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Removed the wolfpack and crappy artillery gatecamp fit. Added a solid gatecamp fit.
Added a sentence or two about using Thrashers in the Abyss, under Tactics/PvE
 
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  | class=Destroyer
  | class=Destroyer
  | grouping=Standard Destroyers
  | grouping=Standard Destroyers
  | hulltype=Thrasher Class
  | hulltype=Thrasher Class
  | faction=Minmatar Republic
  | faction=Minmatar Republic  
| race=Minmatar
  | variations={{Ship|Thrasher Fleet Issue}}, {{Ship|Sabre}}
| roles=unspecified
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  | variations={{Ship|Sabre}},{{Ship|Nefantar Thrasher}}
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  | powergrid=70 MW
  | powergrid=70 MW
  | cpu=170 tf
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  | mass=1,600,000 kg
  | mass=1,600,000 kg
  | volume=43,000 m&#179;
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  | cargohold=400 m&#179;
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  | info=<b>Development</b><br>Engineered as a supplement to its big brother the Cyclone, the Thrasher's tremendous turret capabilities and advanced tracking computers allow it to protect its larger counterpart from smaller, faster menaces.
| quote=Send in a cat, rats grow cautious. Send in a lion, no more rats.
| quote_attribution=Unknown Republic Fleet pilot
  | info=Engineered as a supplement to its big brother the Cyclone, the Thrasher's tremendous turret capabilities and advanced tracking computers allow it to protect its larger counterpart from smaller, faster menaces.
  | bonuses=<b>Minmatar Destroyer bonuses (per skill level):</b><br>5% bonus to Small Projectile Turret damage<br>10% bonus to Small Projectile Turret tracking speed<br><b>Role Bonus:</b><br>50% bonus to Small Projectile Turret optimal range<br>
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  | structurehp=750 HP
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  | scanres=550 mm
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  | reqskills=*{{RequiredSkill|Minmatar Destroyer|I}}
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**{{RequiredSkill|Minmatar Frigate|III}}
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***{{RequiredSkill|Spaceship Command|I}}
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==Summary==
== Summary ==
The Thrasher can be an effective anti-frigate platform in PvE (L1 missions) or PvP. It is rarely seen in fleet combat, but its cheap cost makes it popular with suicide gankers.
 
The Thrasher can be an effective anti-frigate platform in PvE: it can power through L1 combat missions faster than the Minmatar Frigates.
 
Like other destroyers, the Thrasher cannot mount a large buffer tank, and in PvP its combination of cheap cost and many turret slots makes it useful in doctrines that emphasize speed and high close-range DPS rather than staying on the field for a long time. The same two qualities make it popular for [[Suicide Ganking|suicide ganking]], where it synergizes well with the very high alpha damage of artillery turrets.
 
The Thrasher's balanced mid and low slot layout makes it more flexible than most destroyers, able to fit some tackle and a small armour tank, or damage enhancement and a shield tank.
 
== Skills ==
 
As a T1 destroyer, the Thrasher is often the first step up out of frigates for pilots training in Minmatar ships. It is quite beginner-friendly, and can be flown effectively for simple PvE combat with only basic projectile turret skills. But destroyers are larger targets than frigates, and can't mount the scale of tank found on T1 cruisers, so the Thrasher is a little less forgiving than smaller ships. The jump from frigate to destroyer is a good moment to consider initial [[Support Skills|support skills]] for turrets, navigation, and tanking.
 
Characters with most relevant skills trained to IV or V can wring startling amounts of DPS out of the Thrasher, and it is sometimes seen in the hands of very experienced pilots.
 
== Tactics ==
 
'''PvE'''
 
The Thrasher is a fantastic Level 1 security mission ship. To speed through missions as quickly as possible, linking the auto-cannons together in a group of 3/2/2 allows the simultaneous and near-instant destruction of 3 frigates at a time. (Note that this split grouping of guns is unorthodox, and should not be used in most other contexts.) An afterburner or micro-warp drive will enable the pilot to quickly and efficiently work their way through getting the standings to move forward to Level 2 security missions.
 
A salvaging fit for a Thrasher can easily keep up with the wrecks popped from Level 1-3 missions, adding to the ISK from each mission.
 
The Thrasher is also great if you are starting out in the Abyss. An artillery fit like [https://abysstracker.com/fit/39671459-4e96-4d0d-b9eb-8a0f03635f80 this one], with decent gunnery and shield skills, can easily clear T0 Electrical Abyss in under 4 minutes, allowing a decent return of ISK. 
 
'''PvP'''
 
Most PvP fits for the Thrasher lean into the ship's strength (its damage output) and simply accept the weak tank as part of flying a destroyer. An autocannon-fit Thrasher can chew through almost any T1 frigate if it can get into close range, and can have a shot at some types of T2 frigate too. Fast, kiting targets can be more troublesome (note how the Thrasher's role bonus to ''optimal'' range doesn't help autocannon, which have very little optimal range), though depleted uranium or titanium sabot ammo or (for T2 autocannon) Barrage can help.
 
A group of Thrashers, or a mixed group of Thrashers and similar DPS-first destroyers can pose a serious threat to much larger ships, though they lack the tank for a sustained battle.


The Thrasher's balanced mid and low slot layout makes it generally the most flexible destroyer, able to fit some tackle and an armour tank, or damage and a shield tank.
An artillery fit with sensor boosters can be a very cost-effective low-security gatecamp platform. The standard usage is to fire a single volley and then immediately warp off to avoid gate guns, which the Thrasher cannot tank.


==Skills==
== Notes ==
''Further information about additional or recommended skills to pilot Thrasher for a specific or it's common role(s) can be written here.''
''You can add notes here.''


==Fitting==
== Patch History ==
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'''118.6 v.1.0 - Build: 1052658 - 28.06.16'''
| shipTypeID=16242
 
| fitName=PvE Mission Basic
*Repositioned the boosters on the Minmatar Destroyer Thrasher and variants.
| fitID=PvE-Mission-Basic
 
| low1name=Emergency Damage Control I
'''Hyperion 1.3 Released on Tuesday, September 2nd, 2014'''
| low1typeID=5841
 
| low2name=Gyrostabilizer I
*Fixed solar fins on all other variants of the Thrasher and Cyclone.
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| mid1name=Limited 1MN Afterburner I
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| drone4name=open
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| skills=
| showSKILLS=N
| notes=Pulse the Shield Booster to conserve cap.  
| showNOTES=N
| difficulty=0
| warsop=A
| warsopReason=
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| showTOC=Y
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fitName=AB Salvager|
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mid1name=1MN Afterburner I|
mid1typeID=439|
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mid3name=Cap Recharger I|
mid3typeID=1195|
low1name=Expanded Cargohold I|
low1typeID=1317|
low2name=Expanded Cargohold I|
low2typeID=1317|
rig1name=Small Salvage Tackle I|
rig1typeID=31083|
rig2name=Small Salvage Tackle I|
rig2typeID=31083|
rig3name=Small Salvage Tackle I|
rig3typeID=31083|
difficulty=0|
warsop=A|
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version=RET 1.0|
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skills=Minmatar Frigate III</li><li>Minmatar Destroyer I</li><li>Mechanics III</li><li>Survey III</li><li>Salvaging III</li><li>Afterburner I</li><li>Energy Grid Upgrades II</li><li>Hull Upgrades I</li><li>Jury Rigging III</li><li>Armor Rigging I|
notes=If you bookmark each pocket of a mission and complete the mission, the wrecks will be sent into normal space. This will allow you to warp to each pocket bookmark and salvage without letting the bonus timer run out. If you desire, swap the Afterburner for a MicroWarpdrive.}}{{ShipFitting|
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fitName=Shield Fleet Brawler|
fitID=Shield-Fleet-Brawler|
high1name=200mm AutoCannon II|
high1typeID=2889|
high2name=200mm AutoCannon II|
high2typeID=2889|
high3name=200mm AutoCannon II|
high3typeID=2889|
high4name=200mm AutoCannon II|
high4typeID=2889|
high5name=200mm AutoCannon II|
high5typeID=2889|
high6name=200mm AutoCannon II|
high6typeID=2889|
high7name=200mm AutoCannon II|
high7typeID=2889|
high8name=Rocket Launcher II|
high8typeID=10631|
mid1name=Medium Shield Extender II|
mid1typeID=3831|
mid2name=J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I|
mid2typeID=5439|
mid3name=Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I|
mid3typeID=5973|
low1name=Gyrostabilizer II|
low1typeID=519|
low2name=Damage Control II|
low2typeID=2048|
charge1name=Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S x1680|
charge1typeID=21924|
charge2name=open|
charge3name=open|
charge4name=open|
charge5name=open|
rig1name=Small Projectile Burst Aerator I|
rig1typeID=31668|
rig2name=Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I|
rig2typeID=31680|
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skills=|
notes=Great for Frig/dessie roams and solo work. Have faction EMP, Fusion, Phased Plasma and Barrage.}}{{ShipFitting
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| fitName=Gatecamp
| fitID=Gatecamp
| low1name=Gyrostabilizer II
| low1typeID=519
| low2name=Gyrostabilizer II
| low2typeID=519
| mid1name=Faint Warp Disruptor I
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| charge2name=Republic Fleet EMP S x1
| charge2typeID=21898
| high2name=280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S
| high2typeID=2977
| high3name=280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S
| high3typeID=2977
| high4name=280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S
| high4typeID=2977
| high5name=280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S
| high5typeID=2977
| high6name=280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S
| high6typeID=2977
| high7name=280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP S
| high7typeID=2977
| rig1name=Small Ancillary Current Router I
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| rig3name=Small Targeting System Subcontroller I
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| drone3name=open
| drone4name=open
| drone5name=open
| skills=
| showSKILLS=N
| notes=Get a bunch of your friends together in these, have eyes on the other side of the gate and pop flashies as they jump into you.</li><li>Downgrade the guns to 280mm Prototype Siege Cannon if you can't fit this, it's still just as effective.</li>
| showNOTES=N
| difficulty=2
| warsop=A
| warsopReason=
| version=PHOEBE 1.0
| showTOC=Y
| shipDNA=16242:519;2:5403;1:6001;1:1952;1:29011;1:2977;7:21898;1:31358;1:31322;2::
| fleetup=
}}


==Tactics==
'''Hyperion 1.2
A fantastic Level 1 Security Mission ship. To speed through missions as quickly as possible, linking the auto-cannons together in a group of 3/2/2 allows the simultaneous and near instant destruction of 3 Frigates at a time. Along with an afterburner or micro-warp drive will enable the pilot to quickly and efficiently work their way through getting the standings to move forward to Level 2 Security Missions.
Released on Thursday, August 28th, 2014'''


The Salvaging fit for a Thrasher will easily keep up with the wrecks popped from Level 1-3 missions, a great addition to a player's isk productivity. Having a salvaging Thrasher will significantly increase the isk earned from mission running.
*Fixed the invisible sails on the Thrasher and Cyclone


==Notes==
'''Retribution 1.0 Released on Tuesday, December 4, 2012'''
This vessel qualifies for the University [[Ship Replacement Program]], [[PYOS]], and [[BYOM]].
*Unchanged ship bonuses
*Slot layout: 8 H, 3 M, 2 L, 7 turrets, 1 launchers
*Fittings: 70 PWG, 170 CPU
*Defense (shields / armor / hull): 800 / 750 / 750
*Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second): 550 / 290 s / 1.89
*Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 270 / 2.8 / 1600000 / 4.2 s
*Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
*Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 27km / 550 / 6
*Sensor strength: 9 Ladar
*Signature radius: 56
 
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