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== Why is it useful?  ==
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'''[https://www.mumble.info/ Mumble]''' is a third-party VOIP (Voice Over Internet Protocol) application that allows people to communicate verbally both in- and out-of-game.
  
Mumble is mostly used in two situations: PvP and Classes. In PvP it is very useful because, for example, it is faster to call out a primary target than to type it, especially with PvP related lag. In classes it is great as well because we do not want our poor instructors getting Carpal Tunnel Syndrome from typing everything. In effect, it is just a lot easier and faster than typing.  
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Our Mumble authentication for Members and Guests is handled through Alliance Auth.
  
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== Accessing Mumble ==
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Navigate to https://auth.eveuniversity.org/ and sign in using EVE Online SSO - For access to base systems you will only be asked for public scopes:
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# Select Services from the toolbar on the left hand side of the screen
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# Select the amber tick at the end of the mumble row and you will see your username and password
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# Select continue
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# Click on the Green arrow ''Connect'' button to automatically connect to Mumble
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# Enter your Mumble password if prompted
  
== Mumble Quick Connect Guide  ==
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After you've successfully connected, you can easily save the server settings in your Mumble Desktop client to reconnect easily in the future.
  
At EVE University we have two separate mumble servers. We have a public server accessible by anyone; this is used for classes, Q&As, and the occasional CSM Town Hall. We also have a private mumble server accessible only by E-UNI members and alumni; this is used for all other E-UNI business - fleets, campuses, etc. Most E-UNI activities use the private server, only classes and Q&As use the public server.
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'''Using the Mumble Desktop Client:'''
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# Click on ''Server'' > ''Connect'' > ''Add New''
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# Click on the ''Fill'' button to automatically fill in the server details
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# You can modify the Label to anything you like, or just leave it as the default
  
The set-up instructions for each are as follows:
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'''If you are still having problems getting connected, try following the [[#Manual Connection Instructions|manual instructions]] below setup the connection.'''
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=== Manual connection instructions ===
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After setting up your Mumble account through Alliance Auth in the steps above. You can try using these steps to setup a connection to the '''EVE University Mumble''' server if the Green '''Connect''' button isn't working for you.
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'''Using the Mumble Desktop Client:'''
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# Click on ''Server'' > ''Connect'' > ''Add New''
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# Enter the '''EVE University Mumble''' details below then click ''OK''
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# Select ''EVE University Mumble'' in the list then click ''Connect''
  
#Download Mumble from [http://wiki.mumble.info http://wiki.mumble.info]. Versions for many different operating systems are available.
 
#Install and set it up - starting Mumble for the first time will start two wizards, for certificates and audio tuning. See the [http://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/FAQ FAQ] if you have any issues.
 
#You must set a push-to-talk key - do not use voice activation.
 
#Click on ''Server > Connect > Add New...'' and create two servers using the details below:
 
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
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|- style="background: #222222;"
! style="width: 120px;background:#222222;" |
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! style="width: 120px;" colspan="2" | EVE University Mumble
! style="width: 250px;background:#222222;" | Private Server
 
! style="width: 250px;background:#222222;" | Public Server
 
|- style="background:#222222;"
 
| Purpose: || Fleets, chatting, campuses, general purpose || Public classes, Q&As
 
 
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| Servername: || '''EVE University''' || '''EVE University (Public)'''
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| Address || '''mumble.eveuniversity.org'''  
 
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| Address: || colspan="2" | '''voice.eveuniversity.org'''  
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| Port || '''64738''' ''(default)''
 
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| Port: || '''64738''' ''(default)'' || '''64739'''
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| Username || ''<Your Alliance Auth username, i.e: Example_Member>''
 
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| Username || colspan="2" | ''<Your forum username, i.e: your character name>''
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| Password (only when prompted) || ''<Your Mumble password>''
 
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| Password (only when prompted): || ''<Your forum password>'' || ''<None - you won't be prompted>''
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| Label || EVE University Mumble
 
|}
 
|}
  
A more detailed guide to set-up and troubleshooting is below, along with how to get the overlay to work.
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Your Alliance Auth username is normally your character name with spaces replaced by underscores. (i.e. Example Member is Example_Member) If you're uncertain, you can see your current username for Mumble on the Alliance Auth [https://auth.eveuniversity.org/services Services] page.
  
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If you cannot remember your Mumble password, go back to the [https://auth.eveuniversity.org/services Services] page where you can set a new password using the amber pencil icon or create a new random password using the gray refresh, or circular arrows, icon.
  
== Setting up Mumble<br>  ==
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If you're still unable to connect to our Mumble server after trying these steps, feel free to reach out for support in '''#alliance-auth''' channel on the [[Discord|EVE University Discord]].
  
=== Audio Tuning Wizard  ===
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== Initial configuration ==
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=== Push to talk ===
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There is nothing more annoying than hearing other people type or breathe into their microphone constantly. If you leave push-to-talk off during a fleet op then you are likely to have some very frustrated Corp mates. This is why push to talk is mandatory. To turn on push to talk for Mumble, follow these steps.
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# Open up Mumble
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# Click the “Configure” option at the top, then click settings
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# You should now be in the Audio Input settings area, under the Transmission area make sure the Transmit drop down box is set to “Push to Talk”
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# Now you need to assign a key that you will need to press so others can hear you. To do this click the “Shortcuts” button on the left hand side of the Settings dialog box.
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# There should be a listing there labeled “Push-to-Talk”, click on the Shortcut column and press the key that you wish to be your push to talk key.
  
When you run Mumble the first time, an Audio Tuning Wizard is presented to you. If you skip or miss it on the first run you can retake the wizard by clicking Configure &gt; Audio Wizard. It is recommended you go through it carefully, since setting up Mumble correctly will make your and everyone else's life much easier (going through the Audio Tuning Wizard properly will also normalise everyone's voices, such that everyone will sound the same volume regardless of how they have their microphone set up).&nbsp; However there are two things I would like to highlight:
 
  
==== Push-to-talk  ====
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{{Note box|
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Linux users using the Wayland desktop manager are not currently able to configure global hotkeys in Mumble. This is a known bug as of 2022, with no prospect of being fixed, outside of either a) using an older desktop manager (which is running out of community support) or b) using a specific desktop compositor that allows you to set keybinds via a config file. Both are really janky workarounds that shouldn't be recommended.
  
[[Image:MumbleWizardPTT.png]]
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Mumble audio still works, you just can't transmit with PTT. Per Intake, this is acceptable - just 'avoid taking special roles that require
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communication via voice'.
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When you reach a screen that looks like the one above select the top radio button, click on the box on the same line and press the key you you want to use as the push-to-talk key.This is your ''normal'' push-to-talk key; for certain Fleet roles you may need more than one (see the comments in the Fleet channels), but for general E-UNI activity one is sufficient.<br>
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=== Whisper key ===
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Some of our mumble rooms, most notably the fleet and general lounge channels are linked to other channels. The purpose of these sub channels is to give the group within the option to talk to each other without all of the linked channels being able to hear it.  
  
==== Text-to-speech  ====
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For example the commander of the logistics group can now talk to only the Logistic pilots without confusing everyone else.
  
[[Image:MumbleWizardTextToSpeech.png]]
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A whisper key allows you to talk to just your current channel instead of broadcasting your voice to all of the linked channels.
  
When you reach a screen that looks like the one above I recommend you disable the text to speech notifications.  
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You should already see your existing push-to-talk key set up.  It's a good idea to check the Suppress box on any shortcuts, as that will prevent other applications from recognizing your key and performing unforeseen tasks you had not expected (e.g. warp scrambling stargates).
  
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==== Setting up your whisper key ====
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# Click the Add button in the bottom left, which will bring up a new Unassigned shortcut in the window.
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# Click the word Unassigned and select Whisper/Shout from the drop-down list.
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# Click the word Empty next to it, which should cause a [...] button to appear next to that - click that [...] button to open a new Whisper Target window.
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# Select the Shout to Channel box, and check that “Current channel” is highlighted, and then click OK.
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# Finally click the Shortcut column of your new shortcut and press the key you wish to use.
  
=== Connecting to the EVE University Server  ===
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You now have your Whisper chat key setup!
  
Once Mumble is all set up and you have run through the Audio Tuning Wizard, you will want to connect to the EVE University server.&nbsp; <br>
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By default you should always use a Whisper Key to chat in EVE University Mumble channels.
  
#Go to Server in the toolbar --&gt; Connect.<br>
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=== Notifications ===
#Click the Add New... button in the bottom right.<br>
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Go to Configure > Settings... > Messages. From there you can disable popup and sound notifications about events you don't care about. By default Mumble makes a loud PING and gives you a notification popup for almost any event on the server - this gets annoying pretty fast.
#Put anything you like in the Label box ("''EVE University''" seems sensible), the Address box needs to be <font color="yellow">'''voice.eveuniversity.org'''</font> and the Port needs to be left as default (<font color="yellow">'''64738'''</font>).<br>
 
#The Username box needs to be <u>your exact E-UNI forum username</u>, which also happens to be <u>your exact character name</u>.<br>
 
#Click the Connect button.<br>  
 
#The server will reject your connection, and prompt you with a Wrong Password box.&nbsp; You need to use your forum password (i.e. the same password you chose when you registered for our forums) in the box, then click OK. Please note that if you just recently created your Forum account or changed your Forum password, then it will take a few hours to update before Mumble recognizes your password.<br>
 
#Try again after a few hours and you will be connected to the Mumble server, which will have moved you into the Public Lounge channel.<br><br>
 
  
=== Connecting to the Public EVE University Server ===
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Mac version: From the Mumble --> Preferences window (make sure the 'Advanced' checkbox in the upper right is checked), select the 'Messages' tab. The only way to eliminate audio notifications is to uncheck items in the 'Soundfile' column.
  
Most of the classes are held on the Public Mumble server in order to provide knowledge to the whole EVE community. The procedures for connecting to the public server are exactly the same as the procedures for connecting to the normal EVE Uni server (connect to server  <font color="yellow">'''voice.eveuniversity.org'''</font>), however you must input <font color=yellow>'''64739'''</font> as your port instead of 64738. You will not be prompted for a password.
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=== Overlay ===
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It can be useful to have the Mumble Overlay set up for fleet operations as it eliminates the need for checking the Mumble client to see who is talking. See the [[Mumble Overlay]] for a step-by-step guide.
  
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== Chat policies ==
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Please remember that our [[Communications Policy]] applies in the Uni Mumble. Moderation can include muting and/or banning. Note that this can severely affect your participation in fleets, classes, and other activities.
  
To check your microphone is working and to hear what you sound like to other people, you can use the Comm Check channel at the top of the channel list.  
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== Channel rules & access ==
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Mumble is currently set up in the following configuration:
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* '''General Lounges''' - Two channels,  one for members and one for the public.  A general hangout space for everyone
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* '''Classrooms''' - Open to everyone who joins mumble and used by the Teachers to run classes
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* '''Public Fleets''' - Open to everyone for public roams and fleets (EVE Uni Comms Policy still applies)
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* '''Uni Fleets''' - Restricted to Uni Members for Uni only roams/fleets or QRF’s
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* '''Standing Fleets''' - Be in standing fleet and in here if your just hanging out around our staging areas
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* '''Special Interest Groups''' - Rooms to allow members to connect your content and interests no matter which area of space the operate in
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* '''On Demand Channels''' - Anyone in EVE Uni can create temporary channels here if there is no suitable channel for their needs.
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* '''Staff Offices''' - Restricted to EVE University Officers and Management
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* '''AFK & Idle Room''' - If you're muting your speakers anyways, idle here
  
#Right-click the Comm Check channel and select Join to switch to it.
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== Moderation ==
#Wait for your Echo to also join the channel.
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Any of our officers, managers or directors are able to moderate our mumble server.
#Depress your push-to-talk key.
 
#Talk.
 
#Release your push-to-talk key.
 
#2 seconds after you release your PTT key, your Echo will repeat what you said back to you.
 
  
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== Note for MacOS users ==
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When updating or reinstalling Mumble on MacOS, it is necessary to go into System Preferences > Privacy & Security > Privacy
=== Notifications  ===
 
  
In the Configure --&gt; Settings screen you can find Advanced settings checkbox in the bottom left corner. With it checked you can access the Messages settings. From there you can disable popup and sound notifications about events you don't care about.&nbsp; By default Mumble makes a loud PING and gives you a notification popup for almost any event on the server - this gets annoying pretty fast.  
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For BOTH the "Accessibility" AND "Input Monitoring" lists: Remove Mumble from the list, then re-add Mumble to the list by clicking-and-dragging the NEW Mumble application from the "Applications" folder to the list.
  
Mac version: From the Mumble --&gt; Preferences window (make sure the 'Advanced' checkbox in the upper right is checked), select the 'Messages' tab.  The only way to eliminate audio notifications is to uncheck items in the 'Soundfile' column.
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If installing Mumble for the first time ever (on a given Macintosh), then just add Mumble to these two lists.
  
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Forgetting to do this when installing, reinstalling, or updating Mumble will result in Mumble being unable to detect keyboard inputs for Push-To-Talk and Whisper/Shout features.
  
=== Other Interesting Features<br> ===
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=== Warning ===
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Do <em>NOT</em> upgrade from mumble <=1.3.x to 1.5.x+<ref>https://www.mumble.info/downloads/</ref>. If you accidentally did upgrade, follow these steps to recover:
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# When referring to delete, that is dragging app, file or folder icon to trash can or using Command-Delete
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# Delete Mumble app by going to your Applications folder<ref>https://www.mumble.com/support/how-to-uninstall-mumble-mac.php</ref>
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# Reveal hidden directories by going to Finder, open up your Macintosh HD folder. Press Command+Shift+Dot
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# Delete mumble database directory: <code>$HOME/Library/Application Support/Mumble/</code><ref name="Mac location" />
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# Delete mumble settings file: <code>$HOME/Library/Preferences/net.sourceforge.mumble.Mumble.plist</code><ref name="Mac location" />
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# Remove permissions by going to System Preferences > Privacy & Security > Privacy. For BOTH the "Accessibility" AND "Input Monitoring" lists: Remove Mumble from the list using the minus button.
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# Install Mumble 1.5.x+ software
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# Add permissions for new Mumble by going to System Preferences > Privacy & Security > Privacy. For BOTH the "Accessibility" AND "Input Monitoring" lists: Add Mumble from the list using the plus button, and selecting Mumble from Applications.
  
*Mouse-over anyone's name and their ingame portrait will pop up.<br>
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FYI Mumble download page warns that upgrading directly to 1.5.x+ will break mumble on your macOS machine.
*Right-click on a channel and select Join Channel to move to that channel (double-clicking sometimes produces strange behaviour with nested channels).
 
*If the name of the channel that you are in is ''italicized'', then your push-to-talk button, in addition to talking to the current channel, will also talk to everybody in every other channel that is also ''italicized''.&nbsp; Italicized names denote linked channels (you can only see this if you are currently in a linked channel).  
 
*Click the small yellow |c| button on any channel (or any person) to see comments on that channel (or person). The |c| will go white once you've read it (and go yellow again if it changes).&nbsp; You can set your own comment by right-clicking on your own name.<br>
 
*You will automatically be moved to the AFK &amp; Idle channel if Mumble detects no activity on your computer for at least 4 hours.&nbsp; Everybody is automatically muted in that channel, so you can also move yourself there if you desire peace and quiet
 
*You can create your own channels for EVE purposes (in the On-Demand Channels section) or for any non-EVE gaming purposes (in the Non-EVE Gaming section) by right-clicking on the relevant section and choosing Add.&nbsp; These are temporary channels, you will have admin powers and once the last person leaves the channel will disappear.
 
*The overview will only appear if somebody speaks - so say hello if you cannot see your overview.
 
  
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== References ==
 
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<references>
=== Chat Policies<br>  ===
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<ref name="Mac location">https://www.mumble.info/documentation/user/settings-storage-location/</ref>
 
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Please remember that our [[Public channel policies]] and [[Eve University Community Standards]] apply in the Uni Mumble.  Moderation can include muting and/or banning.  Note that this can severely affect your participation in fleets, classes, and other activities.
 
 
 
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== Setting a sub channel push-to-talk button <br>  ==
 
 
 
Some of our mumble rooms, most notably the fleet and campus channels have sub channels like ''command, logistics'' or ''ewar''. The purpose of these sub channels is to give the group within the option to talk to each other without the rest of the fleet being able to hear it. For example the commander of the logistics group can now talk to only the Logistic pilots without confusing everyone else.
 
 
 
You don't need to do anything to just listen to a sub channel but joining it. Your regular push to talk button will still let you talk to the whole fleet/campus you are in, the sub channels are "linked" to the whole channel. To be able to talk to the sub channel you are in right now, you need to set a second PTT key. To set that up, go to Configure -&gt; Settings -&gt; Shortcuts, which will pop up a window that looks like this:<br>
 
 
 
[[Image:Mumble3.png]]
 
 
 
You should already see your existing push-to-talk key set up.&nbsp; It's a good idea to check the ''Suppress'' box on any shortcuts, as that will prevent other applications from recognising your key and performing unforseen tasks you had not expected (e.g. warp scrambling stargates).<br>
 
 
 
#Click the Add button in the bottom left, which will bring up a new ''Unassigned'' shortcut in the window.<br>
 
#Click the word ''Unassigned'' and select ''Whisper/Shout ''from the drop-down list.<br>
 
#Click the word ''Empty'' next to it, which should cause a [...] button to appear next to that - click that [...] button to open a new Whisper Target window.<br>[[Image:Shortcut 1.png]]<br><br>
 
#Make that new Whisper Target window look like this (i.e. Shout to Channel box ticked at the top, and Current channel highlighted), and then click OK.&nbsp; The ''Shout to Linked channels'' should be <u>clear</u>. Check ''Shout to subchannels'' if you want to be able to talk to the campus sleeper rooms (sometimes listed as "Ready Room").<br>[[Image:Whisper current target.png]]<br><br>
 
#Finally click the Shortcut column of your new shortcut and press the key you wish to use.
 
#You now have a Command chat key set up for fleet channels!<br>
 
 
 
Note that it will only talk to Command chat if you yourself are also in Command.&nbsp; If you are in the general fleet channel it will talk to the general fleet ONLY, i.e. not Command.&nbsp; You can also use this key in any channels that are linked together (e.g. Public Lounge and Combat Lounge) - it will only talk to the current channel, and not the linked channels.&nbsp; Speaking of which...<br>
 
 
 
=== Student and Public Lounge<br>  ===
 
 
 
These two channels in Mumble are linked.&nbsp; The Student Lounge is restricted to those people actually in EVE University; however the Public Lounge is open to ''anyone'' with an account on the EVE University Forums - i.e. any EVE Online player in the whole galaxy can join our Mumble server. The Public Lounge is where you can go while you're awaiting your interview to join EVE University and talk to Unistas in the Student Lounge. The Student Lounge is a place Unistas can go when not busy in a fleet or other Mumble rooms, such as Campus Channels to just relax, chat or help new Unistas with any questions.<br>
 
 
 
This is important when it comes to communicating information about University fleets or war information.&nbsp; Your normal push-to-talk will of course talk to both channels, and you should use that to chat in these two channels.&nbsp; However, the Student Lounge section serves an important purpose, and that is announcing upcoming fleets (or other confidential fleet/war information).<br>  
 
 
 
Whilst in the Student Lounge you can use your Command chat push-to-talk key (Whisper Key) to talk to ''only ''the Student Lounge in order to announce upcoming fleets, or asking confidential questions concerning fleets or current wars.&nbsp; This should <u>not</u> be used for general chatting, and should only be used for fleet announcements or confidential war/fleet questions.&nbsp; Use of the command chat key in this case should be kept short and clear, as those in the Public Lounge are liable to talk over you.<br>
 
 
 
=== Tokens  ===
 
 
 
Another option with mumble is to set up so called tokens to be able to only talk to specific people. You find a detailed description with the example for ewar pilots here [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lmulCWzEalVg3P53OonshWNhEx28CZZgpTWM56NE_l4/edit?hl=en&authkey=CJik4e4I&pli=1 here] (thanks to Remric for that).
 
 
 
You can also set up keybinds to talk to groups of people, or to single specific people regardless of what channel they are in (we call this one a 'push-to-stalk' key).
 
 
 
==== Setup a Server Access Token ====
 
* 1. In Mumble go to Server / Access Tokens
 
* 2. Name the new token Ewar, logi, bombers, triage, and share this with your group.
 
 
 
[[File:MumbleServerAccessToken 1.jpg]]
 
 
 
* 3. Go to Configure / Settings / Shortcuts (where the Push to Talk PTT key is setup)
 
* 4. Select Whisper/Shout under Function
 
* 5. Choose a shortcut key that is different from your other Mumble shortcut keys
 
* 6. Click "..." under Data
 
* 7. Select Shout to Channel radio button
 
* 8. Select Parent for Channel Target
 
* 9. Restrict to group use hash '#' + Server Access Token (above) in this example #logi
 
* 10. Check box Shout to Linked Channels
 
 
 
[[File:MumbleServerAccessToken 2.jpg]]
 
 
 
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== Overlay  ==
 
 
 
[[Image:Overlay example.png|right|Sample overlay]] Mumble provides a very handy and customizable overlay. To configure it go to Configure --&gt; Settings --&gt; Overlay option.
 
 
 
Mumble, being the awesome program that it is, shows in this window an example of what the overlay will look like on your current desktop, as well as instructions on how to alter it.&nbsp; One position that works very well is just to the right of the current location name, like the screenshot on the right.&nbsp; You could even put it above the current location, but then - for me at least - it's too small to see easily.<br>
 
 
 
The default setting is for the Overlay to display the name of everyone currently in the channel.&nbsp; As you can imagine, this gets unwieldy very quickly.&nbsp; To change this, right-click on the small example overlay in the window, choose Filter &gt;, and tick ''Only talking''.&nbsp; Also untick ''Always show yourself,'' otherwise your name will constantly be displayed on the overlay.<br>
 
 
 
The ''Edit...'' option on the right-click menu produces a detailed configuration screen where you can change pretty much anything you like about the overlay: colours, sizes, backgrounds, avatars, etc.<br>
 
 
 
If your overlay is not showing up, it might be because you started Mumble whilst EVE was already running. If necessary simply restart EVE. If the overlay is still not showing, check the [[#Overlay_not_showing|troubleshooting]] section below.<br>
 
 
 
[[Image:Mumble overlay.png]]<br>
 
 
 
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===Mumble Overlay on Windows 10===
 
 
 
The Mumble Overlay often doesn’t work on the EVE client with Windows 10 without some additional work. Many of the usual work-arounds won’t fix the problem. A reliable fix that is compatible with DirectX 11 can be done with the following two steps.
 
 
 
# Download and install the current Mumble Snapshot from http://wiki.mumble.info/. Use the Development Snapshot version instead of the Stable Release version and use the first listed (“Windows” -- Do Not use the “Windows x64” version). You can install the Snapshot version over your current version of Mumble. You don’t have uninstall the current version first.
 
# Next, put the location of the EVE client, “exefile.exe”, into the Mumble Overlay Whitelist. To find the Whitelist, open the Mumble Configuration (Menu: Configure/Settings or the Gear icon). Then select Overlay on the left side menu. Next select the Overlay exceptions and click on the Whitelist. Use the Add button at the bottom to add the location of your exefile.exe. The familiar Open File window will allow you to find the path, select the file, and add it to the Whitelist.
 
 
 
If you don’t know where your "exefile.exe" file is located, go to the EVE Launcher, open the dropdown menu from the top right corner, and select the Shared Cache option. The pop-up window will show the full path of the Shared Cache folder and the Tranquility exefile.exe will be located in the "\SharedCache\\tq\bin folder". <br>
 
[[Image:EVELauncher_Shared_Cache_470x338.jpg]]<br>
 
The file might be located in the "ProgramData" folder which is a hidden folder. You might have to unhide it using File Explorer. If you want to add the path for the Serenity test server, add the path that contains “\SharedCache\sisi\bin\exefile.exe” instead of "\SharedCache\tq\bin\exefile.exe".
 
 
 
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=== Overlay on Linux  ===
 
 
 
To actually display the overlay over EVE in Linux after you've enabled it in Mumble's settings you need to have Mumble launched first and then run '''mumble-overlay''' in front of the wine command that you use to launch EVE. For example:
 
 
 
''mumble-overlay wine explorer /desktop=EVE,1600x1200 "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe"''
 
 
 
If you use a WINEPREFIX, then you would insert it after the WINEPREFIX variable like so:
 
 
 
''WINEPREFIX=/home/username/bin/wine/wine-eve/ mumble-overlay wine explorer /desktop=EVE,3200x1180 "C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\eve.exe"''
 
 
 
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=== Overlay on Mac  ===
 
 
 
The overlay in the 1.2.3a stable release works with Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion), but not with Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard). You'll need to install the developer snapshot from [http://mumble.sourceforge.net/ http://mumble.sourceforge.net/] to get a working overlay in Snow Leopard.<ref>[http://sourceforge.net/projects/mumble/forums/forum/492606/topic/5383204/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/mumble/forums/forum/492606/topic/5383204/]</ref>
 
 
 
'''In all cases, it is essential that Mumble be running before the EVE client is started for the overlay to work in EVE.'''
 
 
 
==== Version 1.2.3a ====
 
 
 
===== Installing the Overlay =====
 
 
 
#After downloading and mounting the Mumble install dmg, drag and drop the Mumble application into the folder of your choice.
 
#Launch Mumble.
 
#Click Mumble -> Preferences… and go to the Overlay section in the Preferences window that opens.
 
#Click the [Install Mumble Overlay] button. If prompted, authenticate using an account with Admin rights.
 
#*The window will update once the overlay is installed.
 
#Tick the [Enable Overlay] checkbox if it's not already ticked.
 
#Click [OK] to close the Preferences window.
 
 
 
Congratulations, you now have a working overlay! Well, kind of. You'll probably want to make some configuration changes.
 
 
 
===== Configuring Overlay =====
 
  
#With the Mumble application still running, launch EVE.
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{{EVEUniversityNav}}
#If you run EVE in full-screen mode, press the [Command]+[Enter] keys to put it into windowed mode.
 
#Switch to Mumble and click Mumble -> Preferences… and go back to the Overlay section.
 
#In the Layout tab in the bottom half of the window, use the screen preview to:
 
##Move the red dot to anchor the overlay where you want it.
 
##Hover the mouse over the overlay and scroll in/out to increase/decrease the size of the overlay.
 
##Right-click the overlay and in the Filter menu check [Only Talking] (or [Talking and recently active]) and uncheck [Always show yourself].
 
##Adjust other settings as desired. Right-click the overly and select Edit to customise the look of the overlay (e.g., background and font colour for the talk/shout/whisper).
 
#Click Ok to save the changes.
 
#With Mumble running in the background, you can now switch back to EVE. Press [Command]+[Enter] if you want to put EVE in full-screen mode.
 
 
 
Your overlay is now setup and you are ready to go!
 
 
 
Again - be sure to start Mumble first before EVE from here on out.
 
 
 
''' "In the EVE settings make sure that you have checked "Use Multithreaded OpenGL"'. Without it the overlay will not work in EVE and will crash the client on startup.  ''' ''(credit: Hank Magnusson)''
 
 
 
== Troubleshooting  ==
 
 
 
The Mumble FAQ on the Mumble homepage - [http://mumble.sourceforge.net/FAQ http://mumble.sourceforge.net/FAQ] - has a lot of useful information, and also has a section on Common Problems and Resolutions which may be helpful.
 
 
 
 
 
=== I can login to other servers but not the UNI server!<br>  ===
 
 
 
The Mumble download comes with a "backwards-compatible" version.&nbsp; That program won't work with our server.&nbsp; Use the up-to-date version.&nbsp;
 
 
 
=== I can't enter a channel I&nbsp;should be able to!<br>  ===
 
 
 
Mumble takes a few hours to update, so if you have just joined or left EVE University, or changed your forum password, it will take a while to catch up. Try again the following day and if it is still not working ask a Director for assistance.
 
 
 
=== "Server connection failed: The remote host closed the connection." ===
 
 
 
Third-party certificates (for example the free one from https://www.startssl.com that Mumble suggests using) do not work with the EVE University Mumble server.  Create a new certificate from within Mumble and you should be properly prompted for your password when initially connecting.
 
 
 
=== I continue getting the message "Server connection failed:  The remote host closed the connection."<br>  ===
 
 
 
Click on the Mumble menu: Configure/Settings and a popup window appears.  Click on Network and be sure to UNcheck the [ ] Use Quality of Service (QoS) box.  Now click Apply at the bottom right then click OK.  The window will close and you will be connected to your server.
 
 
 
=== A referral was returned from the server.  ===
 
 
 
"A referral was returned from the server." error while starting Mumble on Windows Check your system time. Windows certificate check will fail if your clock is some years ahead/behind.
 
 
 
For Windows XP: Install the latest Root Certificate update through Windows Update (it's an optional update) to fix this problem.
 
 
 
For Windows Vista/7: Right-click the Mumble executable, select "Properties", select the "Digital Signature" tab, click "Details" and click "Install certificate".
 
 
 
Installing&nbsp;[https://www.startssl.com/certs/ca-bundle.crt https://www.startssl.com/certs/ca-bundle.crt] to the "Trusted Root Certification Authorities" cert store should also work.
 
 
 
If you compiled Mumble yourself either sign the binary or disable signing.
 
 
 
If you are on windows 7 and this doesn't help you, try this out. Press Start, type MMC and press enter go to File and select Add/Remove Snap-ins in available snap-ins select Certificates and press ADD. you get three options, I personally went with "My User Account"
 
 
 
with that done exit the Snap in management window and double click on the Certificate Icon, then double click on the "Trusted Root Certification Authorities" Right click on the Certificate icon that appears and highlight "all tasks" then click on the Import button.
 
 
 
The import wizard will then ask for the filename of the certificate you want imported. First Save As: [https://www.startssl.com/certs/ca-bundle.crt https://www.startssl.com/certs/ca-bundle.cr] in whatever folder you want then link it to the import tool. follow the wizard's instructions and "Voila" you now should be able to use Mumble
 
 
 
=== Overlay not showing ===
 
{{example|Sometimes it requires whitelisting the EVE-client in Mumble. Go to the Overlay settings page under '''Configure''' -> '''Settings''' -> '''Overlay''', go to the exception tab and add the '''''..\CCP\Eve\bin\exefile.exe''''' to the whitelist. This might be needed regardless how you solve the DirectX 9 or 11 issue.
 
If the exefile is not in that location, check '''''EveInstallFolder\SharedCache\tq\bin\exefile.exe'''''}}
 
Rubicon added the ability for Eve Online to use DirectX 11 rather than DirectX 9 to run the game.  As of version 1.2.6, Mumble's Overlay does '''not''' work with DX11.  Two options have been found to resolve this...
 
 
 
* Option 1:  If you want to keep using DX11, you can update [http://mumble.sourceforge.net/  Mumble] to the latest snapshot release (snapshot link is to the right of the stable release).  WARNING: Some people have experienced EVE client instability (Error message: "CCP ExeFile has stopped working") after upgrading to the latest snapshot.
 
 
 
* Option 2:  Force Eve to use DX9
 
** Click the cog in the upper right hand corner of the launcher
 
** Click in the DirectX tab on the far right (screenshot below)
 
** Change the dropdown to DirectX 9
 
 
 
Now, if you have Mumble active and launch the game client, you should be able to see the overlay in-game.
 
 
 
[[File:Dxlaunchertab.png]]
 
 
 
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<br />
 
 
 
Due to multiple instances of pilots not being able to get the overlay working even with the above and below instructions, I've put together a video which can be found in this forum link http://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=88514 ~Ezekial "Zeke" Calitori
 
 
 
=== Overlay not showing in Windows 8/Windows Server 2012. ===
 
 
 
There seems to be an issue with how Mumble injects the overlay in Windows 8/Windows Server 2012. To get the Overlay to work properly just add -nod3d9ex to your Mumble shortcut. ** This workaround seems to be working with [http://mumble.info/snapshot/mumble-1.2.4-beta1-4-g90599b8.msi Mumble 1.2.4-beta1-4-g90599b8]
 
 
 
[[File:mumble.jpg]]
 
 
 
=== Overlay not showing when you run Eve via exefile.exe. ===
 
 
 
If you don't use launcher, but instead run eve via exefile.exe shortcut, Mumble overlay may still not work (launcher setting does not impact direct exefile.exe startup).
 
The solution is to add "/triPlatform=dx9 /noconsole" parameters into your exefile.exe shortcut (just at the end of line in the Target field - after \path\exefile.exe).
 
 
 
=== Overlay not showing in Windows 8 64 bit or Windows 7 64 ===
 
 
 
When downloading latest snapshot of Mumble you can choose between Windows or Windows x64 version. It is likely that even if you have x64 Windows you should install '''32 bit version''' to get the overlay. The current file that seems to work is [http://mumble.info/snapshot/mumble-1.3.0~537~gf8b63cd~snapshot.msi mumble 1.3.0~537 snapshot].
 
 
 
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== Fallback to EVE Voice, should Mumble go down  ==
 
 
 
'''Not required, just recommended.'''
 
 
 
<br> Sometimes Mumble goes down, and sometimes the Uni is at war (when anyone undocked should be capable of at least listening in Mumble), or you might be in the middle of a fleet op in null-sec. To prepare for the eventuality that they happen at once, it would make sense to prepare by enabling EVE voice chat in the game settings if you haven't already, and setting up a push to talk button and your mic if you're likely to be commanding in a fleet (this isn't in the WSOP, it's just good preparation). EVE Voice is not a bad tool. It works quite well nowadays and is much better than no audio at all.
 
 
 
=== Mumble crashing EVE with overlay on ===
 
Overlay can show who speaks in mumble at that moment in EVE.  It is enabled by default, and you can disable it to prevent crashing.  If you have ATI TRAY TOOL it may crash your eve. Turn it off if you want to have overlay on.
 
 
 
==== How to join EVE Voice  ====
 
 
 
# Hit esc and go to the "audio and chat" tab.
 
# Click "eve voice enabled".
 
# Adjust push-to-talk button setting as appropriate (middle mouse button is default).
 
# Adjust volume to 3 to prevent damaging unistas ears, and then adjust again after asking for a mic check, if needed.
 
# Back in game, right click the chat tab you wish to enable EVE Voice with.
 
# Click "l see a volume box on your portrait showing that you have joined correctly. once you have, do as 4 says and ask for a mic check. a volume of 3 will prevent blowing our ears and also give you room to raise it one tick at a time for perfect audio.
 
 
 
== References ==
 
<references/>
 
  
[[Category:EVE University]]
 
 
[[Category:Getting Started]]
 
[[Category:Getting Started]]
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[[Category:Applications]]
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[[Category:EVE University Services]]

Latest revision as of 11:33, 28 November 2024

E-UNI Emblem.png This page is specific to EVE University. Other corporations or groups in the game may operate differently.
For a summary of EVE University's rules and code of conduct, see EVE University Rules.

Mumble is a third-party VOIP (Voice Over Internet Protocol) application that allows people to communicate verbally both in- and out-of-game.

Our Mumble authentication for Members and Guests is handled through Alliance Auth.

Accessing Mumble

Navigate to https://auth.eveuniversity.org/ and sign in using EVE Online SSO - For access to base systems you will only be asked for public scopes:

  1. Select Services from the toolbar on the left hand side of the screen
  2. Select the amber tick at the end of the mumble row and you will see your username and password
  3. Select continue
  4. Click on the Green arrow Connect button to automatically connect to Mumble
  5. Enter your Mumble password if prompted

After you've successfully connected, you can easily save the server settings in your Mumble Desktop client to reconnect easily in the future.

Using the Mumble Desktop Client:

  1. Click on Server > Connect > Add New
  2. Click on the Fill button to automatically fill in the server details
  3. You can modify the Label to anything you like, or just leave it as the default

If you are still having problems getting connected, try following the manual instructions below setup the connection.

Manual connection instructions

After setting up your Mumble account through Alliance Auth in the steps above. You can try using these steps to setup a connection to the EVE University Mumble server if the Green Connect button isn't working for you.

Using the Mumble Desktop Client:

  1. Click on Server > Connect > Add New
  2. Enter the EVE University Mumble details below then click OK
  3. Select EVE University Mumble in the list then click Connect
EVE University Mumble
Address mumble.eveuniversity.org
Port 64738 (default)
Username <Your Alliance Auth username, i.e: Example_Member>
Password (only when prompted) <Your Mumble password>
Label EVE University Mumble

Your Alliance Auth username is normally your character name with spaces replaced by underscores. (i.e. Example Member is Example_Member) If you're uncertain, you can see your current username for Mumble on the Alliance Auth Services page.

If you cannot remember your Mumble password, go back to the Services page where you can set a new password using the amber pencil icon or create a new random password using the gray refresh, or circular arrows, icon.

If you're still unable to connect to our Mumble server after trying these steps, feel free to reach out for support in #alliance-auth channel on the EVE University Discord.

Initial configuration

Push to talk

There is nothing more annoying than hearing other people type or breathe into their microphone constantly. If you leave push-to-talk off during a fleet op then you are likely to have some very frustrated Corp mates. This is why push to talk is mandatory. To turn on push to talk for Mumble, follow these steps.

  1. Open up Mumble
  2. Click the “Configure” option at the top, then click settings
  3. You should now be in the Audio Input settings area, under the Transmission area make sure the Transmit drop down box is set to “Push to Talk”
  4. Now you need to assign a key that you will need to press so others can hear you. To do this click the “Shortcuts” button on the left hand side of the Settings dialog box.
  5. There should be a listing there labeled “Push-to-Talk”, click on the Shortcut column and press the key that you wish to be your push to talk key.


Linux users using the Wayland desktop manager are not currently able to configure global hotkeys in Mumble. This is a known bug as of 2022, with no prospect of being fixed, outside of either a) using an older desktop manager (which is running out of community support) or b) using a specific desktop compositor that allows you to set keybinds via a config file. Both are really janky workarounds that shouldn't be recommended.

Mumble audio still works, you just can't transmit with PTT. Per Intake, this is acceptable - just 'avoid taking special roles that require communication via voice'.

Whisper key

Some of our mumble rooms, most notably the fleet and general lounge channels are linked to other channels. The purpose of these sub channels is to give the group within the option to talk to each other without all of the linked channels being able to hear it.

For example the commander of the logistics group can now talk to only the Logistic pilots without confusing everyone else.

A whisper key allows you to talk to just your current channel instead of broadcasting your voice to all of the linked channels.

You should already see your existing push-to-talk key set up. It's a good idea to check the Suppress box on any shortcuts, as that will prevent other applications from recognizing your key and performing unforeseen tasks you had not expected (e.g. warp scrambling stargates).

Setting up your whisper key

  1. Click the Add button in the bottom left, which will bring up a new Unassigned shortcut in the window.
  2. Click the word Unassigned and select Whisper/Shout from the drop-down list.
  3. Click the word Empty next to it, which should cause a [...] button to appear next to that - click that [...] button to open a new Whisper Target window.
  4. Select the Shout to Channel box, and check that “Current channel” is highlighted, and then click OK.
  5. Finally click the Shortcut column of your new shortcut and press the key you wish to use.

You now have your Whisper chat key setup!

By default you should always use a Whisper Key to chat in EVE University Mumble channels.

Notifications

Go to Configure > Settings... > Messages. From there you can disable popup and sound notifications about events you don't care about. By default Mumble makes a loud PING and gives you a notification popup for almost any event on the server - this gets annoying pretty fast.

Mac version: From the Mumble --> Preferences window (make sure the 'Advanced' checkbox in the upper right is checked), select the 'Messages' tab. The only way to eliminate audio notifications is to uncheck items in the 'Soundfile' column.

Overlay

It can be useful to have the Mumble Overlay set up for fleet operations as it eliminates the need for checking the Mumble client to see who is talking. See the Mumble Overlay for a step-by-step guide.

Chat policies

Please remember that our Communications Policy applies in the Uni Mumble. Moderation can include muting and/or banning. Note that this can severely affect your participation in fleets, classes, and other activities.

Channel rules & access

Mumble is currently set up in the following configuration:

  • General Lounges - Two channels, one for members and one for the public. A general hangout space for everyone
  • Classrooms - Open to everyone who joins mumble and used by the Teachers to run classes
  • Public Fleets - Open to everyone for public roams and fleets (EVE Uni Comms Policy still applies)
  • Uni Fleets - Restricted to Uni Members for Uni only roams/fleets or QRF’s
  • Standing Fleets - Be in standing fleet and in here if your just hanging out around our staging areas
  • Special Interest Groups - Rooms to allow members to connect your content and interests no matter which area of space the operate in
  • On Demand Channels - Anyone in EVE Uni can create temporary channels here if there is no suitable channel for their needs.
  • Staff Offices - Restricted to EVE University Officers and Management
  • AFK & Idle Room - If you're muting your speakers anyways, idle here

Moderation

Any of our officers, managers or directors are able to moderate our mumble server.

Note for MacOS users

When updating or reinstalling Mumble on MacOS, it is necessary to go into System Preferences > Privacy & Security > Privacy

For BOTH the "Accessibility" AND "Input Monitoring" lists: Remove Mumble from the list, then re-add Mumble to the list by clicking-and-dragging the NEW Mumble application from the "Applications" folder to the list.

If installing Mumble for the first time ever (on a given Macintosh), then just add Mumble to these two lists.

Forgetting to do this when installing, reinstalling, or updating Mumble will result in Mumble being unable to detect keyboard inputs for Push-To-Talk and Whisper/Shout features.

Warning

Do NOT upgrade from mumble <=1.3.x to 1.5.x+[1]. If you accidentally did upgrade, follow these steps to recover:

  1. When referring to delete, that is dragging app, file or folder icon to trash can or using Command-Delete
  2. Delete Mumble app by going to your Applications folder[2]
  3. Reveal hidden directories by going to Finder, open up your Macintosh HD folder. Press Command+Shift+Dot
  4. Delete mumble database directory: $HOME/Library/Application Support/Mumble/[3]
  5. Delete mumble settings file: $HOME/Library/Preferences/net.sourceforge.mumble.Mumble.plist[3]
  6. Remove permissions by going to System Preferences > Privacy & Security > Privacy. For BOTH the "Accessibility" AND "Input Monitoring" lists: Remove Mumble from the list using the minus button.
  7. Install Mumble 1.5.x+ software
  8. Add permissions for new Mumble by going to System Preferences > Privacy & Security > Privacy. For BOTH the "Accessibility" AND "Input Monitoring" lists: Add Mumble from the list using the plus button, and selecting Mumble from Applications.

FYI Mumble download page warns that upgrading directly to 1.5.x+ will break mumble on your macOS machine.

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