minor enemy factions, either swapping them every couple of missions, or start with Major enemy and run it until Chosen faction drops to 3.96. If you choose corps required for Step 6 - it will shorten whole process<br><br>
 
With this step 2 faction are complete - at 3.81 unmodified, you have effective 5.05 with Connections V
 
 
 
===Step 6. Last two===
 
This step might take the longest. To Close the gap for two remaining factions, you need:<br>
 
* Major enemy - run faction Epic Arc
 
* Minor enemy - run faction Epic Arc, then SoE Epic Arc - the order is important if you started with minimum standings!
 
  
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{{co|red||'''You will not be able to reach the 5.0 Faction Standing with all Empires unless you have the minimum required Faction Standing, Skills and Missions.'''}}
  
FIN?
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[[Category:Factions]]
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Latest revision as of 10:07, 17 August 2022


The Ploy is a guide for simultaneously increasing Amarr Empire, Caldari State, Gallente Federation and Minmatar Republic Faction Standing to 5.0 as quickly as possible.

Advantages Drawbacks
Access to all seven Epic Arcs Hard to achieve 7.0 Faction Standing with any Empire
Access to all Empire Level 4 Mission Agents Derived Standing from Storyline Missions may drop you below 5.0
Reduced Broker Fee in all major Trade hubs

Requirements

Skills:

Missions:

  • You can complete at least ten out of fifteen Career Agent Mission chains for each Empire. If you have already completed all Career Agent Missions you can still complete The Ploy, but you will need to invest more time.
  • You have the ships, fits and skills to complete all four Empire and the Sisters of EVE Epic Arc.

Choose a Path

The Path dictates the order in which you have to increase your Empire Faction Standings. You can choose a Path only if you have enough Unmodified Faction Standings:

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Standing
Icon skillbook2.png Connections IV
Gallente Path Caldari Path Minmatar Path Amarr Path
Gallente 3.67 1.32 3.67 0.10
Caldari 1.60 3.85 0.42 3.85
Minmatar 3.67 0.12 3.66 1.32
Amarr 1.00 4.17 2.12 4.18
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Standing
Icon skillbook2.png Connections V
Gallente Path Caldari Path Minmatar Path Amarr Path
Gallente 3.09 0.69 3.09 -0.58
Caldari 0.97 3.28 -0.27 3.28
Minmatar 3.10 -0.57 3.10 0.69
Amarr 0.38 3.63 1.54 3.63

EVE Online displays only Effective Standings. Chris Halsky's Sheet will suggest which Path you should take based on your current Standings.

If you do not have high enough Faction Standings to choose any Path you will have to increase your Faction Standings first.

You will not be able to reach the 5.0 Faction Standing with all Empires unless you have the minimum required Faction Standing, Skills and Missions.