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== Solo mining ==

[[File:Hulk.jpg|thumb|The Hulk: sucking asteroid belts dry since 2003]]

There are several methods commonly used in mining, the most basic only requires one account and can be run by very low skilled players, while the most advanced will require multiple players all performing separate tasks in order to be effective.

=== Mining hold mining ===

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== Cooperative mining ==

[[File:Orca.jpg|thumb|The Orca: the easiest way to make yourself loved by miners.]]

Of the professions in EVE, mining and production are most impacted by the player’s efficiency. For miners, it’s all about mining. Time spent hauling, killing rats, moving cans, or dealing with ore thieves, can flippers, and other flavors of griefers is time not spent making little rocks out of big ‘roids. Anything that can be done to eliminate or minimize the impact of all of those other factors means more little rocks in the hold, which means a fatter wallet.

Properly designed and staffed co-operative [[Archive:Mining fleets|mining fleets]] allow miners to spend their time doing what they do best: mining. It also allows the miners to benefit from mining yield bonuses available only to members of a group. These bonuses can add an additional 10% or more to a miner’s yield. If the miners are mining, then someone has to haul the little rocks to the station. If the op is in [[System security#Low security|lower sec regions]], something other than drones may be needed to protect the miners from rats, not to mention thieves and assorted other scoundrels. Those protection activities will result in a second “mining” operation as the wrecks are looted and salvaged for the benefit of the op participants.

Our theoretical op has miners, haulers, damage dealers, and salvagers; a fairly broad slice of the possible professions in EVE! Mining ops are generally more relaxed than combat fleet ops, co-operative mission running or complex clearing. Chat and/or [[Mumble]] deal with a wider variety of topics and separating the required tasks to specialists provides everyone time to participate in the conversations. Not only does this atmosphere provide a social element of connection with the other members, but it also lets the "teaching" move beyond mining to cover a myriad of subjects.

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~~=== Mining booster fleets (BYOC) ===~~

The simplest mining fleet would be the equivalent of a [[Mission_Fleets#Spider_Fleet|spider mission fleet]], in that each miner does his/her own thing while being supplied with a [[Fleet Leadership#Booster Skills|fleet booster]] which will improve everyone's yield, miner range, miner cycle time, and/or miner capacitor use (note that boosters only work within the same system). These fleets are generally a "join and leave as you want" situation, with no extra services (eg hauling, protection from rats etc) provided. "BYOC" stands for "bring your own can", meaning it's your responsibility to bring the ore you mine to a station.

It's generally suggested that you avoid mining the same asteroid as another fleet member (as there is a risk that one of you wastes a mining cycle if the asteroid depletes halfway through), although if you ''really'' want that particular asteroid you can always ask nicely if you can have it. There is usually no central belt for everyone to be working on at once, but it can be a majestic sight to see a fleet of barges and exhumers emptying a belt efficiently.

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~~=== Mining fleets ===~~

A standard mining fleet in [[System security#High security|high security space]] generally includes a mix of mining barges, exhumers, and haulers. The miners will work on a single belt constantly and transfer the ore they mine into a jetcan. The haulers will ferry the resources from space to a station. This makes for increased proficiency as the mining lasers never need to stop unless you need to switch belts. Fleet boosters are usually present here as well, and an [[Orca]] may be used instead of a jetcan. Mining fleets in low-sec will also include combat ships to protect the fleet against rats and hostile players.

~~{{main|Mining Fleets}}~~

~~The next type of fleet is more structured.~~ A standard mining fleet in [[System security#High security|high security space]] generally includes a mix of mining barges, exhumers, and haulers. The miners will work on a single belt constantly and transfer the ore they mine into a jetcan. The haulers will ferry the resources from space to a station. This makes for increased proficiency as the mining lasers never need to stop unless you need to switch belts. Fleet boosters are usually present here as well, and an [[Orca]] may be used instead of a jetcan. Mining fleets in low-sec will also include combat ships to protect the fleet against rats and hostile players.

==== Splitting the ISK ====

=== Splitting the ISK ===

Since all the ore is combined into a single pot (and often refined and sold later), you need to agree on a method of splitting the proceeds from the mining fleet between the participants. Since a fleet often includes not only miners with different skill levels flying different ships, but also fleet boosters, haulers, combat ships etc, the simplest way to split the ISK proceeds is to allocate them based on time spent in the fleet; however, this might discourage larger ships from joining the fleet. [[Scrapyard's Mining Op Worksheet]] can accommodate several different methods of weighing the contributions of fleet members. Whichever way you choose, make sure that the method of splitting the ISK is agreed upon by the fleet before the mining op starts.

==== Mining fleets in the Uni ====

=== Mining fleets in the Uni ===

Periodically, the Uni will undertake a large-scale, long-duration mining operation. These expeditions are planned and announced several weeks in advance to allow for adjustment of training schedules, acquisition of desired ships and fittings, and research/scouting of the target system and surrounding space. Because of the travel involved and the length of planned stay, expedition locations generally provide opportunities for mission/complex running as well.

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Such fleets are often run to donate minerals to the University, with the added bonus of attempting to break the record for the previous donation fleet.

~~==== BYOC Booster Tipping ====~~

Mining ops are generally more relaxed than combat fleet ops, co-operative mission running or complex clearing. Chat and/or [[Mumble]] deal with a wider variety of topics and separating the required tasks to specialists provides everyone time to participate in the conversations. Not only does this atmosphere provide a social element of connection with the other members, but it also lets the "teaching" move beyond mining to cover a myriad of subjects.

~~Though not required, Historically it WAS polite to tip your~~ fleet ~~booster. However~~, ~~for 2022, this is not the method used for Uni anymore~~. ~~With Uni giving Boosters free Heavy Water~~ and ~~Charges, it is available at most Community stations, it is no longer an out of pocket cost for the Boosters.~~

~~Many public mining groups~~ or ~~organizations outside of EVE University may require tipping a booster or a new player may encounter situations where boosters ask for a tip. One should always use their best judgment and be wary of~~ [[~~Scams in EVE Online#Recruitment Scams|recruitment scams~~]] and ~~attempts~~ to ~~take advantage~~ of ~~miners. When in doubt ask others for advice if something seems suspicious~~.

== See also ==

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 == Solo mining ==
 [[File:Hulk.jpg|thumb|The Hulk: sucking asteroid belts dry since 2003]]
-There are several methods commonly used in mining, the most basic only requires one account and can be run by very low skilled players, while the most advanced will require multiple players all performing separate tasks in order to be effective.
 === Mining hold mining ===
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 == Cooperative mining ==
+{{main|Mining Fleets}}
 [[File:Orca.jpg|thumb|The Orca: the easiest way to make yourself loved by miners.]]
-Of the professions in EVE, mining and production are most impacted by the player’s efficiency. For miners, it’s all about mining. Time spent hauling, killing rats, moving cans, or dealing with ore thieves, can flippers, and other flavors of griefers is time not spent making little rocks out of big ‘roids. Anything that can be done to eliminate or minimize the impact of all of those other factors means more little rocks in the hold, which means a fatter wallet.
-Properly designed and staffed co-operative [[Archive:Mining fleets|mining fleets]] allow miners to spend their time doing what they do best: mining. It also allows the miners to benefit from mining yield bonuses available only to members of a group. These bonuses can add an additional 10% or more to a miner’s yield. If the miners are mining, then someone has to haul the little rocks to the station. If the op is in [[System security#Low security|lower sec regions]], something other than drones may be needed to protect the miners from rats, not to mention thieves and assorted other scoundrels. Those protection activities will result in a second “mining” operation as the wrecks are looted and salvaged for the benefit of the op participants.
-Our theoretical op has miners, haulers, damage dealers, and salvagers; a fairly broad slice of the possible professions in EVE! Mining ops are generally more relaxed than combat fleet ops, co-operative mission running or complex clearing. Chat and/or [[Mumble]] deal with a wider variety of topics and separating the required tasks to specialists provides everyone time to participate in the conversations. Not only does this atmosphere provide a social element of connection with the other members, but it also lets the "teaching" move beyond mining to cover a myriad of subjects.
-<!-- (Commenting out BYOC fleets, as these don't really work the same way after the fleet boosting changes.)
-=== Mining booster fleets (BYOC)  ===
-The simplest mining fleet would be the equivalent of a [[Mission_Fleets#Spider_Fleet|spider mission fleet]], in that each miner does his/her own thing while being supplied with a [[Fleet Leadership#Booster Skills|fleet booster]] which will improve everyone's yield, miner range, miner cycle time, and/or miner capacitor use (note that boosters only work within the same system). These fleets are generally a "join and leave as you want" situation, with no extra services (eg hauling, protection from rats etc) provided. "BYOC" stands for "bring your own can", meaning it's your responsibility to bring the ore you mine to a station.
-It's generally suggested that you avoid mining the same asteroid as another fleet member (as there is a risk that one of you wastes a mining cycle if the asteroid depletes halfway through), although if you ''really'' want that particular asteroid you can always ask nicely if you can have it. There is usually no central belt for everyone to be working on at once, but it can be a majestic sight to see a fleet of barges and exhumers emptying a belt efficiently.
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-=== Mining fleets ===
+A standard mining fleet in [[System security#High security|high security space]] generally includes a mix of mining barges, exhumers, and haulers. The miners will work on a single belt constantly and transfer the ore they mine into a jetcan. The haulers will ferry the resources from space to a station. This makes for increased proficiency as the mining lasers never need to stop unless you need to switch belts. Fleet boosters are usually present here as well, and an [[Orca]] may be used instead of a jetcan. Mining fleets in low-sec will also include combat ships to protect the fleet against rats and hostile players.
-{{main|Mining Fleets}}
-The next type of fleet is more structured. A standard mining fleet in [[System security#High security|high security space]] generally includes a mix of mining barges, exhumers, and haulers. The miners will work on a single belt constantly and transfer the ore they mine into a jetcan. The haulers will ferry the resources from space to a station. This makes for increased proficiency as the mining lasers never need to stop unless you need to switch belts. Fleet boosters are usually present here as well, and an [[Orca]] may be used instead of a jetcan. Mining fleets in low-sec will also include combat ships to protect the fleet against rats and hostile players.
-==== Splitting the ISK ====
+=== Splitting the ISK ===
 Since all the ore is combined into a single pot (and often refined and sold later), you need to agree on a method of splitting the proceeds from the mining fleet between the participants. Since a fleet often includes not only miners with different skill levels flying different ships, but also fleet boosters, haulers, combat ships etc, the simplest way to split the ISK proceeds is to allocate them based on time spent in the fleet; however, this might discourage larger ships from joining the fleet. [[Scrapyard's Mining Op Worksheet]] can accommodate several different methods of weighing the contributions of fleet members. Whichever way you choose, make sure that the method of splitting the ISK is agreed upon by the fleet before the mining op starts.
-==== Mining fleets in the Uni ====
+=== Mining fleets in the Uni ===
 Periodically, the Uni will undertake a large-scale, long-duration mining operation. These expeditions are planned and announced several weeks in advance to allow for adjustment of training schedules, acquisition of desired ships and fittings, and research/scouting of the target system and surrounding space. Because of the travel involved and the length of planned stay, expedition locations generally provide opportunities for mission/complex running as well.
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 Such fleets are often run to donate minerals to the University, with the added bonus of attempting to break the record for the previous donation fleet.
-==== BYOC Booster Tipping ====
+Mining ops are generally more relaxed than combat fleet ops, co-operative mission running or complex clearing. Chat and/or [[Mumble]] deal with a wider variety of topics and separating the required tasks to specialists provides everyone time to participate in the conversations. Not only does this atmosphere provide a social element of connection with the other members, but it also lets the "teaching" move beyond mining to cover a myriad of subjects.
-Though not required, Historically it WAS polite to tip your fleet booster. However, for 2022, this is not the method used for Uni anymore. With Uni giving Boosters free Heavy Water and Charges, it is available at most Community stations, it is no longer an out of pocket cost for the Boosters.
-Many public mining groups or organizations outside of EVE University may require tipping a booster or a new player may encounter situations where boosters ask for a tip. One should always use their best judgment and be wary of [[Scams in EVE Online#Recruitment Scams|recruitment scams]] and attempts to take advantage of miners. When in doubt ask others for advice if something seems suspicious.
 == See also ==