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A hauler alt is a character trained specifically for hauling. There are many reasons to create such an alt, but it primarily stems from a need to move things to and from places on your own timetable.
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This guide is designed to train an alt into [[Deep Space Transport]] and [[Blockade Runner]]. This is sufficient for most personal haulers, but if needed you can train an alt into a [[Freighter]], [[Bowhead]], and [[Jump Freighter]]. The guide is segmented to allow you to pick and choose which ship types you wish to train your alt into based on your needs. Hauling is generally a skill that requires {{clonestate|Omega}} and this guide assumes that your hauler alt is either on its own Omega account or that you are using [[Multiple Character Training]].
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You will want to use the appropriate skill plan for the empire faction you're training into: Armor-tanked support skill for Gallente/Amarr and Shield-tanked support skill for Minmatar/Caldari.
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== Why use a hauler alt? ==
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Training into a hauler can be a long train, especially if training into Jump Freighters. Training one character to do hauling as well as a variety of other activities takes significantly longer and delays being able to either well. Specialization with multiple characters means that you can do both well when training into the desired skills is completed. Additionally, training a hauler alt on a separate account means that you can haul your cargo while doing something else as opposed to choosing between two activities. A hauler alt is also useful because they can be put in a player-owned alt corp such as the [[EVE_University_Hall_of_Residence|Hall of Residence]] without much concern for things like [[Corporation_diplomacy#Wars|hisec wars]]. Without a hauler alt, hisec wars can mean losing cargo to war targets who camp trade hubs and have a proficiency in destroying anything that undocks from the main hub stations.
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When hauling with a Jump Freighter, it becomes almost entirely necessary to have an alt that can haul while another alt lights an [[Jump_drives#Industrial_Cynosural_Fields|industrial cyno]] at a waypoint to allow the Jump Freighter to get where it's going.
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===Training multiple characters===
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If you are creating an alt on an account with other characters, it is important to note that only one character can be training skills at a time '''unless''' you are willing to pay for [[Multiple Character Training]]. Attempting to add skills to the training queue will result in an error, so you will need to pause training on your currently training character if you don't want to pay for MCT.
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== Why no T1 haulers?  ==
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T1 haulers fill a niche created by the fact that other ships simply cannot hold as much as [[haulers]]. If all you want to do is move a large amount of gas, ore, minerals, or planetary commodities from one station or structure within or to a nearby system, then you might consider training up the relevant faction's hauler to fly a [[Haulers#Specialized_transports|specialized hauler]]. For example, at {{Sk|Gallente Hauler|V}} the [[Miasmos]] can hold 63,000m3 which is almost as much as much as a Deep Space Transport's fleet hangar at max skills, but it has a paper tank that cannot hold up against any ganker. Moving anything valuable over longer distances, such as from Stacmon to Jita, puts your cargo at an unnecessary risk. Moving short distances in a T1 hauler in hisec is generally safe, but beyond that T2 haulers are necessary to prevent the loss of all your cargo.
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If you are a member of EVE University and cannot train into T2 hauling ships because you are an {{clonestate|alpha}}, consider using the [[Hauling_Department|University Hauling Service]] to move your stuff around safely for free and the [[Buyback|University Buyback Program]] to sell goods for profit.
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{{ note box | Notes:
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* There are some restrictions on where the University Hauling Service will take your goods and there is a recommended fee for hauling on goods you intend to make a profit on. See the forum post for additional information.
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== Preparing for training  ==
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It is important to read about [[hauling]] as it will save you a lot of time and frustration. Before you even create a character, consider that the Amarr, Gallente, and Minmatar start with {{Sk|Mechanics|III}} and {{Sk|Hull Upgrades|III}}. Regardless of which faction you start with, you can train into any hauling ship. The {{sh|Charon}} is generally considered the best freighter because of its carrying capacity, but the {{sh|Obelisk}} offers the highest EHP and the {{sh|Fenrir}} is the fastest. The {{sh|Providence}} comes in second for agility and tank which means that it might be considered a balanced option. For Deep Space Transports, the {{sh|Occator}} is the fastest at aligning while the {{sh|Impel}} can fit a solid amount of tank thanks to its generous number of low slots. The {{sh|Mastodon}} is a good choice for those looking for a balanced choice between align time and tank.
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The [[Bowhead]] is a unique freighter in that it does not have a large cargo hold like the other freighters. Instead, it features a massive ship maintenance bay which allows it to haul fitted ships. Note that the Bowhead is shield-tanked and if you want to train both a regular freighter and the Bowhead, you might consider training into one of the shield-tanked transport ships for the fastest train. Otherwise, you could train support skills for both shield and armor-tanked hauling ships.
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== Skill plan ==
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The skill plans are divided up between armor-tanked and shield-tanked ships as well Transport Ships (DSTs and Blockade Runners), Freighters, and Jump Freighters. This guide assumes that if you are going to train into a freighter, you will also be training into DST. If you do not, you can remove the {{Sk|Transport Ships}} skill from the skill queue leaving only empire faction specific hauler skill at the beginning of your ship skills portion of the skill queue. To train {{Sk|Jump Freighters}} you will need to train one of the four main empire faction freighters.
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All characters start with {{Sk|Cybernetics|I}} which allows the use of +3 [[Implants#Attribute_Enhancers|training implants]] and this guide assumes you are using them, but you may wish to train {{Sk|Cybernetics|V}} to unlock +5 implants and allows you to use implant sets like Amulets (armor) or Nirvanas (shield) for additional tank and Ascendancies (warp time) or Nomads (align time) for speed.
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The skill plan utilizes neural remaps to reduce training time. It is not required to use the neural remap, but the difference in time is significant. Because this skill plan utilizes three neural remaps, you will want to create a new character rather than training an existing alt. If you are using an existing character, you might consider using the first and third neural remaps to train up support and ship skills as these are the most lengthy skill trains. If your existing character only has the annual remap, consider remapping for the ship skills section as that will be the longest train. The remaps are as follows:
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* Support skills: Intelligence-Memory
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* Navigation skills: Intelligence-Perception
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* Ship skills: Willpower-Perception
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The skills are not all maxed, meaning that after you have trained into the ships you wish to fly you may wish to train certain skills further than this skill plan covers, especially the support and navigation skills.
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The skill plan has also been optimized for the dopamine effect of hearing that a skill has completed training by organizing skills from shortest to longest train wherever possible.
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==Support skills==
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First remap: '''Remapping (active) : i27 p17 c17 w17 m21'''
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=Armor-tanked support skills
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|desc=Gallente/Amarr
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|Jury Rigging I
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Armor Layering I
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Cloaking I
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Industry II
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Jury Rigging II
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Armor Layering II
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Cloaking II
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Industry III
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Jury Rigging III
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Armor Layering III
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Cloaking III
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Industry IV
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Hull Upgrades IV
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Armor Layering IV
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Explosive Armor Compensation I
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EM Armor Compensation I
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Kinetic Armor Compensation I
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Thermal Armor Compensation I
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Armor Rigging I
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Astronautics Rigging I
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EM Armor Compensation II
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Thermal Armor Compensation II
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Kinetic Armor Compensation II
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Explosive Armor Compensation II
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Astronautics Rigging II
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Armor Rigging II
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Explosive Armor Compensation III
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Kinetic Armor Compensation III
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Thermal Armor Compensation III
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EM Armor Compensation III
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Armor Rigging III
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Astronautics Rigging III
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Mechanics IV
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Capacitor Systems Operation IV
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EM Armor Compensation IV
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Thermal Armor Compensation IV
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Kinetic Armor Compensation IV
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Explosive Armor Compensation IV
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Capacitor Management IV
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Astronautics Rigging IV
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Armor Rigging IV
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Industry V
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Capacitor Systems Operation V
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Cloaking IV
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Capacitor Management V}}
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{{Sk|Jury Rigging|III|mult=yes}} 7 hours, 18 minutes, 2 seconds
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{{Sk|Industry|V|mult=yes}} 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds
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{{Sk|Cloaking|IV|mult=yes}} 5 days, 4 hour, 11 minutes
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{{Sk|Armor Layering|IV|mult=yes}} 2 days, 14 hours, 5 minutes, 30 seconds
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{{Sk|Hull Upgrades|IV|mult=yes}} 1 day, 9 hours, 6 minutes, 55 seconds
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{{Sk|Explosive Armor Compensation|IV|mult=yes}} 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds
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{{Sk|EM Armor Compensation|IV|mult=yes}} 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds
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{{Sk|Thermal Armor Compensation|IV|mult=yes}} 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds
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{{Sk|Kinetic Armor Compensation|IV|mult=yes}} 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds
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{{Sk|Armor Rigging|IV|mult=yes}} 2 days, 14 hours, 5 minutes, 30 seconds
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{{Sk|Astronautics Rigging|IV|mult=yes}} 2 days, 14 hours, 5 minutes, 30 seconds
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{{Sk|Mechanics|IV|mult=yes}} 20 hours, 41 minutes, 49 seconds
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{{Sk|Capacitor Systems Operation|V|mult=yes}} 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds
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{{Sk|Capacitor Management|V|mult=yes}} 14 days, 15 hours, 14 minutes, 30 seconds
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=Shield-tanked support skills
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|desc=Caldari/Minmatar
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|Shield Operation I
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Jury Rigging I
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Cloaking I
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Shield Operation II
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Shield Upgrades II
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Industry II
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Jury Rigging II
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Tactical Shield Manipulation II
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Cloaking II
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Shield Operation III
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Industry III
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Jury Rigging III
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Astronautics Rigging I
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Shield Rigging I
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Astronautics Rigging II
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Shield Rigging II
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Shield Upgrades III
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Shield Rigging III
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Astronautics Rigging III
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Tactical Shield Manipulation III
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Cloaking III
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Shield Operation IV
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Industry IV
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Mechanics IV
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Capacitor Systems Operation IV
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Shield Upgrades IV
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Capacitor Management IV
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Tactical Shield Manipulation IV
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Shield Rigging IV
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Astronautics Rigging IV
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Capacitor Management V
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Industry V
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Capacitor Systems Operation V}}
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{{Sk|Jury Rigging|III|mult=yes}} 7 hours, 18 minutes, 2 seconds
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{{Sk|Industry|V|mult=yes}} 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds
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{{Sk|Cloaking|IV|mult=yes}} 5 days, 4 hour, 11 minutes
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{{Sk|Shield Operation|IV|mult=yes}} 20 hours, 41 minutes, 49 seconds
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{{Sk|Shield Upgrades|IV|mult=yes}} 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds
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{{Sk|Hull Upgrades|IV|mult=yes}} 1 day, 9 hours, 6 minutes, 55 seconds
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{{Sk|Explosive Shield Compensation|IV|mult=yes}} 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds
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{{Sk|EM Shield Compensation|IV|mult=yes}} 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds
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{{Sk|Thermal Shield Compensation|IV|mult=yes}} 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds
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{{Sk|Kinetic Shield Compensation|IV|mult=yes}} 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds
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{{Sk|Shield Rigging|IV|mult=yes}} 2 days, 14 hours, 5 minutes, 30 seconds
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{{Sk|Astronautics Rigging|IV|mult=yes}} 2 days, 14 hours, 5 minutes, 30 seconds
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{{Sk|Tactical Shield Manipulation|IV|mult=yes}} 2 days, 10 hours, 47 minutes, 19 seconds
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{{Sk|Mechanics|IV|mult=yes}} 20 hours, 41 minutes, 49 seconds
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{{Sk|Capacitor Systems Operation|V|mult=yes}} 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds
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{{Sk|Capacitor Management|V|mult=yes}} 14 days, 15 hours, 14 minutes, 30 seconds
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=Jump Freighter support skills
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|desc=Only add this skill if you're planning to train Jump Freighters
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|Science V}}
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{{Sk|Science|V|mult=yes}} 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds
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==Navigation==
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Second remap: '''Remapping (active) : i27 p21 c17 w17 m17'''
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=Navigation skills - Transport Ships/Freighter
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|desc=Valid for all empire factions
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|Acceleration Control I
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Acceleration Control II
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High Speed Maneuvering II
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Warp Drive Operation III
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Acceleration Control III
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High Speed Maneuvering III
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Warp Drive Operation IV
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Acceleration Control IV
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Navigation IV
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High Speed Maneuvering IV
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Warp Drive Operation V
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Micro Jump Drive Operation I}}
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{{Sk|Acceleration Control|IV|mult=yes}} 3 days, 10 hours, 47 minutes, 19 seconds
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{{Sk|Navigation|IV|mult=yes}} 20 hours, 41 minutes, 49 seconds
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{{Sk|High Speed Maneuvering|IV|mult=yes}} 4 days, 7 hours, 29 minutes, 10 seconds
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{{Sk|Warp Drive Operation|V|mult=yes}} 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds
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{{Sk|Micro Jump Drive Operation|I|mult=yes}} 33 minutes, 20 seconds
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=Navigation skills - Jump Freighter
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|desc=Only use this if you are planning to train into jump freighter
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|Navigation IV
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Navigation V
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Warp Drive Operation III
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Warp Drive Operation IV
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Warp Drive Operation V
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Jump Drive Operation I
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Evasive Maneuvering II
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High Speed Maneuvering II
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Jump Drive Operation II
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Evasive Maneuvering III
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High Speed Maneuvering III
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Jump Drive Operation III
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High Speed Maneuvering IV
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Jump Drive Operation IV
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Evasive Maneuvering IV
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Jump Drive Operation V
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Micro Jump Drive Operation I
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Jump Fuel Conservation I
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Jump Drive Calibration I
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Jump Fuel Conservation II
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Jump Drive Calibration II
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Jump Fuel Conservation III
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Jump Drive Calibration III
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Jump Fuel Conservation IV
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Jump Drive Calibration IV
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Jump Drive Calibration V}}
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{{Sk|Acceleration Control|IV|mult=yes}} 3 days, 10 hours, 47 minutes, 19 seconds
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{{Sk|Navigation|V|mult=yes}} 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds
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{{Sk|High Speed Maneuvering|IV|mult=yes}} 4 days, 7 hours, 29 minutes, 10 seconds
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{{Sk|Warp Drive Operation|V|mult=yes}} 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds
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{{Sk|Micro Jump Drive Operation|I|mult=yes}} 33 minutes, 20 seconds
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{{Sk|Jump Drive Operation|V|mult=yes}} 24 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes, 9 seconds
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{{Sk|Jump Fuel Conservation|IV|mult=yes}} 6 days, 21 hours, 34 minutes, 38 seconds
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{{Sk|Jump Drive Calibration|V|mult=yes}} 43 days, 21 hours, 43 minutes, 32 seconds
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==Ship skills==
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Third remap: '''Remapping (active) : i17 p27 c17 w21 m17'''
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=Amarr Transport Skills
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|desc=Amarr DST/Blockade Runner
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|Amarr Hauler I
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Amarr Hauler II
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Amarr Hauler III
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Amarr Hauler IV
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Amarr Hauler V
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Transport Ships I
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Transport Ships II
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Transport Ships III
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Transport Ships IV
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Transport Ships V}}
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{{Sk|Amarr Hauler|V|mult=yes}} 19 days, 12 hours, 19 minutes, 20 seconds
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{{Sk|Transport Ships|V|mult=yes}} 29 days, 6 hours, 29 minutes
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{{main|Alternate characters}}{{Skillplan Navbar}}
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{{SkillQueue
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Hauling can be a great way to earn ISK doing [[Using EVE-Central to haul profitably|profitable trade runs]]. By reading this guide, you will learn how to create the quickest, most efficient hauler.
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|name=Gallente Transport Skills
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|desc=Gallente DST/Blockade Runner
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|Gallente Hauler I
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Gallente Hauler II
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Gallente Hauler III
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Gallente Hauler IV
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Gallente Hauler V
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Transport Ships I
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Transport Ships II
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Transport Ships III
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Transport Ships IV
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Transport Ships V}}
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{{Sk|Gallente Hauler|V|mult=yes}} 19 days, 12 hours, 19 minutes, 20 seconds
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{{Sk|Transport Ships|V|mult=yes}} 29 days, 6 hours, 29 minutes
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=Minmatar Transport Skills
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|desc=Minmatar DST/Blockade Runner
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|Minmatar Hauler I
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Minmatar Hauler II
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Minmatar Hauler III
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Minmatar Hauler IV
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Minmatar Hauler V
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Transport Ships I
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Transport Ships II
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Transport Ships III
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Transport Ships IV
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Transport Ships V}}
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{{Sk|Minmatar Hauler|V|mult=yes}} 19 days, 12 hours, 19 minutes, 20 seconds
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{{Sk|Transport Ships|V|mult=yes}} 29 days, 6 hours, 29 minutes
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=Caldari Transport Skills
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|desc=Caldari DST/Blockade Runner
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|Caldari Hauler I
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Caldari Hauler II
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Caldari Hauler III
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Caldari Hauler IV
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Caldari Hauler V
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Transport Ships I
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Transport Ships II
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Transport Ships III
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Transport Ships IV
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Transport Ships V}}
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{{Sk|Caldari Hauler|V|mult=yes}} 19 days, 12 hours, 19 minutes, 20 seconds
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{{Sk|Transport Ships|V|mult=yes}} 29 days, 6 hours, 29 minutes
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=Caldari Freighter Skills
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|desc=Charon
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|Spaceship Command IV
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Spaceship Command V
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Advanced Spaceship Command I
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Advanced Spaceship Command II
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Advanced Spaceship Command III
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Advanced Spaceship Command IV
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Advanced Spaceship Command V
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Caldari Freighter I
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Caldari Freighter II
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Caldari Freighter III
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Caldari Freighter IV}}
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{{Sk|Spaceship Command|V|mult=yes}} 4 days, 21 hours, 49 seconds
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{{Sk|Advanced Spaceship Command|V|mult=yes}} 24 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes, 9 seconds
  
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== Why use an alt hauler? ==
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{{Sk|Caldari Freighter|IV|mult=yes}} 8 days, 14 hours, 58 minutes, 17 seconds
  
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Since the Crius patch, no training is needed to fit a pilot's racial [[hauler]] with Expanded Cargohold IIs and Medium Cargohold Optimization I rigs. This means that any character can fly a basic hauler to carry goods across star systems.
 
  
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Within High-Security space, Alt haulers are great as they will be immune to War targets that the main account in a corporation may have to deal with otherwise. Alt-Haulers provide no protection against gankers however, so it is advisable to [[tank]] your hauler while in High Sec to survive attacks until [[CONCORD]] responds.
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=Gallente Freighter Skills
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|desc=Obelisk
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|Spaceship Command IV
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Spaceship Command V
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Advanced Spaceship Command I
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Advanced Spaceship Command II
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Advanced Spaceship Command III
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Advanced Spaceship Command IV
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Advanced Spaceship Command V
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Gallente Freighter I
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Gallente Freighter II
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Gallente Freighter III
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Gallente Freighter IV}}
  
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In other parts of space (Low-sec, Null-sec, and Wormhole space), CONCORD does not assist in case of your hauler being attacked by other players. In most communities, players operate under an [[NBSI]] policy for engagements, where they attack anyone who is not set as friendly according to their corporation's standings. Many corporations have processes to apply for Blue standings with their corporation, in order to avoid attacks from corp members while in their part of space.
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{{Sk|Spaceship Command|V|mult=yes}} 4 days, 21 hours, 49 seconds
  
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{{euninote|See [[EVE University Rules]] for EVE University's Rules of Engagement}}
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{{Sk|Advanced Spaceship Command|V|mult=yes}} 24 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes, 9 seconds
  
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EVE University has a Non Aggression Pact (NAP) Program that corporations can apply for +5 Blue standing to Uni members. Information on how to apply can be found [[Diplomacy Department#Standings Request|here]]. If you want to use an Alt-hauler in Uni controlled space, you must be a part of a player corporation, in order to apply for NAP protection.
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{{Sk|Gallente Freighter|IV|mult=yes}} 8 days, 14 hours, 58 minutes, 17 seconds
  
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== Hauler table  ==
 
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Here is a table of suggested haulers for all types of cargo, showing their cargo capacity in m<sup>3</sup> with no additional training.  All low slots should be filled with Expanded Cargohold IIs, and with Medium Cargohold Optimization I rigs (these modules increase a ship's cargo capacity).
 
  
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The industrial rebalance Odyssey 1.1 patch gave the Bestower the highest potential cargo, the Mammoth, the fastest travel time, the Tayra a launcher and highest base cargohold and made the Iteron Mark V average all-around due to the conversion of the Iteron Mark 2/3/4 into specialized ships for minerals, planetary commodities and ore.<ref>[https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/message/3263586 Odyssey 1.1 - Tech 1 Industrials, Round 2]</ref>
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=Amarr Freighter Skills
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|desc=Providence
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|Spaceship Command IV
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Spaceship Command V
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Advanced Spaceship Command I
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Advanced Spaceship Command II
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Advanced Spaceship Command III
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Advanced Spaceship Command IV
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Advanced Spaceship Command V
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Amarr Freighter I
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Amarr Freighter II
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Amarr Freighter III
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Amarr Freighter IV}}
  
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{{Sk|Spaceship Command|V|mult=yes}} 4 days, 21 hours, 49 seconds
  
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{{Sk|Advanced Spaceship Command|V|mult=yes}} 24 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes, 9 seconds
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! Ship
 
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! Empire
 
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! Base cargo {{m3}}
 
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! style="width: 30em; " | Cargo m<sup>3</sup> with both Expanded Cargohold IIs and Medium Cargohold Optimization I rigs
 
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| style="text-align: left;" | [[Bestower]]
 
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| Amarr
 
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| 4,800
 
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| 32,929
 
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|-
 
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| style="text-align: left;" | [[Tayra]]<br>
 
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| Caldari
 
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| 7,300
 
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| 30,806
 
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|-
 
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| style="text-align: left;" | [[Iteron Mark V]]
 
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| Gallente
 
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| 5,800
 
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| 31,207
 
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|-
 
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| style="text-align: left;" | [[Mammoth]]
 
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| Minmatar
 
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| 5,500
 
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| 29,593
 
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|}
 
  
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{{Sk|Amarr Freighter|IV|mult=yes}} 8 days, 14 hours, 58 minutes, 17 seconds
  
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== Weighing training time against how much you want to haul ==
 
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The Bestower is the top hauler for general cargo. The Bestower carries less specific cargo than the modified haulers with special bays for ore, etc like the [[Kryos]] and [[Miasmos]]. The Bestower is also a good choice if you want to use the hauler with the highest possible general cargo capacity in the game.
 
  
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Hauling safely is still a concern with all haulers. The 4 general purpose, large capacity haulers can only fit three meta 4 Medium shield extenders and end up with around 6,000 ehp +/- depending on the race. One recommendation is to only carry 3 to 5 million ISK in value per 1,000 of ehp. Another recommendation is the 50 million ISK maximum collateral for T1 industrial haulers used by eve hauling company MicroPush.<ref>[https://www.pushx.net/rates.php PushX Rates] (no endorsement intended)</ref> If you carry too much cargo value often enough, you will lose your ship.
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=Minmatar Freighter Skills
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|desc=Fenrir
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|Spaceship Command IV
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Spaceship Command V
 +
Advanced Spaceship Command I
 +
Advanced Spaceship Command II
 +
Advanced Spaceship Command III
 +
Advanced Spaceship Command IV
 +
Advanced Spaceship Command V
 +
Minmatar Freighter I
 +
Minmatar Freighter II
 +
Minmatar Freighter III
 +
Minmatar Freighter IV}}
  
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(See also [[Hauling#Hauling Craft|Hauling ships]])
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{{Sk|Spaceship Command|V|mult=yes}} 4 days, 21 hours, 49 seconds
  
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== Preparing for training  ==
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{{Sk|Advanced Spaceship Command|V|mult=yes}} 24 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes, 9 seconds
  
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It is important to read about [[hauling]] as it will save you a lot of time and frustrations. Before you even create a character, there are many things to consider: The race of your character, whether you have other characters in the account and if you want to do a neural remap.
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{{Sk|Minmatar Freighter|IV|mult=yes}} 8 days, 14 hours, 58 minutes, 17 seconds
  
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=== Racial characters  ===
 
  
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Following the Odyssey expansion, the choice of Race, bloodline and ancestry has no effect on the training time. Racial Frigate III is no longer a requirement for Racial Hauler I. A character of any race can train to Amarr Hauler III and get a [[Bestower]]. Then proceed to training Spaceship Command I-V and Advanced Spaceship Command I-V to get an Amarr Freighter. Or with less than 18 hours of additional training that character can then train into another racial freighter.
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=ORE Freighter Skills
 +
|desc=Bowhead
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|Spaceship Command IV
 +
Spaceship Command V
 +
ORE Hauler I
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Advanced Spaceship Command I
 +
ORE Hauler II
 +
Advanced Spaceship Command II
 +
ORE Hauler III
 +
Advanced Spaceship Command III
 +
Advanced Spaceship Command IV
 +
Advanced Spaceship Command V
 +
ORE Freighter I
 +
ORE Freighter II
 +
ORE Freighter III
 +
ORE Freighter IV}}
  
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=== Creating an alt on an existing account  ===
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{{Sk|Spaceship Command|V|mult=yes}} 4 days, 21 hours, 49 seconds
  
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If you are creating an alt on an account with other characters, it is important to note that only one character can be training skills at a time '''unless''' you are willing to pay for Multiple Character Training. Attempting to add skills to the training queue will result in an error, so you will need to pause training on your currently training character.
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{{Sk|Advanced Spaceship Command|V|mult=yes}} 24 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes, 9 seconds
  
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Dual Character Training, introduced in the June 2013 Odyssey expansion, allowed a player to train two characters on the same account for one month for the cost of an additional PLEX.  That became Multiple Character Training in late 2013, so you can now train both alts at the same time, and can purchase more than one month of alt training.  For more info see [[Multiple Character Training]]
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{{Sk|ORE Freighter|IV|mult=yes}} 7 days, 18 hours, 16 minutes, 28 seconds
  
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=== Neural remaps  ===
 
  
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You can decrease the training time required by remapping your attributes. You get 3 remaps total in your first year, so you can afford to remap Int (27)/Mem (21) and train any core skills you need followed by a remap to Per (27)/Will (21) to train the spaceship command skills to fly your ship.
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{{SkillQueue
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|name=Jump Freighter Skills
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|desc=Valid for all empire factions
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|Jump Freighters I
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Jump Freighters II
 +
Jump Freighters III
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Jump Freighters IV}}
  
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{| class="wikitable"
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{{Sk|Jump Freighters|IV|mult=yes}} 12 days, 1 hour, 45 minutes, 36 seconds
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|+ Large T1 haulers
 
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|-
 
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! Ship
 
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! Cargohold
 
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! High
 
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! Medium
 
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! Low
 
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! Notes
 
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|-
 
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| {{Sh|Bestower}}
 
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| 4800
 
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| 2
 
−
| 3
 
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| 6
 
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| Can haul over 21 652 m3 with 6 Cargo Expanders
 
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|-
 
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| {{Sh|Tayra}}
 
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| 7300
 
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| 2
 
−
| 5
 
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| 4
 
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| Largest base cargohold
 
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|-
 
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| {{Sh|Iteron Mark V}}
 
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| 5800
 
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| 2
 
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| 4
 
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| 5
 
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| Jack of all trades, master of none
 
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|-
 
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| {{Sh|Mammoth}}
 
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| 5500
 
−
| 2
 
−
| 4
 
−
| 5
 
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| Has the fastest travel time
 
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|}
 
  
 
== Fitting haulers  ==
 
== Fitting haulers  ==
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Hauling ships can be fit in a few different ways. For DSTs, you can fit for extra cargo, tank, or align. For freighters, you can fit for extra cargo or extra tank. Generally speaking, you only want to replace what's necessary to carry the haul. The fits below are designed for tank with extra cargo in hold. Note that it is generally a good idea to keep the main hold of a DST solely for things the DST needs and the fleet hangar for cargo.
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 +
===Deep Space Transports===
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These are fits that give you good tank somewhere between 70k-100k EHP.
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{{ShipFitting
 +
| ship=Occator
 +
| fitName=EUNI Wiki Example Fit
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| fitID=
 +
| high1name=Compact Interdiction Nullifier
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| high1typeID=58966
 +
| high2name=Improved Cloaking Device II
 +
| high2typeID=11577
 +
| mid1name=50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
 +
| mid1typeID=35659
 +
| mid2name=10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
 +
| mid2typeID=35656
 +
| mid3name=Large Shield Extender II
 +
| mid3typeID=3841
 +
| low1name=Damage Control II
 +
| low1typeID=2048
 +
| low2name=Inertial Stabilizers II
 +
| low2typeID=1405
 +
| low3name=Federation Navy Explosive Coating
 +
| low3typeID=17553
 +
| low4name=Federation Navy Explosive Coating
 +
| low4typeID=17553
 +
| low5name=Federation Navy 400mm Steel Plates
 +
| low5typeID=31910
 +
| low6name=Federation Navy Multispectrum Coating
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| low6typeID=17549
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| charge1name=Core Probe Launcher I
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| charge1typeID=17938
 +
| charge2name=Core Scanner Probe I x16
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| charge2typeID=30013
 +
| charge3name=Expanded Cargohold II
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| charge3typeID=1319
 +
| charge4name=Mobile Depot
 +
| charge4typeID=33474
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| rig1name=Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
 +
| rig1typeID=31059
 +
| rig2name=Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
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| rig2typeID=31059
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| difficulty=1
 +
| version=2023.31.12
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| skills=
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| notes=Mobile depot, probes, and launcher are in case of getting lost in a wormhole.
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| showTOC=N
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| showSKILLS=N
 +
| showNOTES=N
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}}{{ShipFitting
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| ship=Bustard
 +
| fitName=EUNI Wiki Example Fit
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| fitID=
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| high1name=Compact Interdiction Nullifier
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| high1typeID=58966
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| high2name=Improved Cloaking Device II
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| high2typeID=11577
 +
| mid1name=50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
 +
| mid1typeID=35659
 +
| mid2name=10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
 +
| mid2typeID=35656
 +
| mid3name=Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
 +
| mid3typeID=2281
 +
| mid4name=EM Shield Amplifier II
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| mid4typeID=2553
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| mid5name=EM Shield Amplifier II
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| mid5typeID=2553
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| mid6name=Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
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| mid6typeID=31932
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| low1name=Reactor Control Unit II
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| low1typeID=1355
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| low2name=Damage Control II
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| low2typeID=2048
 +
| low3name=Inertial Stabilizers II
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| low3typeID=1405
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| charge1name=Core Probe Launcher I
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| charge1typeID=17938
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| charge2name=Core Scanner Probe I x16
 +
| charge2typeID=30013
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| charge3name=Expanded Cargohold II x3
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| charge3typeID=1319
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| charge4name=Mobile Depot
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| charge4typeID=33474
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| rig1name=Medium Ancillary Current Router I
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| rig1typeID=31360
 +
| rig2name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
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| rig2typeID=31796
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| difficulty=1
 +
| version=2023.31.12
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| skills=
 +
| notes=Mobile depot, probes, and launcher are in case of getting lost in a wormhole.
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| showTOC=N
 +
| showSKILLS=N
 +
| showNOTES=N
 +
}}
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{{ShipFitting
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| ship=Impel
 +
| fitName=EUNI Wiki Example Fit
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| fitID=
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| high1name=Compact Interdiction Nullifier
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| high1typeID=58966
 +
| high2name=Improved Cloaking Device II
 +
| high2typeID=11577
 +
| mid1name=50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
 +
| mid1typeID=35659
 +
| mid2name=10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
 +
| mid2typeID=35656
 +
| low1name=Damage Control II
 +
| low1typeID=2048
 +
| low2name=Inertial Stabilizers II
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| low2typeID=1405
 +
| low3name=Thermal Coating II
 +
| low3typeID=1296
 +
| low4name=Thermal Coating II
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| low4typeID=1296
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| low5name=EM Coating II
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| low5typeID=1198
 +
| low6name=Reactive Armor Hardener
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| low6typeID=4403
 +
| charge1name=Core Probe Launcher I
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| charge1typeID=17938
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| charge2name=Core Scanner Probe I x16
 +
| charge2typeID=30013
 +
| charge3name=Expanded Cargohold II
 +
| charge3typeID=1319
 +
| charge4name=Mobile Depot
 +
| charge4typeID=33474
 +
| rig1name=Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
 +
| rig1typeID=31059
 +
| rig2name=Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
 +
| rig2typeID=31059
 +
| difficulty=1
 +
| version=2023.31.12
 +
| skills=
 +
| notes=Mobile depot, probes, and launcher are in case of getting lost in a wormhole.
 +
| showTOC=N
 +
| showSKILLS=N
 +
| showNOTES=N
 +
}}{{ShipFitting
 +
| ship=Mastodon
 +
| fitName=EUNI Wiki Example Fit
 +
| fitID=
 +
| high1name=Compact Interdiction Nullifier
 +
| high1typeID=58966
 +
| high2name=Improved Cloaking Device II
 +
| high2typeID=11577
 +
| mid1name=50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
 +
| mid1typeID=35659
 +
| mid2name=Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
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| mid2typeID=31930
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| mid3name=Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
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| mid3typeID=31930
 +
| mid4name=Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
 +
| mid4typeID=2281
 +
| mid5name=Kinetic Shield Amplifier II
 +
| mid5typeID=2547
 +
| low1name=Reactor Control Unit II
 +
| low1typeID=1355
 +
| low2name=Damage Control II
 +
| low2typeID=2048
 +
| low3name=Inertial Stabilizers II
 +
| low3typeID=1405
 +
| low4name=Mark I Compact Reactor Control Unit
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| low4typeID=8263
 +
| charge1name=Core Probe Launcher I
 +
| charge1typeID=17938
 +
| charge2name=Core Scanner Probe I x16
 +
| charge2typeID=30013
 +
| charge3name=Expanded Cargohold II x3
 +
| charge3typeID=1319
 +
| charge4name=Mobile Depot
 +
| charge4typeID=33474
 +
| rig1name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
 +
| rig1typeID=31796
 +
| rig2name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
 +
| rig2typeID=31796
 +
| difficulty=1
 +
| version=2023.31.12
 +
| skills=
 +
| notes=Mobile depot, probes, and launcher are in case of getting lost in a wormhole.
 +
| showTOC=N
 +
| showSKILLS=N
 +
| showNOTES=N
 +
}}
  
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Haulers are relatively straightforward to fit. For ore hauling, you will want to have maximum cargo capacity, meaning you want to fit Expanded Cargoholds in low slots and Cargohold Optimization in rigs.
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===Freighters===
  
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For courier missions, you might want to have faster align and warp speed, so you might want to fit Nanofiber Internal Structures and Inertial Stabilizers in low slots and Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer in rigs.  
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Freighters are the easiest to fit. They have three low slots regardless of which empire you trained into. That's it. For tank, use Reinforced Bulkheads II. For extra cargo, use Expanded Cargohold IIs.  
  
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If you wish, you can train skills to equip shield mods such as Shield Extenders and Invulnerability Fields in the mid slots to tank belt rats for a short time. It is also worth while to train skills for these modules to give some basic protection against high-sec ganking.
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{{ShipFitting
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| ship=Obelisk
 +
| fitName=EUNI Wiki Example Fit
 +
| fitID=
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| low1name=Reinforced Bulkheads II
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| low1typeID=1335
 +
| low2name=Reinforced Bulkheads II
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| low2typeID=1335
 +
| low3name=Reinforced Bulkheads II
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| low3typeID=1335
 +
| charge1name=Expanded Cargohold II x3
 +
| charge1typeID=1319 
 +
| difficulty=1
 +
| version=2023.31.12
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| skills=
 +
| notes=
 +
| showTOC=N
 +
| showSKILLS=N
 +
| showNOTES=N
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}}
  
 
== Optimize with Giant Secure Containers  ==
 
== Optimize with Giant Secure Containers  ==
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There are items called ''Giant Secure Containers'' (GSC) which take up 3,000 {{m3}} in your cargo hold. The interesting thing is that you can put 3,900 {{m3}} of stuff in a GSC - which means you get a 30% space bonus.
  
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There are items called ''Giant Secure Containers'' (GSC) which take up 3,000 m<sup>3</sup> in your cargo hold. The interesting thing is that you can actually put 3,900 m<sup>3</sup> of stuff in a GSC - which means you get a 30% space bonus.
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{{ note box | Notes:
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* Giant Secure Containers are great but with a minor limitation, they cannot store some goods like frozen food, or livestock. So keep this in mind if you are using these containers to haul goods.
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Note&nbsp;: Giant Secure Containers are great but with a minor limitation, they cannot store some goods like frozen food, livestock. So keep this in mind if you are using these containers to haul goods.  
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| italics= no }}
  
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== Advanced hauling and earning ISK via hauling  ==
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== Earning ISK via hauling  ==
  
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The next step after mastering industrial hauling are Freighters and Transports. [[Advanced Hauling|This section]] will discuss training toward flying these sorts of ships, including how fastest to train toward them.
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Earning ISK via hauling can be done both with players and NPCs. To make money hauling for players, try keeping an eye out for courier contracts in the in-game channel: {{co|slateblue|Hauler's Channel}}. Just be mindful that people will sometimes try to use courier contracts to scam you.  
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You can use outside databases, such as [[Using EVE-Central to haul  profitably|EVE Trade]], to find profitable trade routes.
 
  
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To take the first steps in making ISK with your new hauler, you might consider [[Trading#Hauling|playing the market]] or running [[Making Money with Hauling - Level 4 Cargo Missions|Level 4 Cargo Missions]].
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You can also earn ISK hauling with [[Distribution missions]]. Be aware that L1 missions sometimes require combat and therefore if you're grinding standings, it may be worth reading mission guides to make sure you have what you need.
  
 
== Credits  ==
 
== Credits  ==
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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* [[Using EVE-Central to haul profitably|Using Eve-Central to haul profitably]]
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* [[Using external tools to haul profitably]]
 
* [[Making Money with Hauling - Level 4 Cargo Missions]]
 
* [[Making Money with Hauling - Level 4 Cargo Missions]]
  
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* [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-20-04 Patch notes: Renaming T1 industrials class to haulers]
 
* [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-20-04 Patch notes: Renaming T1 industrials class to haulers]
  
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Latest revision as of 11:17, 12 May 2024

Main article: Alternate characters
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EVE University
Skill plans
Skill training

A hauler alt is a character trained specifically for hauling. There are many reasons to create such an alt, but it primarily stems from a need to move things to and from places on your own timetable.

This guide is designed to train an alt into Deep Space Transport and Blockade Runner. This is sufficient for most personal haulers, but if needed you can train an alt into a Freighter, Bowhead, and Jump Freighter. The guide is segmented to allow you to pick and choose which ship types you wish to train your alt into based on your needs. Hauling is generally a skill that requires Omega.png Omega clone and this guide assumes that your hauler alt is either on its own Omega account or that you are using Multiple Character Training.

You will want to use the appropriate skill plan for the empire faction you're training into: Armor-tanked support skill for Gallente/Amarr and Shield-tanked support skill for Minmatar/Caldari.

Why use a hauler alt?

Training into a hauler can be a long train, especially if training into Jump Freighters. Training one character to do hauling as well as a variety of other activities takes significantly longer and delays being able to either well. Specialization with multiple characters means that you can do both well when training into the desired skills is completed. Additionally, training a hauler alt on a separate account means that you can haul your cargo while doing something else as opposed to choosing between two activities. A hauler alt is also useful because they can be put in a player-owned alt corp such as the Hall of Residence without much concern for things like hisec wars. Without a hauler alt, hisec wars can mean losing cargo to war targets who camp trade hubs and have a proficiency in destroying anything that undocks from the main hub stations.

When hauling with a Jump Freighter, it becomes almost entirely necessary to have an alt that can haul while another alt lights an industrial cyno at a waypoint to allow the Jump Freighter to get where it's going.

Training multiple characters

If you are creating an alt on an account with other characters, it is important to note that only one character can be training skills at a time unless you are willing to pay for Multiple Character Training. Attempting to add skills to the training queue will result in an error, so you will need to pause training on your currently training character if you don't want to pay for MCT.

Why no T1 haulers?

T1 haulers fill a niche created by the fact that other ships simply cannot hold as much as haulers. If all you want to do is move a large amount of gas, ore, minerals, or planetary commodities from one station or structure within or to a nearby system, then you might consider training up the relevant faction's hauler to fly a specialized hauler. For example, at Gallente Hauler V the Miasmos can hold 63,000m3 which is almost as much as much as a Deep Space Transport's fleet hangar at max skills, but it has a paper tank that cannot hold up against any ganker. Moving anything valuable over longer distances, such as from Stacmon to Jita, puts your cargo at an unnecessary risk. Moving short distances in a T1 hauler in hisec is generally safe, but beyond that T2 haulers are necessary to prevent the loss of all your cargo.

If you are a member of EVE University and cannot train into T2 hauling ships because you are an Alpha.png Alpha clone, consider using the University Hauling Service to move your stuff around safely for free and the University Buyback Program to sell goods for profit.

Notes:
  • There are some restrictions on where the University Hauling Service will take your goods and there is a recommended fee for hauling on goods you intend to make a profit on. See the forum post for additional information.

Preparing for training

It is important to read about hauling as it will save you a lot of time and frustration. Before you even create a character, consider that the Amarr, Gallente, and Minmatar start with Mechanics III and Hull Upgrades III. Regardless of which faction you start with, you can train into any hauling ship. The Caldari Charon is generally considered the best freighter because of its carrying capacity, but the Gallente Obelisk offers the highest EHP and the Minmatar Fenrir is the fastest. The Amarr Providence comes in second for agility and tank which means that it might be considered a balanced option. For Deep Space Transports, the Gallente Occator is the fastest at aligning while the Amarr Impel can fit a solid amount of tank thanks to its generous number of low slots. The Minmatar Mastodon is a good choice for those looking for a balanced choice between align time and tank.

The Bowhead is a unique freighter in that it does not have a large cargo hold like the other freighters. Instead, it features a massive ship maintenance bay which allows it to haul fitted ships. Note that the Bowhead is shield-tanked and if you want to train both a regular freighter and the Bowhead, you might consider training into one of the shield-tanked transport ships for the fastest train. Otherwise, you could train support skills for both shield and armor-tanked hauling ships.

Skill plan

The skill plans are divided up between armor-tanked and shield-tanked ships as well Transport Ships (DSTs and Blockade Runners), Freighters, and Jump Freighters. This guide assumes that if you are going to train into a freighter, you will also be training into DST. If you do not, you can remove the Transport Ships skill from the skill queue leaving only empire faction specific hauler skill at the beginning of your ship skills portion of the skill queue. To train Jump Freighters you will need to train one of the four main empire faction freighters.

All characters start with Cybernetics I which allows the use of +3 training implants and this guide assumes you are using them, but you may wish to train Cybernetics V to unlock +5 implants and allows you to use implant sets like Amulets (armor) or Nirvanas (shield) for additional tank and Ascendancies (warp time) or Nomads (align time) for speed.

The skill plan utilizes neural remaps to reduce training time. It is not required to use the neural remap, but the difference in time is significant. Because this skill plan utilizes three neural remaps, you will want to create a new character rather than training an existing alt. If you are using an existing character, you might consider using the first and third neural remaps to train up support and ship skills as these are the most lengthy skill trains. If your existing character only has the annual remap, consider remapping for the ship skills section as that will be the longest train. The remaps are as follows:

  • Support skills: Intelligence-Memory
  • Navigation skills: Intelligence-Perception
  • Ship skills: Willpower-Perception

The skills are not all maxed, meaning that after you have trained into the ships you wish to fly you may wish to train certain skills further than this skill plan covers, especially the support and navigation skills.

The skill plan has also been optimized for the dopamine effect of hearing that a skill has completed training by organizing skills from shortest to longest train wherever possible.

Support skills

First remap: Remapping (active) : i27 p17 c17 w17 m21

Armor-tanked support skills

Gallente/Amarr
Expand this box to view a Skill queue to use in-game 

Jury Rigging I
Armor Layering I
Cloaking I
Industry II
Jury Rigging II
Armor Layering II
Cloaking II
Industry III
Jury Rigging III
Armor Layering III
Cloaking III
Industry IV
Hull Upgrades IV
Armor Layering IV
Explosive Armor Compensation I
EM Armor Compensation I
Kinetic Armor Compensation I
Thermal Armor Compensation I
Armor Rigging I
Astronautics Rigging I
EM Armor Compensation II
Thermal Armor Compensation II
Kinetic Armor Compensation II
Explosive Armor Compensation II
Astronautics Rigging II
Armor Rigging II
Explosive Armor Compensation III
Kinetic Armor Compensation III
Thermal Armor Compensation III
EM Armor Compensation III
Armor Rigging III
Astronautics Rigging III
Mechanics IV
Capacitor Systems Operation IV
EM Armor Compensation IV
Thermal Armor Compensation IV
Kinetic Armor Compensation IV
Explosive Armor Compensation IV
Capacitor Management IV
Astronautics Rigging IV
Armor Rigging IV
Industry V
Capacitor Systems Operation V
Cloaking IV
Capacitor Management V


Jury Rigging III (2x) 7 hours, 18 minutes, 2 seconds

Industry V (1x) 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds

Cloaking IV (6x) 5 days, 4 hour, 11 minutes

Armor Layering IV (3x) 2 days, 14 hours, 5 minutes, 30 seconds

Hull Upgrades IV (2x) 1 day, 9 hours, 6 minutes, 55 seconds

Explosive Armor Compensation IV (2x) 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds

EM Armor Compensation IV (2x) 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds

Thermal Armor Compensation IV (2x) 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds

Kinetic Armor Compensation IV (2x) 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds

Armor Rigging IV (3x) 2 days, 14 hours, 5 minutes, 30 seconds

Astronautics Rigging IV (3x) 2 days, 14 hours, 5 minutes, 30 seconds

Mechanics IV (1x) 20 hours, 41 minutes, 49 seconds

Capacitor Systems Operation V (1x) 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds

Capacitor Management V (3x) 14 days, 15 hours, 14 minutes, 30 seconds


Shield-tanked support skills

Caldari/Minmatar
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Shield Operation I
Jury Rigging I
Cloaking I
Shield Operation II
Shield Upgrades II
Industry II
Jury Rigging II
Tactical Shield Manipulation II
Cloaking II
Shield Operation III
Industry III
Jury Rigging III
Astronautics Rigging I
Shield Rigging I
Astronautics Rigging II
Shield Rigging II
Shield Upgrades III
Shield Rigging III
Astronautics Rigging III
Tactical Shield Manipulation III
Cloaking III
Shield Operation IV
Industry IV
Mechanics IV
Capacitor Systems Operation IV
Shield Upgrades IV
Capacitor Management IV
Tactical Shield Manipulation IV
Shield Rigging IV
Astronautics Rigging IV
Capacitor Management V
Industry V
Capacitor Systems Operation V


Jury Rigging III (2x) 7 hours, 18 minutes, 2 seconds

Industry V (1x) 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds

Cloaking IV (6x) 5 days, 4 hour, 11 minutes

Shield Operation IV (1x) 20 hours, 41 minutes, 49 seconds

Shield Upgrades IV (2x) 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds

Hull Upgrades IV (2x) 1 day, 9 hours, 6 minutes, 55 seconds

Explosive Shield Compensation IV (2x) 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds

EM Shield Compensation IV (2x) 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds

Thermal Shield Compensation IV (2x) 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds

Kinetic Shield Compensation IV (2x) 1 day, 17 hours, 23 minutes, 39 seconds

Shield Rigging IV (3x) 2 days, 14 hours, 5 minutes, 30 seconds

Astronautics Rigging IV (3x) 2 days, 14 hours, 5 minutes, 30 seconds

Tactical Shield Manipulation IV (4x) 2 days, 10 hours, 47 minutes, 19 seconds

Mechanics IV (1x) 20 hours, 41 minutes, 49 seconds

Capacitor Systems Operation V (1x) 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds

Capacitor Management V (3x) 14 days, 15 hours, 14 minutes, 30 seconds


Jump Freighter support skills

Only add this skill if you're planning to train Jump Freighters
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Science V


Science V (1x) 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds

Navigation

Second remap: Remapping (active) : i27 p21 c17 w17 m17

Navigation skills - Transport Ships/Freighter

Valid for all empire factions
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Acceleration Control I
Acceleration Control II
High Speed Maneuvering II
Warp Drive Operation III
Acceleration Control III
High Speed Maneuvering III
Warp Drive Operation IV
Acceleration Control IV
Navigation IV
High Speed Maneuvering IV
Warp Drive Operation V
Micro Jump Drive Operation I


Acceleration Control IV (4x) 3 days, 10 hours, 47 minutes, 19 seconds

Navigation IV (1x) 20 hours, 41 minutes, 49 seconds

High Speed Maneuvering IV (5x) 4 days, 7 hours, 29 minutes, 10 seconds

Warp Drive Operation V (1x) 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds

Micro Jump Drive Operation I (5x) 33 minutes, 20 seconds


Navigation skills - Jump Freighter

Only use this if you are planning to train into jump freighter
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Navigation IV
Navigation V
Warp Drive Operation III
Warp Drive Operation IV
Warp Drive Operation V
Jump Drive Operation I
Evasive Maneuvering II
High Speed Maneuvering II
Jump Drive Operation II
Evasive Maneuvering III
High Speed Maneuvering III
Jump Drive Operation III
High Speed Maneuvering IV
Jump Drive Operation IV
Evasive Maneuvering IV
Jump Drive Operation V
Micro Jump Drive Operation I
Jump Fuel Conservation I
Jump Drive Calibration I
Jump Fuel Conservation II
Jump Drive Calibration II
Jump Fuel Conservation III
Jump Drive Calibration III
Jump Fuel Conservation IV
Jump Drive Calibration IV
Jump Drive Calibration V


Acceleration Control IV (4x) 3 days, 10 hours, 47 minutes, 19 seconds

Navigation V (1x) 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds

High Speed Maneuvering IV (5x) 4 days, 7 hours, 29 minutes, 10 seconds

Warp Drive Operation V (1x) 4 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, 50 seconds

Micro Jump Drive Operation I (5x) 33 minutes, 20 seconds

Jump Drive Operation V (5x) 24 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes, 9 seconds

Jump Fuel Conservation IV (8x) 6 days, 21 hours, 34 minutes, 38 seconds

Jump Drive Calibration V (9x) 43 days, 21 hours, 43 minutes, 32 seconds

Ship skills

Third remap: Remapping (active) : i17 p27 c17 w21 m17

Amarr Transport Skills

Amarr DST/Blockade Runner
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Amarr Hauler I
Amarr Hauler II
Amarr Hauler III
Amarr Hauler IV
Amarr Hauler V
Transport Ships I
Transport Ships II
Transport Ships III
Transport Ships IV
Transport Ships V


Amarr Hauler V (4x) 19 days, 12 hours, 19 minutes, 20 seconds

Transport Ships V (6x) 29 days, 6 hours, 29 minutes


Gallente Transport Skills

Gallente DST/Blockade Runner
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Gallente Hauler I
Gallente Hauler II
Gallente Hauler III
Gallente Hauler IV
Gallente Hauler V
Transport Ships I
Transport Ships II
Transport Ships III
Transport Ships IV
Transport Ships V


Gallente Hauler V (4x) 19 days, 12 hours, 19 minutes, 20 seconds

Transport Ships V (6x) 29 days, 6 hours, 29 minutes


Minmatar Transport Skills

Minmatar DST/Blockade Runner
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Minmatar Hauler I
Minmatar Hauler II
Minmatar Hauler III
Minmatar Hauler IV
Minmatar Hauler V
Transport Ships I
Transport Ships II
Transport Ships III
Transport Ships IV
Transport Ships V


Minmatar Hauler V (4x) 19 days, 12 hours, 19 minutes, 20 seconds

Transport Ships V (6x) 29 days, 6 hours, 29 minutes


Caldari Transport Skills

Caldari DST/Blockade Runner
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Caldari Hauler I
Caldari Hauler II
Caldari Hauler III
Caldari Hauler IV
Caldari Hauler V
Transport Ships I
Transport Ships II
Transport Ships III
Transport Ships IV
Transport Ships V


Caldari Hauler V (4x) 19 days, 12 hours, 19 minutes, 20 seconds

Transport Ships V (6x) 29 days, 6 hours, 29 minutes


Caldari Freighter Skills

Charon
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Spaceship Command IV
Spaceship Command V
Advanced Spaceship Command I
Advanced Spaceship Command II
Advanced Spaceship Command III
Advanced Spaceship Command IV
Advanced Spaceship Command V
Caldari Freighter I
Caldari Freighter II
Caldari Freighter III
Caldari Freighter IV


Spaceship Command V (1x) 4 days, 21 hours, 49 seconds

Advanced Spaceship Command V (5x) 24 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes, 9 seconds

Caldari Freighter IV (10x) 8 days, 14 hours, 58 minutes, 17 seconds


Gallente Freighter Skills

Obelisk
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Spaceship Command IV
Spaceship Command V
Advanced Spaceship Command I
Advanced Spaceship Command II
Advanced Spaceship Command III
Advanced Spaceship Command IV
Advanced Spaceship Command V
Gallente Freighter I
Gallente Freighter II
Gallente Freighter III
Gallente Freighter IV


Spaceship Command V (1x) 4 days, 21 hours, 49 seconds

Advanced Spaceship Command V (5x) 24 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes, 9 seconds

Gallente Freighter IV (10x) 8 days, 14 hours, 58 minutes, 17 seconds


Amarr Freighter Skills

Providence
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Spaceship Command IV
Spaceship Command V
Advanced Spaceship Command I
Advanced Spaceship Command II
Advanced Spaceship Command III
Advanced Spaceship Command IV
Advanced Spaceship Command V
Amarr Freighter I
Amarr Freighter II
Amarr Freighter III
Amarr Freighter IV


Spaceship Command V (1x) 4 days, 21 hours, 49 seconds

Advanced Spaceship Command V (5x) 24 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes, 9 seconds

Amarr Freighter IV (10x) 8 days, 14 hours, 58 minutes, 17 seconds


Minmatar Freighter Skills

Fenrir
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Spaceship Command IV
Spaceship Command V
Advanced Spaceship Command I
Advanced Spaceship Command II
Advanced Spaceship Command III
Advanced Spaceship Command IV
Advanced Spaceship Command V
Minmatar Freighter I
Minmatar Freighter II
Minmatar Freighter III
Minmatar Freighter IV


Spaceship Command V (1x) 4 days, 21 hours, 49 seconds

Advanced Spaceship Command V (5x) 24 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes, 9 seconds

Minmatar Freighter IV (10x) 8 days, 14 hours, 58 minutes, 17 seconds


ORE Freighter Skills

Bowhead
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Spaceship Command IV
Spaceship Command V
ORE Hauler I
Advanced Spaceship Command I
ORE Hauler II
Advanced Spaceship Command II
ORE Hauler III
Advanced Spaceship Command III
Advanced Spaceship Command IV
Advanced Spaceship Command V
ORE Freighter I
ORE Freighter II
ORE Freighter III
ORE Freighter IV


Spaceship Command V (1x) 4 days, 21 hours, 49 seconds

Advanced Spaceship Command V (5x) 24 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes, 9 seconds

ORE Freighter IV (9x) 7 days, 18 hours, 16 minutes, 28 seconds


Jump Freighter Skills

Valid for all empire factions
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Jump Freighters I
Jump Freighters II
Jump Freighters III
Jump Freighters IV


Jump Freighters IV (14x) 12 days, 1 hour, 45 minutes, 36 seconds

Fitting haulers

Hauling ships can be fit in a few different ways. For DSTs, you can fit for extra cargo, tank, or align. For freighters, you can fit for extra cargo or extra tank. Generally speaking, you only want to replace what's necessary to carry the haul. The fits below are designed for tank with extra cargo in hold. Note that it is generally a good idea to keep the main hold of a DST solely for things the DST needs and the fleet hangar for cargo.

Deep Space Transports

These are fits that give you good tank somewhere between 70k-100k EHP.


Occator: EUNI Wiki Example Fit
EFT
[Occator, EUNI Wiki Example Fit]
Compact Interdiction Nullifier
Improved Cloaking Device II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Large Shield Extender II

Damage Control II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Federation Navy Explosive Coating
Federation Navy Explosive Coating
Federation Navy 400mm Steel Plates
Federation Navy Multispectrum Coating

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II



Core Probe Launcher I
Core Scanner Probe I x16
Expanded Cargohold II
Mobile Depot

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FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
2023.31.12
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
RECOMMENDED SKILLS
NOTES
  • Mobile depot, probes, and launcher are in case of getting lost in a wormhole.
Bustard: EUNI Wiki Example Fit
EFT
[Bustard, EUNI Wiki Example Fit]
Compact Interdiction Nullifier
Improved Cloaking Device II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
EM Shield Amplifier II
EM Shield Amplifier II
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender

Reactor Control Unit II
Damage Control II
Inertial Stabilizers II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II



Core Probe Launcher I
Core Scanner Probe I x16
Expanded Cargohold II x3
Mobile Depot

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FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
2023.31.12
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
RECOMMENDED SKILLS
NOTES
  • Mobile depot, probes, and launcher are in case of getting lost in a wormhole.


Impel: EUNI Wiki Example Fit
EFT
[Impel, EUNI Wiki Example Fit]
Compact Interdiction Nullifier
Improved Cloaking Device II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner

Damage Control II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Thermal Coating II
Thermal Coating II
EM Coating II
Reactive Armor Hardener

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II



Core Probe Launcher I
Core Scanner Probe I x16
Expanded Cargohold II
Mobile Depot

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FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
2023.31.12
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
RECOMMENDED SKILLS
NOTES
  • Mobile depot, probes, and launcher are in case of getting lost in a wormhole.
Mastodon: EUNI Wiki Example Fit
EFT
[Mastodon, EUNI Wiki Example Fit]
Compact Interdiction Nullifier
Improved Cloaking Device II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
Multispectrum Shield Hardener II
Kinetic Shield Amplifier II

Reactor Control Unit II
Damage Control II
Inertial Stabilizers II
Mark I Compact Reactor Control Unit

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II



Core Probe Launcher I
Core Scanner Probe I x16
Expanded Cargohold II x3
Mobile Depot

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FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
2023.31.12
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
RECOMMENDED SKILLS
NOTES
  • Mobile depot, probes, and launcher are in case of getting lost in a wormhole.


Freighters

Freighters are the easiest to fit. They have three low slots regardless of which empire you trained into. That's it. For tank, use Reinforced Bulkheads II. For extra cargo, use Expanded Cargohold IIs.


Obelisk: EUNI Wiki Example Fit
EFT
[Obelisk, EUNI Wiki Example Fit]


Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II



Expanded Cargohold II x3

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FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
2023.31.12
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
RECOMMENDED SKILLS
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Optimize with Giant Secure Containers

There are items called Giant Secure Containers (GSC) which take up 3,000  m3 in your cargo hold. The interesting thing is that you can put 3,900  m3 of stuff in a GSC - which means you get a 30% space bonus.

Notes:
  • Giant Secure Containers are great but with a minor limitation, they cannot store some goods like frozen food, or livestock. So keep this in mind if you are using these containers to haul goods.

Earning ISK via hauling

Earning ISK via hauling can be done both with players and NPCs. To make money hauling for players, try keeping an eye out for courier contracts in the in-game channel: Hauler's Channel. Just be mindful that people will sometimes try to use courier contracts to scam you.

You can also earn ISK hauling with Distribution missions. Be aware that L1 missions sometimes require combat and therefore if you're grinding standings, it may be worth reading mission guides to make sure you have what you need.

Credits

  • Raddick Tseng for suggesting this, and giving some interesting statistics.

See also

References

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