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|Welcome to EVE Online. If you are not busy looking for ways to kill, harass, or at least mildly inconvenience another player, you got a lot of catching up to do.<br>
|Welcome to EVE Online. If you are not busy looking for ways to kill, harass, or at least mildly inconvenience another player, you got a lot of catching up to do.<br>
Remember: Hi-sec is safer, not safe.<br>
Remember: Hi-sec is safer, not safe.<br>
CONCORD provides consequences, not security.<br>
[[CONCORD]] provides consequences, not security.<br>
EVE Online provides a "PVP FLAG" button. It's labelled and known as the "Undock" button.<br>
EVE Online provides a "PVP FLAG" button. It's labelled and known as the "Undock" button.<br>
EVE Online is, at its core, a (non-consensual) PVP game.
EVE Online is, at its core, a (non-consensual) PVP game.
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So let's make it clear: it's dangerous in New Eden! And it's particularly dangerous for unwary Unistas when the Uni is at war! <br>
New Eden can be a dangerous place. [[EVE University]] is rarely [[Corporation diplomacy#Wars|at war]] now, however if that does happen, enemies ("war targets", "WTs") can engage University pilots without consequences in high-security space.
You may get attacked and lose ships until you find your feet in the game. <br>
If that happens, do not feel disheartened; speak to us, and we will help you! <br>
Remember, you are not your ship. You are an immortal capsuleer, and you will never die!


This page explains things you can do to avoid losses to war targets. It is a super-basic guide which tries to get you up to speed with key tools immediately. You will learn much more, in much more detail, as you grow more experienced in EVE.


'''However, there ARE things that you can do to help you ''Avoid Losses to War Targets (WT's)'''''
You may get attacked and lose ships until you find your feet. If that happens, do not feel disheartened. Remember: you are not your ship, you are an immortal capsuleer, and you will never die!


== The basics ==


'''This is a super-basic guide to get you started, and you will learn a lot more, and in a lot more detail as you go along!'''
''Before undocking in wartime, you should:''
 
* '''Be in a fleet!'''. You ''can'' fly solo or be in a fleet by yourself, but we advise against it. Join the HSC Standing Fleet (see [[#Finding and joining a community standing fleet|"Finding and joining a community standing fleet"]] for more information) or a specific fleet that's going on (for example, a mining, missioning or PvP fleet)
== The basics ==
* '''Be on [[Mumble]]!''' Jump into HSC Mumble channel (Or else the Mumble channel for the specific fleet. If it isn't in the Message of the Day in the fleet chat, ask!)
**IMPORTANT: Choose where you ask questions in game chats wisely! For example, don't say "I'm in Scheenins, about to leave for Amygnon; can anybody tell me if it's safe?" in the chat channel EVE University (EVE Uni), as you're advertising both your location and your inexperience in a public (and therefore unsafe) chat!
* '''Check the members of 'Local chat'!'''. Local chat lists everybody who is online in the same system as you, which is very useful to know! (More info on Local follows below.)


''Before undocking, you should:''
* '''Be in a fleet!'''. You ''can'' fly solo or be in a fleet by yourself but we do not advise it. Join the HSC Standing Fleet (See what it is and 'How to find (and join) a Campus Standing Fleet' at the bottom of this post) or a specific fleet that's going on (for example, a mining, missioning or PvP fleet)
* '''Be on Mumble!''' Jump into HSC mumble (or the comms channel for the specific fleet. If it isn't in the Message of the Day in the fleet chat, ask!)
**IMPORTANT: Choose where you ask questions in game chats wisely! For example, don't say "I'm in Scheenins, about to leave for Amygnon; can anybody tell me if it's safe?" in EVE University (EVE Uni), as you're advertising both your location and your inexperience in a public (and therefore unsafe) chat!
* '''Check 'local chat'!'''. Local chat lists everybody who is online in the same system as you, which is very useful to know! You will see more info on Local Chat below! <br>
''War target icon:''
''War target icon:''
* '''The war target ''' icon is a <span class="flashy">{{icon|tag war|9}}</span> red box with a white star in it (blinking if you have used [[Installing the EVE University Overview]]). Not to be confused with the {{icon|tag -10|9}} '''Terrible standing''' (-10) and {{icon|tag -5|9}} '''Bad standing''' (-5) icons or the <span class="flashy">{{icon|tag criminal|9}}</span> '''Criminal''', <span class="flashy">{{icon|tag suspect|9}}</span> '''Suspect''' or {{icon|tag outlaw|9}} [[Security status#Outlaw|Outlaw]] tags.  
* '''The war target ''' icon is a <span class="flashy">{{icon|tag war|9}}</span> red box with a white star in it (blinking if you have used [[Installing the EVE University Overview]]). Not to be confused with the {{icon|tag -10|9}} '''Terrible standing''' (-10) and {{icon|tag -5|9}} '''Bad standing''' (-5) icons or the <span class="flashy">{{icon|tag criminal|9}}</span> '''Criminal''', <span class="flashy">{{icon|tag suspect|9}}</span> '''Suspect''' or {{icon|tag outlaw|9}} [[Outlaw]] tags.  


''After undocking, you should '''also''':''


 
* '''[[D-scan]]''' regularly and often. (See below for how to use D-Scan, and why it's helpful.)  
''After undocking, you should ALSO:''
Particularly if you're doing missions or mining, D-scanning regularly can alert you possible dangers. In PvP, it can find you nasties to shoot.
 
* '''D-scan.''' Regularly and often. (see below for how to use D-Scan, and why it's helpful)  
Particularly if you're doing missions or mining, D-scanning regularly can alert you possible dangers. In PvP, it can find you nasties to shoot at :D
 


=== Extra tips ===
=== Extra tips ===


* '''BE PREPARED!''' Even the most cautious pilots can lose ships to WT's, so in case the worst happens, learn what to do to [[Pod saving|save your Pod]].
* '''BE PREPARED!''' Even the most cautious pilots can lose ships to WT's, so in case the worst happens, learn what to do to [[Pod saving|save your pod]].


* '''Make an  OOC (Out Of Corp) Alt Hauler.''' Seriously, don't use your main. Use an OOC Alt. An alt can fly their racial hauling ship immediately. See: [[Creating an Alt Hauler]].
* '''Make an  OOC (Out Of Corp) Alt Hauler.''' Seriously, don't use your main. Use an OOC Alt. An alt can fly their racial hauling ship immediately. See [[Creating an Alt Hauler]].


* Also, ''do not'' travel to the Trade Hubs (ie: Dodixie, Jita) on your main, as many WT's camp these systems (and commonly used routes between them and our Campuses) looking for easy kills!
* Also, ''do not'' travel to the [[trade hubs]] (e.g. Dodixie, Jita) on your main, as many WTs camp these systems (and commonly used routes between them and our communities) looking for easy kills!
      
      
* Do not go AFK in space. You should not be AFK in space, period.
* Do not go AFK in space. You should not be AFK in space, period.
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=== Summary ===
=== Summary ===
E-Uni is often at war. This doesn't mean you have to stay docked up:
E-Uni is often at war. This doesn't mean you have to stay docked up:
* Be smart. Think. Use your resources (Mumble, D-scan, local, etc..). Don't take anything for granted.
* Be smart. Think. Use your resources (Mumble, D-scan, Local, etc.). Take nothing for granted.
** This advice actually applies AT ALL TIMES in EVE, as even when not at war, you are never 100% 'safe'!
** This advice actually applies '''at all times''' in EVE, as even when not at war, you are never 100% safe!
** You just need to learn how to spot trouble and avoid it (reading this is a very good start!)
** You just need to learn how to spot trouble and avoid it (reading this page is a very good start!).
* If you see a WT in local/a report of a WT in the next system/combat probes on D-scan, ''JUST DOCK.''<!--[/color]--> If you think you can stay on grid for a few more seconds, ''you are wrong''. You WILL die. Soon or later, they will catch you. Sooner or later! :D
* If you see a WT in local/a report of a WT in the next system/combat probes on D-scan, ''JUST DOCK.'' If you think you can stay on grid for a few more seconds, ''you are wrong''. You WILL die. Soon or later, they will catch you. Sooner or later!
* Again... Mumble. Local, D-scan.
* Again... Mumble. Local, D-scan.
* Don't rely on any one thing to keep you safe.[/color] Being operationally aware is the best defense...and accept that {{Co|#BFFFFF|''getting killed is part of the game--not the end of it''}}.
* Don't rely on any one thing to keep you safe. Being operationally aware is the best defense… and it's worth accepting that {{Co|#BFFFFF|getting killed is ''part'' of the game—not the end of it}}.


*There's no such thing as "SAFE" in EVE. There is "less dangerous", though.
*There's no such thing as "safe" in EVE. But there is "less dangerous".


'''Unsure about anything in this post? ''Ask!'' In Mumble, in HSC (EVE Uni) chat, in General (EVE Uni), in Discord.... Remember, there ARE no stupid questions!''' <br>
'''Unsure about anything in this post? ''Ask!'' In Mumble, in HSC (EVE Uni) chat, in General (EVE Uni), in Discord.... Remember, there are no stupid questions!'''


== Fighting war targets ==
== Fighting war targets ==
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* Try to be in systems with just a few people in local when possible. It's easier to keep an eye in Local and to watch your D-scan (see below)
* Try to be in systems with just a few people in local when possible. It's easier to keep an eye in Local and to watch your D-scan (see below)
* When that WT shows up on your local chat, just dock up. Immediately.<br>
* When that WT shows up on your local chat, just dock up. Immediately.


This is how you recognise a WT in Local:
This is how you recognise a WT in Local:
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=== D-scan ===
=== D-scan ===
 
{{Main|Directional scanning}}
* Just because you are not actively PvPing, doesn't mean you shouldn't use D-SCAN. You should. Even if you are doing PvE.<br>
* Just because you are not actively PvPing, doesn't mean you shouldn't use D-SCAN. You should. Even if you are doing PvE.
* ALWAYS D-scan. Maximum range, 360º degrees. Even if you don't see a WT in Local.<br>
* ALWAYS D-scan. Maximum range, 360º degrees. Even if you don't see a WT in Local.
* Don't know how to D-Scan? Read about it [[Directional scanning|HERE]] (for the basics) and [[Directional Scanning 102|HERE (D-scan 102)]].
* Don't know how to D-Scan? Read about it [[Directional scanning|HERE]]


==== D-scan FAQ ====
==== D-scan FAQ ====
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* ''Q: But I'm in a PvE site. How can they find me?''
* ''Q: But I'm in a PvE site. How can they find me?''
** A: Combat Probes.
** A: Combat Probes.
That WT's Alt could be scanning you down with combat probes. So if you see combat probes on D-Scan, warp out and dock. Immediately! <br>
That WT's Alt could be scanning you down with combat probes. So if you see combat probes on D-Scan, warp out and dock. Immediately!
(People can use combat probes to scan you down and find you. Then they can warp right to you and start shooting!)
(People can use combat probes to scan you down and find you. Then they can warp right to you and start shooting!)
* ''Q: Why should I be afraid of combat probes if a WT is not in the system or reported in nearby systems?''
* ''Q: Why should I be afraid of combat probes if a WT is not in the system or reported in nearby systems?''
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=== Bookmarks ===
=== Bookmarks ===
 
{{Main|Bookmarks}}
* Learn all about bookmarking [[Bookmarks| HERE]] if you don't know what I mean!
* Learn all about bookmarking [[Bookmarks| HERE]] if you don't know what I mean!
* Create insta docks/undocks for each station you use often (like campus stations, trade hubs, mission hubs, etc).
* Create insta docks/undocks for each station you use often (like community stations, trade hubs, mission hubs, etc).
* If a WT comes in local they might warp to a station and sit outside it to gank people on the way in, so you want to have an insta-dock to be able to safely dock (based on the advice that if you see a WT join local you should dock up right away).
* If a WT comes in local they might warp to a station and sit outside it to gank people on the way in, so you want to have an insta-dock to be able to safely dock (based on the advice that if you see a WT join local you should dock up right away).
* You will also want to create *safes* and *tactical bookmarks*. I know this may seem over-paranoid or overly complicated right now, but one day you WILL be glad you took the time to learn and create all these bookmarks! Honest!
* You will also want to create *safes* and *tactical bookmarks*. I know this may seem over-paranoid or overly complicated right now, but one day you WILL be glad you took the time to learn and create all these bookmarks! Honest!
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== Finding and joining a campus standing fleet ==
== Finding and joining a community standing fleet ==


What IS a Standing Fleet:
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[blockquote]A Standing Fleet is a local fleet and aims to provide better communication between pilots within the same area of space. It can help provide a quick response if a member capsuleer is in distress and a defensive force if the campus is subjected to hostile action. Each member of the fleet can freely do their solo or group tasks such as PvE, Mining, PvP or Trading, since there is no specific purpose of the standing fleet itself, but in times of emergency, fleet is transformed into Quick Response Fleet in order to defend a fellow capsuleer, to repel any hostile entity and to defend the space and assets of the EVE University.[/blockquote]
|A Standing Fleet is a local fleet and aims to provide better communication between pilots within the same area of space. It can help provide a quick response if a member capsuleer is in distress and a defensive force if the community is subjected to hostile action. Each member of the fleet can freely do their solo or group tasks such as PvE, Mining, PvP or Trading, since there is no specific purpose of the standing fleet itself, but in times of emergency, fleet is transformed into Quick Response Fleet in order to defend a fellow capsuleer, to repel any hostile entity and to defend the space and assets of the EVE University. }} <!-- Does this really have to be so formal? I'm not sure what it adds. —Ury -->
*Go to your Neocom and find the Fleet icon
*Drag it onto your main Neocom for easy access.
*Click it and the Fleet Finder box will pop up.
*In the *Scope* drop-down menu, choose *My Corp Fleets*
*You should see several Fleets, such as *Stacmon Standing Fleet* or *Amygnon Standing Fleet*
*Right click on the Fleet and hit *Join Fleet*. Fleet Boss will accept you.
*Say hello. :)
*Do not be afraid to say if you are new to game and/or Fleets etc. We've all been there and most of us are very happy to help a newbro along :)


*If you can't find your Fleet tab, or can't see a standing fleet, ask in comms or Stacmon (EVE Uni) chat
* Go to your Neocom and find the Fleet icon
Learn more about standing fleets and their set-up [[Standing Fleet|HERE]] <br>
* Drag it onto your main Neocom for easy access.
* Click it, and the Fleet Finder box will pop up.
* In the *Scope* drop-down menu, choose *My Corp Fleets*
* You should see several Fleets
* Right click on the Fleet and hit *Join Fleet*. The Fleet Boss will accept you.
* Say hello.
* Do not be afraid to say if you are new to game and/or Fleets etc. We've all been there and most of us are very happy to help a new player along.
 
Learn more about standing fleets and their set-up on the [[Standing Fleet|standing fleet page]].


This can all be a little confusing initially, but feel free to ask your corpmates; there will always be someone willing to help you get the hang of it!
This can all be a little confusing initially, but feel free to ask your corpmates; there will always be someone willing to help you get the hang of it!
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