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| shipid=17478
| shipimg=Retriever.jpg
|shipid=17478
| shipname=Retriever
|shipimg=Retriever.jpg
| class=Mining Barge
|shipname=Retriever
| grouping=Mining Barges
|caption=Retriever
| hulltype=Retriever Class
|class=Mining Barge
| faction=Outer Ring Excavations  
|grouping=ORE
| variations={{Ship|Mackinaw}}
|hulltype=Retriever Class
| tech=  
|faction=Outer Ring Excavations
 
|race=Gallente
| powergrid= 83 MW
|roles=unspecified
| cpu= 260 tf
|variations={{Ship|Mackinaw}}
| capacitor= 350 GJ
 
|ecmprio=0 <!-- 0 = none, 1 = low, 2 = normal, 3 = high, 4 = highest -->
| highs=2
| turrets=  
|powergrid=35 MW
| launchers=  
|cpu=235 tf
| mediums= 2
|capacitor=250 GJ
| lows=3
|highs=2
 
|turrets=0
| mass= 17,500,000 kg
|launchers=0
| volume=150,000
|mediums=1
 
|lows=3
| cargohold=450
| extraholdtype= Mining
|mass=20,000,000 kg
| extrahold= 27,500 m³
|volume=150,000 m&#179;
 
|cargohold=450 m&#179;
| dronebay= 50 m³
|extraholdtype=Ore
| bandwidth= 50 Mbit/sec
|extrahold=22,000 m&#179;
 
| quote= Every day I climb two mountains; a mountain of ore and a mountain of ISK.
|dronebay=25 m&#179;
| quote_attribution= Anonymous miner at a bar in Jita 4-4
|bandwidth=25 Mbit/sec
| info= The mining barge was designed by ORE to facilitate advancing the mining profession to a new level. Each barge was created to excel at a specific function, the Retriever's being storage. A massive ore hold allows the Retriever to operate for extended periods without requiring as much support as other barges.
 
|info=The mining barge was designed by ORE to facilitate advancing the mining profession to a new level. Each barge was created to excel at a specific function, the Retriever's being storage. Although it only has space to fit two mining or ice harvesting modules, a fast loading system allows those two module to do the work of three modules.
Mining barges are equipped with electronic subsystems specifically designed to accommodate Strip Mining and Ice Harvesting modules.
Mining barges are equipped with electronic subsystems specifically designed to accommodate Strip Mining and Ice Harvesting modules.
| bonuses=<b>Mining Barge bonuses (per skill level):</b><br>
|bonuses=<b>Traits:</b><br><b>Mining Barge skill bonus per level:</b><br>5% bonus to ore hold capacity<br><br><b>Role Bonus:</b><br>50% bonus to Strip Miner yield<br>33.33% reduction in Ice Harvester Duration and capacitor use
3% bonus to Strip Miner yield<br>
2% reduction in Ice and Gas Harvester duration<br>
|structurehp=2000 HP
5% bonus to ship ore hold capacity<br>
|shieldhp=2300 HP |shieldem=0 |shieldexp=50 |shieldkin=40 |shieldtherm=20
'''Role Bonus:'''<br>
|armorhp=1700 HP |armorem=60 |armorexp=10 |armorkin=25 |armortherm=35
10% bonus in Strip Miner yield<br>
12.5% reduction in Ice and Gas Harvester duration
|maxvelocity=80 m/s
|inertia=0.65875
|warpspeed=3 AU/s
|warptime=18.26 s
|targetrange=22.5 km
|sigradius=250 m
|maxlockedtargets=4
|sensortype=Magnetometric
|sensorvalue=9 points
|scanres=660 mm
|reqskills=*Mining Barge I<small>33m</small>
**Industry V<small>5d 22h 13m</small>
**Astrogeology III<small>13h 20m</small>
***Mining IV<small>1d 0h 21m</small>
***Science IV<small>20h 41m</small>
**Mining Frigate III<small>8h 53m</small>
|totaltraintime=8d 18h 3m
|forumlinks=
|wikireferences=
|externallinks=[http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Retriever Retriever on Eve Online Wiki]<br>
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| structurehp= 4,000 HP
 
| armorhp= 3,000 HP
| armorem=60
| armortherm=35
| armorkin=25
| armorexp=10
 
| shieldhp= 4,000 HP
| shieldem=
| shieldtherm=20
| shieldkin=40
| shieldexp=50
 
| maxvelocity= 125 m/sec
| inertia= 0.7
| warpspeed=3.5 AU/s
| warptime= 16.98 s
 
| targetrange= 40.00 km
| maxlockedtargets= 6
| sigradius= 200 m
| scanres=550 mm
| sensortype=Magnetometric
| sensorvalue=9 points
 
| reqskills=*{{RequiredSkill|Mining Barge|I}}
** {{RequiredSkill|Astrogeology|III}}
*** {{RequiredSkill|Science|IV}}
*** {{RequiredSkill|Mining|IV}}
** {{RequiredSkill|Industry|V}}
** {{RequiredSkill|Mining Frigate|III}}
*** {{RequiredSkill|Spaceship Command|I}}
| totaltraintime=8d 23h 25m 20s
 
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==Summary==
== Summary ==
Of the mining barges, the Retriever has the largest ore bay--jet-can size at 27,500m3--whilst being in the middle for hit points and yield, thus making the Retriever most useful for solo mining by reducing the frequency of trips to unload. Additionally, the Retriever can fit an adequate tank to survive a [https://doc-04-6c-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/securesc/ha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1/v9pdpmes0qerviban2cqac9ul25b8ta6/1393084800000/11635442794232655327/*/0BzjCcu1BF9zxa0FiT01wVm0yYlE?h=16653014193614665626 suicide gank]. cf. http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/p/why-was-i-ganked.html
Of the [[Mining Barges|mining barges]], the '''Retriever''' has the largest mining hold — Half a jet-can size at 27,500 {{m3}} base — whilst being in the middle for hit points and yield, thus making the Retriever most useful for solo mining by reducing the frequency of trips to unload. Because the Retriever has an ore/mining hold size bonus per level of Mining barge skill the actual size will vary between 28,875{{m3}} and 34,375{{m3}}. Additionally, the Retriever can fit an adequate tank to survive a [http://gdurl.com/jDkc suicide gank]. cf. http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/p/why-was-i-ganked.html
 
==Skills==
''Further information about additional or recommended skills to pilot Retriever for a specific or it's common role(s) can be written here.''


{{ShipFitting|
== Skills ==
ship=Retriever|
''Further information about additional or recommended skills to pilot Retriever for a specific or its common role(s) can be written here.''
shipTypeID=17478|
fitName=All Gank[ed] No Tank|
fitID=All-Gank-ed--No-Tank|
high1name=Modulated Strip Miner II|
high1typeID=17912|
high2name=Modulated Strip Miner II|
high2typeID=17912|
mid1name=Survey Scanner II|
mid1typeID=2333|
low1name=Mining Laser Upgrade II|
low1typeID=28576|
low2name=Mining Laser Upgrade II|
low2typeID=28576|
low3name=Mining Laser Upgrade II|
low3typeID=28576|
drone1name=Hobgoblin I x1|
drone1typeID=2454|
drone2name=Salvage Drone I x1|
drone2typeID=32787|
drone3name=Mining Drone II x3|
drone3typeID=10250|
drone4name=open|
drone5name=open|
charge1name=Veldspar Mining Crystal II x2|
charge1typeID=18618|
charge2name=open|
charge3name=open|
charge4name=open|
charge5name=open|
rig1name=Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I|
rig1typeID=4395|
rig2name=Medium Drone Mining Augmentor I|
rig2typeID=32043|
rig3name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender I|
rig3typeID=31790|
difficulty=2|
warsop=A|
warsopReason=|
version=RUBI 1.0|
shipDNA=17478:17912;2:2333;1:28576;3:4395;1:31790;1:32043;1:2454;1:10250;3:32787;1:18618;2::|
skills=|
notes=Has sufficient tank to survive a skilled solo ganker in 0.5 sec status or higher</li><li>ECM drones are used as a deterrent as well as a chance to break target lock</li><li>A singular Hobgoblin I will take care of hisec NPC pirates</li>}}


{{ShipFitting|
== Tactics ==
ship=Retriever|
* [[Suicide ganking]] is a popular play-style and miners are prime targets; cf. [https://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/p/why-was-i-ganked.html Why Was I Ganked?].
shipTypeID=17478|
** Fit enough [[tank]] to survive the ganker's DPS long enough for CONCORD to destroy the ganker; as of Rubicon 1.2, this means surviving a Catalyst's 728.2 DPS for 25 seconds—18,205 Void damage—in a 0.5 system
fitName=Hisec Tanked (T2)|
** Use and keep launched [[ECM]] drones
fitID=Hisec-Tanked--T2-|
high1name=Modulated Strip Miner II|
high1typeID=17912|
high2name=Modulated Strip Miner II|
high2typeID=17912|
mid1name=Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I|
mid1typeID=9632|
low1name=Mining Laser Upgrade II|
low1typeID=28576|
low2name=Mining Laser Upgrade II|
low2typeID=28576|
low3name=Damage Control II|
low3typeID=2048|
drone1name=Hornet EC-300 x3|
drone1typeID=23707|
drone2name=Hobgoblin I x1|
drone2typeID=2454|
drone3name=Salvage Drone I x1|
drone3typeID=32787|
drone4name=open|
drone5name=open|
charge1name=Veldspar Mining Crystal II x1|
charge1typeID=18618|
charge2name=open|
charge3name=open|
charge4name=open|
charge5name=open|
rig1name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender I|
rig1typeID=31790|
rig2name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender I|
rig2typeID=31790|
rig3name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender I|
rig3typeID=31790|
difficulty=1|
warsop=A|
warsopReason=|
version=RUBI 1.0|
shipDNA=17478:17912;2:9632;1:2048;1:28576;2:31790;3:2454;1:23707;3:32787;1:18618;1::|
skills=|
notes=Has sufficient tank to survive a skilled solo ganker in 0.5 sec status or higher</li><li>ECM drones are used as a deterrent as well as a chance to break target lock</li><li>A singular Hobgoblin I will take care of hisec NPC pirates</li>}}{{ShipFitting|
ship=Retriever|
shipTypeID=17478|
fitName=Hisec Tanked (T1)|
fitID=Hisec-Tanked--T1-|
high1name=Strip Miner I|
high1typeID=17482|
high2name=Strip Miner I|
high2typeID=17482|
mid1name=Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I|
mid1typeID=9632|
low1name=F85 Peripheral Damage System I|
low1typeID=5843|
low2name=200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I|
low2typeID=11349|
low3name=Mining Laser Upgrade I|
low3typeID=22542|
drone1name=Hornet EC-300 x3|
drone1typeID=23707|
drone2name=Hobgoblin I x1|
drone2typeID=2454|
drone3name=Salvage Drone I x1|
drone3typeID=32787|
drone4name=open|
drone5name=open|
rig1name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender I|
rig1typeID=31790|
rig2name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender I|
rig2typeID=31790|
rig3name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender I|
rig3typeID=31790|
difficulty=0|
warsop=A|
warsopReason=|
version=RUBI 1.0|
shipDNA=17478:17482;2:9632;1:5843;1:11349;1:22542;1:31790;3:2454;1:23707;3:32787;1::|
skills=|
notes=Has sufficient tank to survive a skilled solo ganker in 0.5 sec status or higher</li><li>ECM drones are used as a deterrent as well as a chance to break target lock</li><li>A singular Hobgoblin I will take care of hisec NPC pirates</li>}}
 
{{ShipFitting|
ship=Retriever|
shipTypeID=17478|
fitName=Hisec Ice Tanked (T2)|
fitID=Hisec-Ice-Tanked--T2-|
high1name=Ice Harvester II|
high1typeID=22229|
high2name=Ice Harvester II|
high2typeID=22229|
mid1name=Adaptive Invulnerability Field II|
mid1typeID=2281|
low1name=Damage Control II|
low1typeID=2048|
low2name=Ice Harvester Upgrade I|
low2typeID=22576|
low3name=Ice Harvester Upgrade I|
low3typeID=22576|
drone1name=Hornet EC-300 x3|
drone1typeID=23707|
drone2name=Hobgoblin I x1|
drone2typeID=2454|
drone3name=Salvage Drone I x1|
drone3typeID=32787|
drone4name=open|
drone5name=open|
rig1name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender I|
rig1typeID=31790|
rig2name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender I|
rig2typeID=31790|
rig3name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender I|
rig3typeID=31790|
difficulty=1|
warsop=A|
warsopReason=|
version=RUBI 1.0|
shipDNA=17478:22229;2:2281;1:2048;1:22576;2:31790;3:2454;1:23707;3:32787;1::|
skills=|
notes=Has sufficient tank to survive a skilled solo ganker in 0.5 sec status or higher</li><li>ECM drones are used as a deterrent as well as a chance to break target lock</li><li>A singular Hobgoblin I will take care of hisec NPC pirates</li>}}{{ShipFitting|
ship=Retriever|
shipTypeID=17478|
fitName=Hisec Ice Tanked (T1)|
fitID=Hisec-Ice-Tanked--T1-|
high1name=Ice Harvester I|
high1typeID=16278|
high2name=Ice Harvester I|
high2typeID=16278|
mid1name=Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I|
mid1typeID=9632|
low1name=F85 Peripheral Damage System I|
low1typeID=5843|
low2name=200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I|
low2typeID=11349|
low3name=Ice Harvester Upgrade I|
low3typeID=22576|
drone1name=Hornet EC-300 x3|
drone1typeID=23707|
drone2name=Hobgoblin I x1|
drone2typeID=2454|
drone3name=Salvage Drone I x1|
drone3typeID=32787|
drone4name=open|
drone5name=open|
rig1name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender I|
rig1typeID=31790|
rig2name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender I|
rig2typeID=31790|
rig3name=Medium Core Defense Field Extender I|
rig3typeID=31790|
difficulty=0|
warsop=A|
warsopReason=|
version=RUBI 1.0|
shipDNA=17478:16278;2:9632;1:5843;1:11349;1:22576;1:31790;3:2454;1:23707;3:32787;1::|
skills=|
notes=Has sufficient tank to survive a skilled solo ganker in 0.5 sec status or higher</li><li>ECM drones are used as a deterrent as well as a chance to break target lock</li><li>A singular Hobgoblin I will take care of hisec NPC pirates</li>}}
 
==Tactics==
* Suicide ganking is a popular play-style and miners are prime targets; cf. [http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/p/why-was-i-ganked.html Why Was I Ganked?] and [https://doc-04-6c-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/securesc/ha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1/v9pdpmes0qerviban2cqac9ul25b8ta6/1393084800000/11635442794232655327/*/0BzjCcu1BF9zxa0FiT01wVm0yYlE?h=16653014193614665626 Suicide Ganking 101 slides]
** Fit enough tank to survive the ganker's DPS long enough for CONCORD to destroy the ganker; as of Rubicon 1.2, this means surviving a Catalyst's 728.2 DPS for 25 seconds--18,205 Void damage--in a 0.5 system
** Use and keep launched ECM drones
*** This lets gankers know that you are expecting them and implies you are tanked for them; this is deterrence
*** This lets gankers know that you are expecting them and implies you are tanked for them; this is deterrence
*** This provides a chance to break the ganker's target lock for 20 seconds
*** This provides a chance to break the ganker's target lock for 20 seconds
*** One Hobgoblin I is sufficient to destroy NPC pirates, leaving room for four ECM drones or three ECM drones and a salvage drone
*** One Hobgoblin I is sufficient to destroy NPC pirates, leaving room for four ECM drones or three ECM drones and a salvage drone
*** Setting drones to aggressive lets them engage your aggressor without having to target-lock first [https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Controlling_drones_(Guide)#Aggressive CCP Drone Guide]
*** Setting drones to aggressive lets them engage your aggressor without having to target-lock first (see [[Using Drones#Drone behavior settings|Using Drones]])
** Fitting expensive meta modules may compel a duo gank due to their high-value loot chance
** Fitting expensive meta modules may compel a duo gank due to their high-value loot chance
** Trade hubs (especially Hek) and ice belt systems are popular hunting grounds for gankers
** Trade hubs (especially Hek) and ice belt systems are popular hunting grounds for gankers
* Mining in a fleet--even just two miners--provides boosts with [https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Leadership Leadership skill] and [https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Mining_Foreman Mining Foreman]
* Mine aligned to a celestial/station for faster warp-out
** Warping out when a non-mining ship enters your belt/anomaly is prudent
** Other mining ships may be scouts for gankers; it is good to know who your neighbours are and put known gankers on your contact list with terrible standing
* If attacked, overload your tank modules
* Mining in a fleet--even with just two miners--provides boosts with the skills {{Sk|Leadership}} and {{Sk|Mining Foreman}}
* It is impolite (and diminishes yield) to mine a rock someone else is already mining: when the rock runs out of ore, the first laser to cycle will get the last ore but the other lasers will continue to cycle (up to 3 minutes) and get nothing
* Due to how vulnerable and cumbersome the mining barges are, it is ill-advised to travel between stargates in lowsec in one, as they make for very juicy targets. Instead, a good idea is to transport your Retriever packaged in a hauler, which raises less (albeit still some) suspicion.
** A [[Badger]], even at base skills, has a capacity of 3,900{{m3}}, allowing it to carry a packaged mining frigate, barge, and even an exhumer, and still have enough cargo space for its modules, can perform the cloak trick, and when designed well, can align in under 6 seconds. Beware however, that when packaging a ship, all its [[rigs]] are destroyed, so either use cheap Tech I rigs or design your ship around not using them.
 
== Notes ==
Personally I love this ship. I took a few modules from my venture to decrease the time required to go to warp.
- Joran Tegan
 
== Patch History ==
{{Expansion past
|'''2024-11-26''' Version 22.02 Release 2024-11-26.1 [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-22-02 Patch Notes]
* Max Locked Targets improved from 5 to 6
}}


==Notes==
{{ShipsMatrix|expgroup= ore}}
This vessel qualifies for the University [[PYOS]], [[BYOM]], and [[Mining Loaner Fleet]] programs.


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