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==Tactics==
 
==Tactics==
As with all destroyers, the '''Talwar''' offers great firepower while sacrificing its own odds for survival. Its very high speed makes it harder for enemies to hit the Destroyer, and it allows the ship to get into range quicker. Due to this, the ship should always kept in motion with the MicroWarp Drive being enabled. While the increased Signature Radius might increase the damage it receives a bit, the far bigger velocity increment will offset this by far. As such, it is especially susceptible to bigger ships with webifiers that will simply outlast its damage output, such as the [[Huginn]] or [[Vindicator]].
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As with all destroyers, the '''Talwar''' carries a great deal of firepower and very little tank. Unusually, it has a bonus to [[microwarpdrive]] signature bloom which, combined with its role bonus to missile range, makes it an excellent kiter, using range and speed to make up for a lack of tank. Fits vary in their emphasis on range as a defense, with some committing fully to range (and sometimes e-war) for defense and others mounting a small tank. Getting the most out of the ship's long-range capability requires fighting outside of point range; it is common for Talwars to forgo fitting tackle and instead rely on other ships to hold their targets.
  
While the '''Talwar's''' bonuses suggest Light Missiles as an alternative weapon system, this complicates fitting the ship as a whole (when aiming for the maximum number of launchers), as the more complex Light Missile Launchers will require significantly more [[Power Grid]] and [[CPU]].
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Fitting a full rack of light missile launchers can be difficult; meta-1 launchers, which have the lowest CPU requirements, are commonly used to mitigate fitting difficulties.
 
 
As such, especially newer players are presented with three alternative strategies when picking weapons:
 
* Fit the ship for Rockets, maximizing the close range damage without further disadvantages other than range.
 
* Sacrifice one or more low or rig slots to increase the available Power Grid and CPU capacities to make room for a full set of Light Missile Launchers.
 
* Use less Light Missile Launchers than the possible maximum, while using the other high slots for other modules, e.g. Tractor Beams or Salvagers.
 
Similar to [[Interceptor]]s and [[Frigate#Assault Frigates|Assault Frigate]]s the '''Talwar's''' MWD bonuses strongly suggests always fitting a MicroWarp Drive for faster movement, although an Afterburner might be more interesting for fittings with Light Missile Launchers.
 
 
 
Due to the symmetric slot layout with 3 low and 3 medium powered slots, the ship can be tanked either way. However, due to the limited amount of available slots, the '''Talwar''' should never ignore its own speed and signature radius to out-tank other ships by simply not getting hit.
 
  
 
==Notes==
 
==Notes==

Revision as of 04:03, 11 May 2014

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Ship Database
Talwar
Talwar
Minmatar Republic
Minmatar Republic
Standard Destroyers
Talwar Class
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The Talwar is redolent of the renowned Minmatar practicality in terms of battle. Irrespective of numbers, firepower and circumstances, their strategy when engaged in combat often revolves around the same central tenet: Stay untouchable as much as you can, either by sneaking around or rushing in, do as much damage as fast as you can, and get out before you get killed.

As such, the Talwar does not come equipped to hang around forever on the battlefield. It is built to rush around at speed without getting caught, and to hit very hard and very, very fast.

SHIP BONUSES

Traits:
Minmatar Destroyer skill bonus per level:
5% bonus to light missile and rocket explosive damage per level
15% reduction in microwarpdrive signature radius penalty per level

Role bonus:
50% bonus to light missile and rocket max velocity

Required Skills
  • Minmatar Destroyers I16m
    • Minmatar Frigate III8h 53m
      • Spaceship Command I8m
Training Time what's this?
9h 17m
Estimated training time only for the listed skills based on zero implants and without neural remaps.
Grouping
▪ Variations
none

Ship Attributes

Fittings
Powergrid
powergrid
51 MW
CPU
cpu output
200 tf
Capacitor
capacitor
450 GJ
High
high slots
7
Launchers
launcher slots
7
Turrets
turret slots
0
Medium
medium slots
3
Low
low slots
3
Rig
rigs
3
 
small
Calibration
calibration
400
Navigation
Max Velocity
max. velocity
255 m/s
Inertia Modifier
inertia modifier (agility)
2.9
Warp Speed
inertia modifier (agility)
4.5 AU/s
Base Time to Warp
base time to warp
4.64 s
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Base Time to Warp is essentially the time needed for this ship to align and accelerate until it reaches 75% of its top speed and goes to warp. The time displayed here is the base calculated time with no account for any warp related skills, modules or any other effects.
Drones
Drone Capacity
drone capacity
0 m³
Drone Bandwidth
drone bandwidth
0 Mbit/sec
Targeting
Max Tgt. Range
max. targeting range
36 km
Max Locked Targets
max. locked targets
6
LADAR Sensor
LADAR sensor strength
9 points
Sig. Radius
signature radius
60 m
Scan Res.
scan resolution
550 mm
Structure
Structure Hitpoints
structure hitpoints
800 HP
Mass
ship mass
1,650,000 kg
Volume
ship volume
43,000 m³
Cargo Capacity
cargo capacity
400 m³
Armor
Armor Hitpoints
armor hitpoints
800 HP
Armor Resistances
EM
electromagnetic resistance
60
THR
thermal resistance
35
KIN
kinetic resistance
25
EXP
explosive resistance
10
Shields
Shield Capacity
shield hitpoints
850 HP
Shield Resistances
EM
electromagnetic resistance
0
THR
thermal resistance
20
KIN
kinetic resistance
40
EXP
explosive resistance
50


Summary

The Talwar uses rockets or light missiles to fight smaller craft like Frigates or other Destroyers. Due to its unique bonus amongst Destroyers reducing the signature radius bloom of MicroWarp Drives it is the fastest Destroyer available and able to reach such speeds without increasing its own signature radius significantly.

Skills

Due to its short range and the ship heavily relying on speed, acquiring a good level of knowledge in Navigation skills can improve the ship's performance significantly. Missiles skills can increase the ships damage output and range even more.

Fitting

PvP Sniper
Talwar: PvP Sniper
EFT
[Talwar, PvP Sniper]
Upgraded 'Malkuth' Light Missile Launcher
Upgraded 'Malkuth' Light Missile Launcher
Upgraded 'Malkuth' Light Missile Launcher
Upgraded 'Malkuth' Light Missile Launcher
Upgraded 'Malkuth' Light Missile Launcher
Upgraded 'Malkuth' Light Missile Launcher
Upgraded 'Malkuth' Light Missile Launcher

Small Shield Extender II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Sensor Booster II

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I



Targeting Range Script x1
Mjolnir Light Missile x1

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ODY 1.0
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RECOMMENDED SKILLS
NOTES
  • As fitted, with all skills at V and before fleet boosts, this ship has 5.1 K EHP, flies at 1869 m/s (2404 m/s with MWD on overheat) and align in 4.9 s (3.8 s with MWD off)
  • Damage is 123 dps within 63 km with Caldari Navy Nova Light Missiles. Alpha is 1093.
  • The capacitor is stable.
Alpha Shield Buffer
Talwar: Alpha Shield Buffer
EFT
[Talwar, Alpha Shield Buffer]
Experimental TE-2100 Light Missile Launcher
Experimental TE-2100 Light Missile Launcher
Experimental TE-2100 Light Missile Launcher
Experimental TE-2100 Light Missile Launcher
Experimental TE-2100 Light Missile Launcher
Experimental TE-2100 Light Missile Launcher
Experimental TE-2100 Light Missile Launcher

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Sensor Booster II

Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Ballistic Control System II

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I



Targeting Range Script x1
Caldari Navy Nova Light Missile x1

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FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
ODY 1.0
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
RECOMMENDED SKILLS
NOTES
  • Jester's Trek fit of the week for 2013-08-15, see http://jestertrek.blogspot.ca/2013/08/fit-of-week-alpha-talwar.html
  • As fitted, with all skills at V and before fleet boosts, this ship has 8.3 K EHP, flies at 1709 m/s (2404 m/s with MWD on overheat) and align in 5.8 s (4.5 s with MWD off)
  • Damage is 144 dps within 72 km with Caldari Navy Nova Light Missiles. Alpha is 1257.
  • The capacitor is stable.
PvP with point
Talwar: PvP with point
EFT
[Talwar, PvP with point]
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II

Cap Recharger II
Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II

Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I



Nova Fury Light Missile x1

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FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
ODY 1.0
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
RECOMMENDED SKILLS
NOTES
  • As fitted, with all skills at V and before fleet boosts, this ship has 3.3 K EHP, flies at 2165 m/s (3046 m/s with MWD on overheat) and align in 4.2 s (3.3 s with MWD off)
  • Damage is 208 dps within 45 km with Nova Fury Light Missiles. Alpha is 1535.
  • The capacitor is stable.
Meta Missiles MWD
Talwar: Meta Missiles MWD
EFT
[Talwar, Meta Missiles MWD]
Experimental TE-2100 Light Missile Launcher
Experimental TE-2100 Light Missile Launcher
Experimental TE-2100 Light Missile Launcher
Experimental TE-2100 Light Missile Launcher
Experimental TE-2100 Light Missile Launcher
Experimental TE-2100 Light Missile Launcher
Experimental TE-2100 Light Missile Launcher

Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Sensor Booster II

Damage Control II
Reactor Control Unit II
Overdrive Injector System II

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I



Targeting Range Script x1
Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile x1

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FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
ODY 1.0
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
RECOMMENDED SKILLS
  • Energy Grid Upgrades V
NOTES
Wolfpack Talwar
Talwar: Wolfpack Talwar
EFT
[Talwar, Wolfpack Talwar]
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Low Frequency Sensor Suppressor I

Damage Control II
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I



Targeting Range Dampening Script x1
Nova Fury Light Missile x1

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ODY 1.0
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
RECOMMENDED SKILLS
NOTES
  • Let tackle frigs get point, maintain range and damp
  • Has good base speed, an okay buffer and a MWD bonus
  • Talwars have a bonus to explosive, so pack faction Nova and Nova Fury
  • With all skills at V this fit has 7382 EHP and flies at 1574 m/s
  • 169 DPS with Nova Fury Light Missile at 47.5 km


Tactics

As with all destroyers, the Talwar carries a great deal of firepower and very little tank. Unusually, it has a bonus to microwarpdrive signature bloom which, combined with its role bonus to missile range, makes it an excellent kiter, using range and speed to make up for a lack of tank. Fits vary in their emphasis on range as a defense, with some committing fully to range (and sometimes e-war) for defense and others mounting a small tank. Getting the most out of the ship's long-range capability requires fighting outside of point range; it is common for Talwars to forgo fitting tackle and instead rely on other ships to hold their targets.

Fitting a full rack of light missile launchers can be difficult; meta-1 launchers, which have the lowest CPU requirements, are commonly used to mitigate fitting difficulties.

Notes

  • While it's usually the best idea to fit as many guns or turrets as possible on a ship meant for DPS, the Talwar might make it necessary to ignore this common rule when trying to aim for longer range.